Noticable reduction in homeless and tents in DC, what about libaries and metro?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

Yes, they do. I know a woman in her 70s who can't afford an apt any more. She would rather live in her car with her cat than live in a a high rise apt bldg without her car. She's "managing" on a $1200 monthly security check and help from those of us who know her. She has schizophrenia and does not want to take meds. She used to be a vet tech.

Well she's mentally ill so that's why she is "choosing" to live that way. You can't be serious that you don't understand that. Did she choose to be mentally ill?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

Exactly. But the PP is very eager to claim moral superiority so she can feel better about herself (or himself) and not have to find a solution to a problem or have compassion.

What's your solution? Please share.

Find someplace cheap and immediate where they can legally stay -- like a few acres of land, a campground, a field full of sheds -- whatever. Then let them live their addicted mentally ill lives in peace while offering social services if they are able to accept that.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.

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Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.

And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.

To the place that compassionate and generous Democrats in the DC area made available for all the homeless individuals.

OK MAGAt stay in your hellhole wherever that is.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

Yes, they do. I know a woman in her 70s who can't afford an apt any more. She would rather live in her car with her cat than live in a a high rise apt bldg without her car. She's "managing" on a $1200 monthly security check and help from those of us who know her. She has schizophrenia and does not want to take meds. She used to be a vet tech.

Well she's mentally ill so that's why she is "choosing" to live that way. You can't be serious that you don't understand that. Did she choose to be mentally ill?

What are you not understanding? We know she's mentally ill. That's why we're helping her. What words would you prefer when someone refuses safe housing?

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Where are the homeless/unhoused being placed? Are they receiving housing?

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Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.

And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.

outside of the city limits where people live and try to raise families. Build outdoor compounds with toilets and showers and garbage disposal service outside of the cities in rural land somewhere. People who want tent living can continue living outdoors, those who want indoor living can have micro apartments. You can even make it a farm commune, which many people may find restorative to recovery. Have homeless people take care of homeless animals (animal shelter work). Recovery through labor is very effective. Part time work based on people's ability can be very rewarding and give needed dopamine to people who are down and out making them feel needed and respected and not treating them as victims deserving only our pity and not respect. It signals to people that we, as society gave up on them. Shelters in urban areas can also work, but will have to have strict rules of behavior and open drug use, because it's so dense and in the face of other citizens and families and kids. People who want to follow rules of behavior can stay in urban shelters, but the shoudl not be so draconian as to make it impossible for people to live with dignity. Micro apartments or dorm style living with shared bathrooms/kitchens can work, plus requirements for part time work doing simple things that our volunteers are doing now, like cleaning trash, graffiti, invasive foliage, etc, or getting job training.

Dignity and respect is what many of these people need who want to recover, not slow suicide in drug induced coma on the streets and begging and seeing disgust or pity in people's faces who walk by.

For those who are severely mentally ill and too far gone in their drug addiction we need to bring institutions back. They need caretakers, not billions of dollars that disappear every year from the budget of many cities to address the problem that only gets worse

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Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.

And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.

Except he is the first president in a long time to take a concrete step TOWARDS "doing that" which is more than previous administrations have done. He has made it a priority through the EO cited above. More federal funding, and greater ease in civil commitment. I imagine this EO has spurred all sorts of folks to begin planning new facilities. Building takes time.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.

Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.

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Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.

And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.

Except he is the first president in a long time to take a concrete step TOWARDS "doing that" which is more than previous administrations have done. He has made it a priority through the EO cited above. More federal funding, and greater ease in civil commitment. I imagine this EO has spurred all sorts of folks to begin planning new facilities. Building takes time.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH yeah, kicking them from one part of the city to another is totally that.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.

Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.

Again, did you post what your solution to the problem is and I missed it?

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Anonymous wrote:well they didn't get the homeless guy who smeared excrement all over a Wisconsin Ave building door just this past Sunday. I don't like Trump but they can come get that guy.

And take him where? I mean I'm all for housing these people and institutionalizing them if they need to be monitored, but Trump isn't doing that.

