I hate how s*** the world became after Covid

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Anonymous wrote:We made more in the market than we have lost to inflation. And people are still spending like there’s no tomorrow.


Good for you boomer. I was a new grad with almost nothing in the market when Covid happened


DP. Not a Boomer. Based on your post, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person! I love this for you. Your whiny, negative attitude and lack of resiliency tells me you were always going to be poor and a loser.

COVID is hardly the worst or only bad thing that has happened, you just lack a knowledge of history and have a deep sense of entitlement. The Holocaust,WWI, WWII, Vietnam, the crash 1929…


Your post is 10x more whiney and entitled than the short and pertinent comment from pp so maybe take a good look in a mirror.


Explain how it’s whiny and entitled? Life has always been hard. I don’t expect anything different. You on the other hand…weak.
Life hasn't always been as competitive as it is now. It's a by product of the easy access to information.

Do you remember when you might know a driving shortcut that no other cars used? Now everyone knows. Do you remember when you might know of a great sale, show up a little late but still find your size? Now everyone goes first day. Do you remember when you could book a great beach house in May, lol good luck with that now.

It's not just those. Back in the day only the people who really valued something were in on the best info about it. Now everyone who is vaguely interested has the same best inside tips. The result is less overall happiness because for everyone.


Not in my industry.

This are low value examples. Google search results from scraping the internet are the best source of info to make decisions? Lol

We were recently told we needed new brake pads and I knew our minivan got all four new for $600. So when the guy said $500 for two rear ones on a much smaller vehicle I laughed

Meanwhile my city boy husband google AI searched it and it said it can cost $400-1000 so sounds good! No mention of car size, metro area, whatever.

Yeah! Fully informed! Got a range with five standard deviations from reality, here’s my money.
What did end up paying for the rear brake service you needed?

On car service, checking the internet has been great for me because I know nothing to begin with. So when they show me a list of things that need to be fixed, I can actually check what it means.


DP. Looking up How To’s is totally different than getting an estimate, looking on line and seeing such a wide range it’s useless.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does everything have to be so expensive now just because of an illness that killed like 0.1% of the population (mostly old/fat/unhealthy people too, aka weren’t going to be around much longer anyway). The world’s response to COVID was so dumb and such an unnecessary overreaction. Now literally everything in society is worse

Wow! Gross. Very insensitive. Millions of people lost family members.
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Anonymous wrote:We made more in the market than we have lost to inflation. And people are still spending like there’s no tomorrow.


Good for you boomer. I was a new grad with almost nothing in the market when Covid happened


DP. Not a Boomer. Based on your post, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person! I love this for you. Your whiny, negative attitude and lack of resiliency tells me you were always going to be poor and a loser.

COVID is hardly the worst or only bad thing that has happened, you just lack a knowledge of history and have a deep sense of entitlement. The Holocaust,WWI, WWII, Vietnam, the crash 1929…


Your post is 10x more whiney and entitled than the short and pertinent comment from pp so maybe take a good look in a mirror.


Explain how it’s whiny and entitled? Life has always been hard. I don’t expect anything different. You on the other hand…weak.
Life hasn't always been as competitive as it is now. It's a by product of the easy access to information.

Do you remember when you might know a driving shortcut that no other cars used? Now everyone knows. Do you remember when you might know of a great sale, show up a little late but still find your size? Now everyone goes first day. Do you remember when you could book a great beach house in May, lol good luck with that now.

It's not just those. Back in the day only the people who really valued something were in on the best info about it. Now everyone who is vaguely interested has the same best inside tips. The result is less overall happiness because for everyone.


This is true, and obviously due to the democratization of information via technology. But it also touches on something else that really bothers me about now versus maybe 15 years ago.

People are more confident in their own knowledge now. You might think that sounds great! I thought so too, initially. People have access to so much more information that they can arm themselves with, and that makes them approach lots of different situations with more confidence and security, especially when they are interacting with experts in a field outside their own -- doctors, teachers, therapists, chefs, etc. So you can be more educated going into an appointment with a medical specialist, or talking to your kid's 2nd grade teacher. Sounds good, right?

