reality for 1500 SAT (no SLAC)

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

No

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Anonymous wrote:DC was at an ID camp at WashU and was told by the coach not to submit a lower than 1530 SAT. They want the kids with super high SAT’s.

Yes, my DC was being actively recruited by Wash U and pre-screened by admissions and the message was that DC needed to get above 1500 (score was 1480, grades were very high, 11 APs with 4s and 5s).

In the tours, WUSTL AO openly tell the room not to submit below 1500/34. They don't hide it. This was in the information session for everyone (not athletes).

WashU is pretty interesting when it comes to recruited athletes and SAT scores. Since they are letting recruits in via their sport it appears that they don't want scores which could impact the schools numbers. As I mentioned in an earlier post the Coach recruiting my kid said that a 780M wasn't "interesting" but because she also had a 780V they wanted the score submitted because that was "interesting". Not hard to see what they are doing.

I don't get it. Don't most schools who are TO only want kids to submit them if they are very high so that it skews their 25%/50%/75% test scores for admitted students? What is it you see WashU doing that is any different from what is known: only submit your test score to a TO school if it really helps.

So they’d rather admit a 1250 TO than someone with a solid 1450?

The reality is that they are indifferent between the two.

Until they’ve spent enough on remedial classes I guess?

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Anonymous wrote:Echoing the poster who encouraged to add Pitt.

My kid (1560 SAT) wanted mid to large public, and had Pitt on her list as a safety/target. After visiting, she realized it was the most exciting place to be. She's been super happy there. Your kid would likely get honors program, and their honors program is nice (great housing, smaller community, etc).

Pitt is a great option.

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

They would prefer to have 40% of applicants submit and show a 1530 - 1580 range, rather than have 55% submit and show a 1500 - 1550 range.

Because most people will take a quick glance at the score range in US News and make assumptions based on that.

Jeez so my 1520 well rounded, high rigor, 4 and 5 AP kid with strong arts ECs should have gone TO to Vandy? Ridiculous. But I see what you’re saying.

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

They would prefer to have 40% of applicants submit and show a 1530 - 1580 range, rather than have 55% submit and show a 1500 - 1550 range.

Because most people will take a quick glance at the score range in US News and make assumptions based on that.

Jeez so my 1520 well rounded, high rigor, 4 and 5 AP kid with strong arts ECs should have gone TO to Vandy? Ridiculous. But I see what you’re saying.

Why would you want to send your kid to such a cheater of a school, tbh?

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

They would prefer to have 40% of applicants submit and show a 1530 - 1580 range, rather than have 55% submit and show a 1500 - 1550 range.

Because most people will take a quick glance at the score range in US News and make assumptions based on that.

Jeez so my 1520 well rounded, high rigor, 4 and 5 AP kid with strong arts ECs should have gone TO to Vandy? Ridiculous. But I see what you’re saying.

Why would you want to send your kid to such a cheater of a school, tbh?

Unfortunately, this logic would disqualify all TO schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Without amazing ECs, Penn and Duke are hopeless. The SAT isn't the issue.

Not from our private school in NJ

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Anonymous wrote:Echoing the poster who encouraged to add Pitt.

My kid (1560 SAT) wanted mid to large public, and had Pitt on her list as a safety/target. After visiting, she realized it was the most exciting place to be. She's been super happy there. Your kid would likely get honors program, and their honors program is nice (great housing, smaller community, etc).

Pitt is a great option.

Not with over 1500.

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

They would prefer to have 40% of applicants submit and show a 1530 - 1580 range, rather than have 55% submit and show a 1500 - 1550 range.

Because most people will take a quick glance at the score range in US News and make assumptions based on that.

Jeez so my 1520 well rounded, high rigor, 4 and 5 AP kid with strong arts ECs should have gone TO to Vandy? Ridiculous. But I see what you’re saying.

Why would you want to send your kid to such a cheater of a school, tbh?

I would give test required schools brownie points, as they’re more honest at least. Among the test optional schools, those who recommend kids to only submit 1500+ scores at the least honest.

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Anonymous wrote:They are trying to skew their SAT stats ever higher, that's all.

But people are not dumb. When you have 40-50% test optional, everybody knows the median is lower than 1400 and the 25th percentile is below 1300, no?

They would prefer to have 40% of applicants submit and show a 1530 - 1580 range, rather than have 55% submit and show a 1500 - 1550 range.

Because most people will take a quick glance at the score range in US News and make assumptions based on that.

Jeez so my 1520 well rounded, high rigor, 4 and 5 AP kid with strong arts ECs should have gone TO to Vandy? Ridiculous. But I see what you’re saying.

Why would you want to send your kid to such a cheater of a school, tbh?

I think she would have liked Vandy. Sigh.