Except he is the first president in a long time to take a concrete step TOWARDS "doing that" which is more than previous administrations have done. He has made it a priority through the EO cited above. More federal funding, and greater ease in civil commitment. I imagine this EO has spurred all sorts of folks to begin planning new facilities. Building takes time.

Maybe the first step would be to investigate where all the billions allocated to fighting homelessness and mental health crisis (every major city spends) are going.. NYC had allocated 850 mil to De Blowsio's wife for supposed addressing of mental health issues specifically. But things only got worse.. Where did all this money go? nobody knows. If there is massive theft and corruption uncovered maybe address this first. It's not like we don't spend money on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.

Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.

Again, did you post what your solution to the problem is and I missed it?

Yes, I did and you missed it. I posted about rural farm compounds and urban micro apartments with rules of behavior and part time labor requirements for body able and not too far gone. And institutions for those needing caretakers or those who are severely mentally ill and especially violent. NYC has a lot of the latter kind who attack pedestrians and people in subway stations to the point where there are cops now stationed and patrolling for a while now.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the homeless people i encounter are elderly and often struggling mentally as well.

They need a safe place to live longterm and healthcare. So many with abscesses on their feet and missing teeth from lack of health and dental care.

Trump doesn’t care about them, Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He just wants to push them further away from the White House and couldn’t care less if they died. He’d probably be happy if they did.

Have they lived their lives in a way that leads to a long, healthy life?

Such an astonishingly dumb, privileged, moronic question. Doesn't even deserve a response.

Not at all. Drug use is a choice before it becomes an addiction. Many homeless choose that lifestyle even when offered rehab, housing, and food.

I hate to use the word "privileged" but this post personfies the word. You have no idea what it's like to not grow up in a world where drugs and crime are a part of life. It takes a lot to make someone who they are -- it took a lot ot make you so successful and safe (and smug). You were not born that way -- you were raised that way. So were a lot of people who grow up to be drug addicts. And don't forget people who are mentally ill through no fault of their own. You are a despicable person, PP. Show me one religion -- ONE -- that endorses cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate or suffering. You suck.

What you're saying is untrue about me. You're making up a description of me based on nothing meaningful or true. I certainly do not ebdorse cruelty and judgment on those less fortunate. I've spent my life working with children and teens with special needs and helping their families find needed supports. I have several family members with significant addiction-related difficulties (including legal ramifications) and mental health issues. Nonetheless, it's a fact that many people living on the streets have made choices that keep them there. They began using alcohol and/or drugs and then refuse meds, assistance, and shelters. That doesn't mean we give up on them. It also doesn't mean we should just leave them there year after year.

No one "chooses" to be a homeless person.

this is untrue. It's simply illogical to assume that every person who ends up in these circumstances is intrinsically a good person who had never wronged anyone or done anything wrong and is always a victim. Yes, many indeed are, and it's their stories that make media attention. But it's statistically impossible that all good people are poor and homeless and the only evil or bad people out there who had wronged others are those who pay their own living. They are HUMAN. There are bad and good humans among the poor and among the rich.

Did anyone on this entire thread claim anything different? Even bad people don't choose to live in sqalor on the streets. Yes, not an insignificant number of them are probably out of prison (again, mental illness, drugs, hell even being bad), but as you said yourself, they are human. Even prisoners get three meals a day, a bed and clothing.

Just go to SF where they have cheap hotels in Tenderloin where a lot of degeneracy takes place. Just because many of these people are housed it's still a skid row.

Again, did you post what your solution to the problem is and I missed it?

Yes, I did and you missed it. I posted about rural farm compounds and urban micro apartments with rules of behavior and part time labor requirements for body able and not too far gone. And institutions for those needing caretakers or those who are severely mentally ill and especially violent. NYC has a lot of the latter kind who attack pedestrians and people in subway stations to the point where there are cops now stationed and patrolling for a while now.

Well at least you had some kind of a plan. More than a lot of people posting.