The problem is that people only have a little bit of knowledge, often that knowledge is not very good, and their confidence is unmerited. And this creates all kinds of problems. People don't listen to each other anymore, including listening to actual experts who are trying to give them important information. They assume they must know better. This contributes to the breakdown of trust in institutions, because when you are convinced you know everything, it's very easy to take what is actually your tiny amount of knowledge and cast doubt over institutions that actually have a ton of knowledge. So universities are a con, the CDC are liars, the hospital is just out to swindle you, your actual therapist doesn't know as much as your TikTok therapist, and so on. If everyone is an expert, then no one is.

I have also just gotten exhausted by how everyone talks now, because so many people think they are experts. We're a country of reply guys now -- "Well, actually..." It makes it hard to connect with people, because you're so often being lectured at or contradicted by them instead. It's so important for people to be viewed as "in the know." But real communication requires people to believe they don't know anything, and be willing to listen and learn. This feels increasingly rare. A lot of places I go now -- work, book club, exercise class, PTO meetings -- it's just a bunch of know-it-alls trying to top each other. Maybe this problem is worse in DC than it is other places (probably?) but I miss when people used to not know things and be okay with it.


Agree.

At the think tank inside to work at we’d discuss this all the time the last 10 years.

The public doesn’t care about expert opinions or books or publishings. They’d rather get their 24/7 new cycle from bloggers and OpEds.
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Anonymous wrote:I dunno man. Covid brain damage is real. More so with multiple infections 🤯


Brain damage, damage to your heart and blood vessels. People that I know that had a few infections of covid all had blood clots and stokes and are only in their 40s/very early 50s this isn't normal.


Funny how it’s all blamed on Covid and not the proposed solution to Covid…which didn’t work anyway


People who weren't vaxxed likely have more covid cases including the OG one and Delta. It's a vasular disease not the sniffles.


I didn’t vax. I’ve never had Covid
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Anonymous wrote:Shut up and stop whining. At least you’re still alive.


All it did was pull forward some deaths of SOME chronically unhealthy people. Plus jack up stimulus spending, stop educating kids for 12-24 mos, and create violence amongst people with nothing to do.


You fools conveniently forget about the OG covid in 2020. Nick Cordero was a DANCER and died after 95 days and an amputation. He wasn't obese, unfit. Children died on ventilators. Covid is a vascular disease.


And it’s still causing strokes in people who were fit, healthy, and young before they caught COVID multiple times. Colds don’t do that.


The flu can.


Remember how we were told there were negligible flu cases the year of Covid? And people believed that?


The closures helped knock down flu cases, but that was not sustainable. Check out how much money was dumped into the economy to keep things going,


You were lied to.
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Anonymous wrote:The way we are now was not because of Covid. A much worse sickness started before that. And you became infected with it. We can tell by the callous way you describe people. Don't blame our cesspool country on Covid. Oh no.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does everything have to be so expensive now just because of an illness that killed like 0.1% of the population (mostly old/fat/unhealthy people too, aka weren’t going to be around much longer anyway). The world’s response to COVID was so dumb and such an unnecessary overreaction. Now literally everything in society is worse


It’s actually much less than that. More like 0.001%.


Worldwide about 7 million deaths so far, global pop 8.3 billion.
0.08%

It wasn't just old people. In the US 70,000 people under age 50 died between 2020 and 2023. Over 200,000 people age 50 to 64--under retirement age and certainly including people who still had children at home.

NYC had a Covid death rate 50% higher than Los Angeles. NYC was hit hard earlier than Los Angeles, more lower SES people living in crowded conditions. Virus was already spreading when lockdown orders were issued. LA had more time to prepare sufficient safety supplies.

South Dakota, where Noem refused to issue lockdowns or mask orders, had a death rate 30% higher than North Dakota, which did both.

There would have been more deaths without the "over-reaction."
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Anonymous wrote:The downward spiral started after 9/11, not Covid


This is the truth, 100%, whether anyone wants to hear it or not is another story.

WDYM?


That's part of it. Endless war. Accepting torture, ever increasing surveillance of domestic population, people locked up without due process for decades in Guantanamo. Creation of DHS. The Tea Party, which evolved into the monstrosity of MAGA. The Great Recession.

It's curious, though, that people should even assume we're entitled to live in a world without any widespread political, economic, or public health disasters anyway. The century before included the Spanish flu, the Great Depression, WWII (WWI didn't last all that long for the US).

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Anonymous wrote:The downward spiral started after 9/11, not Covid


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Anonymous wrote:I dunno man. Covid brain damage is real. More so with multiple infections 🤯


Brain damage, damage to your heart and blood vessels. People that I know that had a few infections of covid all had blood clots and stokes and are only in their 40s/very early 50s this isn't normal.


