NYT Headline “Did Women Ruin the Workplace?”

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Anonymous wrote:Women in the workplace is a way for the government to tax the same household twice. It also drove wages down when more women entered the workforce although that may have to do with sexism. When women started going to college in higher numbers than men, suddenly having a bachelors didn’t mean a great salary.

Wages stagnated because the link between productivity and compensation was severed in the 1970s, so that economic gains flowed to corporate profits and top earners, not workers. Automation and globalization also contributed. It has nothing to do with women diluting the workforce.

“Taxing the same household twice” is bad math. Wages get taxed no matter who makes them. In fact, with the same HHI divided between two incomes in lower tax brackets vs. one income in a higher bracket, a household would pay less.

Yes, this.

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Did the New York Times ruin journalism?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article. Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women. Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal. Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.

I think the answer is that men should do more. I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either.

Yeah, we had that dynamic. For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house. I realized my wife didn't care. In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods. She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids. This is annoying. I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article. Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women. Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal. Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.

I think the answer is that men should do more. I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either.

Yeah, we had that dynamic. For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house. I realized my wife didn't care. In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods. She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids. This is annoying. I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee.

So, I'm supposed to buy and shop for everything in the house and pay every bill. Towels to food?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article. Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women. Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal. Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.

I think the answer is that men should do more. I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either.

Yeah, we had that dynamic. For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house. I realized my wife didn't care. In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods. She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids. This is annoying. I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee.

OMG PP, stop. You are ridiculous. Birthing is not a house skill, and while it can take a toll on the body, it's mostly temporary.

His wife just sounds lazy. But, let's be real, statistically, women do most of the house work and child care even as she also works FT.

Not enough men are keeping up with women. We carry and birth the kids; we work; we clean the house; we take care of the children; we cook. Men might not be able to birth the children but they can do everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article. Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women. Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal. Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.

I think the answer is that men should do more. I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either.

Yeah, we had that dynamic. For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house. I realized my wife didn't care. In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods. She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids. This is annoying. I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee.

OMG PP, stop. You are ridiculous. Birthing is not a house skill, and while it can take a toll on the body, it's mostly temporary.

His wife just sounds lazy. But, let's be real, statistically, women do most of the house work and child care even as she also works FT.

Not enough men are keeping up with women. We carry and birth the kids; we work; we clean the house; we take care of the children; we cook. Men might not be able to birth the children but they can do everything else.

25-30% of women who birth children suffer LIFELONG pelvic floor issues in the aftermath including chronic pain, inability to enjoy intercourse, repeat organ prolapse, urinary and fecal incontinence, etc.

How nice for you that you’re in the 70-75% who don’t, but it’s not nothing when that many women are suffering these issues for DECADES.

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We have a woman that had a kid then went in leave for 6 months, came back for 6 months and is going out again because she is having a other kid. Who knows when she will be back a full year.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the New York Times ruin journalism?

Apparently they are working on it now.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the New York Times ruin journalism?

Apparently they are working on it now.

Doing their part to launder terrible alt-right ideas into the mainstream.

Next up: “Broads: What’s Their Problem?” and “Are Women Human?”

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Yes, it's all the women's fault. Definitely blame women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the article. Obviously, women should be treated as equals, etc, but I think it is worth asking questions about whether many of feminism's achievements have actually improved things for women. Arguably, women now have to do everything a man has to do, in addition to everything that women do, and it doesn't seem like this is a good deal. Men are miserable, women report the lowest levels of happiness in decades, and yet we can't question whether this is all working for us.

I think the answer is that men should do more. I mean, people can decide what’s best for them, but if you have two people working then you can’t rely on one of them for most other tasks, too.

It's not even just the tasks. It's all the planning and organizing that they somehow can't see and do not help with. My husband and I split most chores evenly. For example, we switch off weeks of meal planning and cooking meals. So it's split 50:50, and he is quite proud of himself for this. But he seems to think a magical elf manages the pantry and restocks to cooking oil and seasonings, who cleans out the fridge and scrubs the shelves, who wipes down the counters and mops the floor, etc. But if you ask him, he does half the work of feeding our family.

Stop patting yourself on the back. He probably does things that you don't even notice or register either.

Yeah, we had that dynamic. For a while I used to do all kinds of things around the house. I realized my wife didn't care. In the middle of remodeling the bathroom, "But there are dishes to do, take my trash out."

I think she realizes this was a mistake now, because I just quit doing those things.

She also has very poor "house skills", like even making a bed or making sure the house has good towels or other home goods. She's realized how annoying that is also and has gotten somewhat better at that.

She also realized she doesn't want a career and only works a part time job, mostly show she can nominally pay for preschool, so she doesn't have to watch the kids. This is annoying. I mean my income alone keeps in the middle class, but we could be doing much better, but now she expects me to run the kids around in addition to making my job much more of a priority.

Your post drips with condescension. Truly indicates what you feel in your head. So...your wife is poor at "house skills"....how good are you at birthing kids? Or being pregnant? I would consider those house skills. Either way, I'm glad that she "has gotten somewhat better at that". I hope you trained her how to fold the sheets just so. I am glad you are not my husband because then I would have been a divorcee.

OMG PP, stop. You are ridiculous. Birthing is not a house skill, and while it can take a toll on the body, it's mostly temporary.

His wife just sounds lazy. But, let's be real, statistically, women do most of the house work and child care even as she also works FT.

Not enough men are keeping up with women. We carry and birth the kids; we work; we clean the house; we take care of the children; we cook. Men might not be able to birth the children but they can do everything else.

25-30% of women who birth children suffer LIFELONG pelvic floor issues in the aftermath including chronic pain, inability to enjoy intercourse, repeat organ prolapse, urinary and fecal incontinence, etc.

How nice for you that you’re in the 70-75% who don’t, but it’s not nothing when that many women are suffering these issues for DECADES.

While that is awful, the majority of women birth children, and then go on to do house chores, work FT, cook and take are of the kids.

But, again, men need to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a woman that had a kid then went in leave for 6 months, came back for 6 months and is going out again because she is having a other kid. Who knows when she will be back a full year.

But, I thought MAGA wanted women to have more kids, and have them younger.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's all the women's fault. Definitely blame women.

NPR piece also kind of blamed women for falling fertility.



https://www.npr.org/2025/10/27/nx-s1-5576355/population-babies-capitalism

They course corrected and said men and society, but it’s clear that the right wants to roll back women’s role in society on all fronts to “save humanity “.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a woman that had a kid then went in leave for 6 months, came back for 6 months and is going out again because she is having a other kid. Who knows when she will be back a full year.

But, I thought MAGA wanted women to have more kids, and have them younger.

Yeah MAGA doesn’t want women to work.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a woman that had a kid then went in leave for 6 months, came back for 6 months and is going out again because she is having a other kid. Who knows when she will be back a full year.

Any working man who has children does not get to complain about working women taking maternity leave.