Proof of heaven

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And a pretty damn impressive wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_III. 16.18, you do realize there are five Eben Alexander's right? In just his own family. And you do realize there are 4,920 reviews of his book on Amazon.com and you pick out ONE and posted it here wihtout checking his wikipedia page or C.V.?

And, yes, I read the book, which I bet most of you did not. Can't judge as you are all preaching without putting in the time.

Thanks, PP.

[Anonymous]

Article: "Proof of Heaven" author now thoroughly debunked by science

http://news.yahoo.com/proof-heaven-author-now-thoroughly-debunked-science-131711093.html

[takoma]

Well, he may be going through hell now that the facts of his coma are coming out, but he still has the heavenly income from the book.

[Anonymous]

takoma wrote:Well, he may be going through hell now that the facts of his coma are coming out, but he still has the heavenly income from the book.

Well, religious books are a multi-billion dollar industry in the US. It doesn't take much to sell to people's fears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

takoma wrote:Well, he may be going through hell now that the facts of his coma are coming out, but he still has the heavenly income from the book.

Well, religious books are a multi-billion dollar industry in the US. It doesn't take much to sell to people's fears.

I have no idea about your dollar figure, so I won't quibble with that. However your second sentence is wrong. Do you you ever browse the religion section in a bookstore? How do you get that those books are selling to people's "fears". If anything it is the exact opposite. The largest category of religious books is in the subsection "Inspirational". I haven't read the book that this thread is focused on. It may very well be the same kind of inspirational book.

Are you anti-religion? Your post seems way cynical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

takoma wrote:Well, he may be going through hell now that the facts of his coma are coming out, but he still has the heavenly income from the book.

Well, religious books are a multi-billion dollar industry in the US. It doesn't take much to sell to people's fears.

I have no idea about your dollar figure, so I won't quibble with that. However your second sentence is wrong. Do you you ever browse the religion section in a bookstore? How do you get that those books are selling to people's "fears". If anything it is the exact opposite. The largest category of religious books is in the subsection "Inspirational". I haven't read the book that this thread is focused on. It may very well be the same kind of inspirational book.

Are you anti-religion? Your post seems way cynical.

I'm not anti religion, but I am anti critical thinking. What do you think compels people to buy "inspirational" books? Do you think the primary target for such books are the people who are already content, living joyfully, and feed good about themselves, their lives, and their futures? Or perhaps the target audience are those who feel unsure and anxious about their lives, themselves, and their futures?

[Anonymous]

Answer: both

[Anonymous]

I don't think the medical community, his peer, would view "inspirational" book writing favorably, being they're scientists and all. You risk losing your reputation.

You can't do both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Article: "Proof of Heaven" author now thoroughly debunked by science

http://news.yahoo.com/proof-heaven-author-now-thoroughly-debunked-science-131711093.html

Ouch, this really refutes his claims.

[Anonymous]

Proof of heaven is my wife.

Proof of hell is my mother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And a pretty damn impressive wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_III. 16.18, you do realize there are five Eben Alexander's right? In just his own family. And you do realize there are 4,920 reviews of his book on Amazon.com and you pick out ONE and posted it here wihtout checking his wikipedia page or C.V.?

And, yes, I read the book, which I bet most of you did not. Can't judge as you are all preaching without putting in the time.

Of course I know there are several Eben Alexander's and you would know that if you read the book because he talks about son, nephews, etc. in the book. And a wikipedia entry is not the same as pulling 4,820 reviews of the book and picking one. His c.v. is damn impressive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_(author) and there's not much else that can be said about someone with a c.v. like that except sour grapes from his fellow practitioners. All doctors - and I mean ALL doctors - have had their share of malpractice claims. That's why they have to spend so much money on malpractice insurance. I loved the book and believed his story. He was very careful not to put religious names on what was happening to him (is this "hell"; is this "purgatory", etc.). He never claims one religion over all is right. Having had a NDE that was similar but didn't last as long as Eben's did, I completely agree with his experierence. I think the book is ecumenical and sent it to a no. of friends from all walks of life. And why was this thread reactivated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And a pretty damn impressive wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_III. 16.18, you do realize there are five Eben Alexander's right? In just his own family. And you do realize there are 4,920 reviews of his book on Amazon.com and you pick out ONE and posted it here wihtout checking his wikipedia page or C.V.?

And, yes, I read the book, which I bet most of you did not. Can't judge as you are all preaching without putting in the time.

Of course I know there are several Eben Alexander's and you would know that if you read the book because he talks about son, nephews, etc. in the book. And a wikipedia entry is not the same as pulling 4,820 reviews of the book and picking one. His c.v. is damn impressive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_(author) and there's not much else that can be said about someone with a c.v. like that except sour grapes from his fellow practitioners. All doctors - and I mean ALL doctors - have had their share of malpractice claims. That's why they have to spend so much money on malpractice insurance. I loved the book and believed his story. He was very careful not to put religious names on what was happening to him (is this "hell"; is this "purgatory", etc.). He never claims one religion over all is right. Having had a NDE that was similar but didn't last as long as Eben's did, I completely agree with his experierence. I think the book is ecumenical and sent it to a no. of friends from all walks of life. And why was this thread reactivated?

Doctors don't carry malpractice insurance because they've "had their share of malpractice claims". They carry malpractice insurance because of the potential for malpractice claims.

Love the initial paragraph of the yahoo link though: "A book called Proof of Heaven is bound to provoke eye rolls, but its author, Eben Alexander, had space...on shows like of Fox & Friends to detail his claims."

Wow. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Bottom line: believers are desperate for confirmation of their beliefs (not sure why; "faith" should be sufficient) so they fall for all manner of hoaxes and scams.

This is the difference between believers and non-believers: if some credible peer-reviewed science journal presented a compelling case that some place like Heaven existed tomorrow, I'd be as happy as the next person. I have no emotional stake in the disproving of anyone's religious mythos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He claims (and he'd studied and worked on the brain all his life as a neurosurgeon) that his brain was shut down and it was impossible for him to have hallucinations.

Do you see how stupid you look now? You might want to think quite hard about your gullibility and what you can do to change it.

[Anonymous]

My mom had a beautiful smile on her face as she passed. She had not smiled for weeks.