Funny how it’s all blamed on Covid and not the proposed solution to Covid…which didn’t work anyway


People who weren't vaxxed likely have more covid cases including the OG one and Delta. It's a vasular disease not the sniffles.


I didn’t vax. I’ve never had Covid


If you don't test, you may never know. For most, COVID is no big deal.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does everything have to be so expensive now just because of an illness that killed like 0.1% of the population (mostly old/fat/unhealthy people too, aka weren’t going to be around much longer anyway). The world’s response to COVID was so dumb and such an unnecessary overreaction. Now literally everything in society is worse


It’s actually much less than that. More like 0.001%.


Worldwide about 7 million deaths so far, global pop 8.3 billion.
0.08%

It wasn't just old people. In the US 70,000 people under age 50 died between 2020 and 2023. Over 200,000 people age 50 to 64--under retirement age and certainly including people who still had children at home.

NYC had a Covid death rate 50% higher than Los Angeles. NYC was hit hard earlier than Los Angeles, more lower SES people living in crowded conditions. Virus was already spreading when lockdown orders were issued. LA had more time to prepare sufficient safety supplies.

South Dakota, where Noem refused to issue lockdowns or mask orders, had a death rate 30% higher than North Dakota, which did both.

There would have been more deaths without the "over-reaction."


Exactly what safety supplies did LA manage to acquire in time? I lived through the pandemic, and no one had the supplies that would help, like masks for high risk individuals. NYC had an earlier onset before we had any precautions in place. The mayor moved COVID patients to nursing homes as a quarantine measure. You know, one of the more vulnerable, but more expensive, populations in society. Kill two birds with one stone, amiright? Remember, these decisions were made by the best and brightest that the government has to offer when it comes to policy.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does everything have to be so expensive now just because of an illness that killed like 0.1% of the population (mostly old/fat/unhealthy people too, aka weren’t going to be around much longer anyway). The world’s response to COVID was so dumb and such an unnecessary overreaction. Now literally everything in society is worse

Wow! Gross. Very insensitive. Millions of people lost family members.


Yes every day many people die in earth. Most are old, some are middle aged, same young.
Freak accidents, traffic accidents, chronic health problems, a severe acute health problem.
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I won't wade into the debate on COVID restrictions beyond observing that social media has amplified political polarization and made debates about all sorts of issues super dysfunctional by pushing the most extreme views on both sides and making it seem like those views are more widespread than they really are.

Beyond that, I think COVID just accelerated trends that had already started. I am in my early 40s and remember hearing as a kid in the 90s that we were "at the end of history." The past few decades have shown how delusional that idea was. The U.S. was never going to maintain its post-WWII position as the sole world superpower forever. This isn't the end of the world, although it will seem that way for many in the U.S.
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Covid accelerated the societal trends underway but it also destroyed a tremendous amount of community social trust and goodwill, or what was left of it. We are still living with the consequences and that kind of damage and destruction will take a long time to fix. For some people Covid was a genuine threat and wanted officials to do anything, even suspending civil liberties and accepting severe restrictions on information and access in the name of safety, after all, lives are at stake. For others, it was blatantly clear officials were lying, withholding truth, hiding the origin of covid, too quick to resort to censorship in the name of combating misinformation etc cetera, too quick to enact a one size fits all approach despite that the vast majority were never in danger. Then overlay on top of it that many people's views of covid were influenced by the culture wars and political allegiances, bogging themselves down into cherry picking data to fit their narratives. Once that damage was done, in a sense it is irreparable. It exposed enormous fault lines between the two Americas and will probably never be forgiven in our lifetimes.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does everything have to be so expensive now just because of an illness that killed like 0.1% of the population (mostly old/fat/unhealthy people too, aka weren’t going to be around much longer anyway). The world’s response to COVID was so dumb and such an unnecessary overreaction. Now literally everything in society is worse

Wow! Gross. Very insensitive. Millions of people lost family members.


Yes every day many people die in earth. Most are old, some are middle aged, same young.
Freak accidents, traffic accidents, chronic health problems, a severe acute health problem.


To be sensitive to these endangered drivers, I am calling for a nationwide maximum speed limit of 25 mph. People are losing family members to traffic fatalities. The only thing that is killing these people is lax government policies.
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