DP. Looking up How To’s is totally different than getting an estimate, looking on line and seeing such a wide range it’s useless. |
Wow! Gross. Very insensitive. Millions of people lost family members. |
Agree. At the think tank inside to work at we’d discuss this all the time the last 10 years. The public doesn’t care about expert opinions or books or publishings. They’d rather get their 24/7 new cycle from bloggers and OpEds. |
I didn’t vax. I’ve never had Covid |
You were lied to. |
This |
Worldwide about 7 million deaths so far, global pop 8.3 billion. 0.08% It wasn't just old people. In the US 70,000 people under age 50 died between 2020 and 2023. Over 200,000 people age 50 to 64--under retirement age and certainly including people who still had children at home. NYC had a Covid death rate 50% higher than Los Angeles. NYC was hit hard earlier than Los Angeles, more lower SES people living in crowded conditions. Virus was already spreading when lockdown orders were issued. LA had more time to prepare sufficient safety supplies. South Dakota, where Noem refused to issue lockdowns or mask orders, had a death rate 30% higher than North Dakota, which did both. There would have been more deaths without the "over-reaction." |
That's part of it. Endless war. Accepting torture, ever increasing surveillance of domestic population, people locked up without due process for decades in Guantanamo. Creation of DHS. The Tea Party, which evolved into the monstrosity of MAGA. The Great Recession. It's curious, though, that people should even assume we're entitled to live in a world without any widespread political, economic, or public health disasters anyway. The century before included the Spanish flu, the Great Depression, WWII (WWI didn't last all that long for the US). |
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If you don't test, you may never know. For most, COVID is no big deal. |
Exactly what safety supplies did LA manage to acquire in time? I lived through the pandemic, and no one had the supplies that would help, like masks for high risk individuals. NYC had an earlier onset before we had any precautions in place. The mayor moved COVID patients to nursing homes as a quarantine measure. You know, one of the more vulnerable, but more expensive, populations in society. Kill two birds with one stone, amiright? Remember, these decisions were made by the best and brightest that the government has to offer when it comes to policy. |
Yes every day many people die in earth. Most are old, some are middle aged, same young. Freak accidents, traffic accidents, chronic health problems, a severe acute health problem. |
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I won't wade into the debate on COVID restrictions beyond observing that social media has amplified political polarization and made debates about all sorts of issues super dysfunctional by pushing the most extreme views on both sides and making it seem like those views are more widespread than they really are.
Beyond that, I think COVID just accelerated trends that had already started. I am in my early 40s and remember hearing as a kid in the 90s that we were "at the end of history." The past few decades have shown how delusional that idea was. The U.S. was never going to maintain its post-WWII position as the sole world superpower forever. This isn't the end of the world, although it will seem that way for many in the U.S. |
| Covid accelerated the societal trends underway but it also destroyed a tremendous amount of community social trust and goodwill, or what was left of it. We are still living with the consequences and that kind of damage and destruction will take a long time to fix. For some people Covid was a genuine threat and wanted officials to do anything, even suspending civil liberties and accepting severe restrictions on information and access in the name of safety, after all, lives are at stake. For others, it was blatantly clear officials were lying, withholding truth, hiding the origin of covid, too quick to resort to censorship in the name of combating misinformation etc cetera, too quick to enact a one size fits all approach despite that the vast majority were never in danger. Then overlay on top of it that many people's views of covid were influenced by the culture wars and political allegiances, bogging themselves down into cherry picking data to fit their narratives. Once that damage was done, in a sense it is irreparable. It exposed enormous fault lines between the two Americas and will probably never be forgiven in our lifetimes. |
To be sensitive to these endangered drivers, I am calling for a nationwide maximum speed limit of 25 mph. People are losing family members to traffic fatalities. The only thing that is killing these people is lax government policies. |