Reinstall speed cameras in Kensington now!

[Anonymous]

Heartbreaking
https://www.thebanner.com/community/local-news/james-evert-anderson-kensington-car-accident-death-road-safety-AVH2DW7ZGNC63CEQ3MAT5UG3AI/?edition=montgomery&utm_content=buffer9d5cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=threads&utm_campaign=buffer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From MoCo's own Vision Zero report (PDF page 18):

"Thirty-six percent of pedestrians and cyclists
were at fault in severe and fatal collisions. When
pedestrians are at fault, the top contributing
circumstances were illegally in roadway, failed to
give time and attention, clothing not visible, and
under the influence of alcohol."

Let's not blame only drivers.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/Vision_Zero_Data_Analysis.pdf

Despite the stupid concept that is contributory negligence, fault is not an “either / or”. Pedestrian may indeed have been jaywalking and the driver may be speeding. A jaywalking pedestrian may have been hit but would not have been killed without the excess speed.

Jaywalking is kind of a gentle way to describe running across Georgia or Connecticut Avenue in dark clothes at night, but there have been a number of people killed doing this. No need to be speeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From MoCo's own Vision Zero report (PDF page 18):

"Thirty-six percent of pedestrians and cyclists
were at fault in severe and fatal collisions. When
pedestrians are at fault, the top contributing
circumstances were illegally in roadway, failed to
give time and attention, clothing not visible, and
under the influence of alcohol."

Let's not blame only drivers.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/Vision_Zero_Data_Analysis.pdf

Despite the stupid concept that is contributory negligence, fault is not an “either / or”. Pedestrian may indeed have been jaywalking and the driver may be speeding. A jaywalking pedestrian may have been hit but would not have been killed without the excess speed.

Jaywalking is kind of a gentle way to describe running across Georgia or Connecticut Avenue in dark clothes at night, but there have been a number of people killed doing this. No need to be speeding.

If you live in the area you know that there are long stretches without crosswalks. These are not pedestrian friendly communities yet we are building housing based on the assumption not everyone is driving. So how do you expect people to get around? The pedestrian infrastructure on Georgia Ave in particular but also Connecticut and University is disgraceful.

[Anonymous]

08:33's article that was pasted here got deleted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From MoCo's own Vision Zero report (PDF page 18):

"Thirty-six percent of pedestrians and cyclists
were at fault in severe and fatal collisions. When
pedestrians are at fault, the top contributing
circumstances were illegally in roadway, failed to
give time and attention, clothing not visible, and
under the influence of alcohol."

Let's not blame only drivers.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/Vision_Zero_Data_Analysis.pdf

Despite the stupid concept that is contributory negligence, fault is not an “either / or”. Pedestrian may indeed have been jaywalking and the driver may be speeding. A jaywalking pedestrian may have been hit but would not have been killed without the excess speed.

Jaywalking is kind of a gentle way to describe running across Georgia or Connecticut Avenue in dark clothes at night, but there have been a number of people killed doing this. No need to be speeding.

If you live in the area you know that there are long stretches without crosswalks. These are not pedestrian friendly communities yet we are building housing based on the assumption not everyone is driving. So how do you expect people to get around? The pedestrian infrastructure on Georgia Ave in particular but also Connecticut and University is disgraceful.

The crosswalks they put in are stupid. They are just lines on the road. There are no lights to activate, and I can’t see how pedestrians would truly be any safer for being in that type of crosswalk at night than just jay walking. It’s a false sense of security.

[Anonymous]

It’s pretty easy to avoid being hit by a car. It just requires being patient long enough to wait for a moment when there are no cars.

I realize how simplistic this sounds, but in my occupation I’ve seen several people die because they couldn’t wait a few seconds longer to get across the street and buy a lottery ticket or pack of cigarettes.


I’m not making this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:08:33's article that was pasted here got deleted.

You can’t just cut and paste the entire text of a copyrighted article here. I don’t subscribe yet and the link worked for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty easy to avoid being hit by a car. It just requires being patient long enough to wait for a moment when there are no cars.

I realize how simplistic this sounds, but in my occupation I’ve seen several people die because they couldn’t wait a few seconds longer to get across the street and buy a lottery ticket or pack of cigarettes.


I’m not making this up.

How long do you think you need to wait to cross 7 lanes of highway? What do you do if you start crossing and a car comes that you couldn’t see when you started crossing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty easy to avoid being hit by a car. It just requires being patient long enough to wait for a moment when there are no cars.

I realize how simplistic this sounds, but in my occupation I’ve seen several people die because they couldn’t wait a few seconds longer to get across the street and buy a lottery ticket or pack of cigarettes.


I’m not making this up.

How long do you think you need to wait to cross 7 lanes of highway? What do you do if you start crossing and a car comes that you couldn’t see when you started crossing?

Not to mention that the human mind isn't really equipped to estimate how fast a car speeding at 60mph at night is going to approach you when you're three lanes across.

[Anonymous]

The police no longer enforce traffic laws. There is speeders and stop sign runners everywhere. You have a county council members wanting the police to back off the traffic enforcement. You no longer have to call 911 for an emergency. You have to go to your local donut shop or chipotle's get them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police no longer enforce traffic laws. There is speeders and stop sign runners everywhere. You have a county council members wanting the police to back off the traffic enforcement. You no longer have to call 911 for an emergency. You have to go to your local donut shop or chipotle's get them.

Wow, a cop and donut joke. How original.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police no longer enforce traffic laws. There is speeders and stop sign runners everywhere. You have a county council members wanting the police to back off the traffic enforcement. You no longer have to call 911 for an emergency. You have to go to your local donut shop or chipotle's get them.

Wow, a cop and donut joke. How original.

Well....it is true, isn't it? Even in this day and age?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police no longer enforce traffic laws. There is speeders and stop sign runners everywhere. You have a county council members wanting the police to back off the traffic enforcement. You no longer have to call 911 for an emergency. You have to go to your local donut shop or chipotle's get them.

Wow, a cop and donut joke. How original.

Well....it is true, isn't it? Even in this day and age?

I’ve literally never seen a cop at Chipotle or a donut shop.

[Anonymous]

Went to Costco today and the speed camera is back, as I predicted it would be early in this thread. It’s closer to St. Paul than it was before as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to Costco today and the speed camera is back, as I predicted it would be early in this thread. It’s closer to St. Paul than it was before as well.

Yes, police said in September it would be back the first week of October.