Healthy school start time

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Like a 6 year old including that bed time

Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.

They don’t have teens. Between activities, sports, private lessons, homework, tutoring if needed, more like 11 or later. And few kids get home at 2:45 with bus or carpool lane.

As you have written, these are the reasons to start school later for teens to best utilize their teen brains.

No, because kids like mine don’t get all their needs met in school and have other outlets. It’s unfortunate you don’t encourage your kids interests outside school.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do

Different MCPS leadership, different BOE, different families being served, different school boundaries, different commutes to special programs, different priorities. MCPS can’t please everyone, but we’re all allowed to advocate for what we think is best.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do

Different MCPS leadership, different BOE, different families being served, different school boundaries, different commutes to special programs, different priorities. MCPS can’t please everyone, but we’re all allowed to advocate for what we think is best.

You are welcome to advocate but posting here is not advocating. You will hurt more students than you will help. If your kids are in ES, its clear why you don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Like a 6 year old including that bed time

Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.

They don’t have teens. Between activities, sports, private lessons, homework, tutoring if needed, more like 11 or later. And few kids get home at 2:45 with bus or carpool lane.

As you have written, these are the reasons to start school later for teens to best utilize their teen brains.

No, because kids like mine don’t get all their needs met in school and have other outlets. It’s unfortunate you don’t encourage your kids interests outside school.

You need to re read posts. Later school start times will still allow students to engage in other activities that they need or are important. And it's none of your business what posters' kids are doing outside of school. No one cares to hear about yours.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

No one asked where are yours. You can't comprehend no one surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

That wasn't even the question lol. This^ poster is sleep deprived. takes away electronics before tucking in teenagers but can't shut their own screens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do

Different MCPS leadership, different BOE, different families being served, different school boundaries, different commutes to special programs, different priorities. MCPS can’t please everyone, but we’re all allowed to advocate for what we think is best.

You are welcome to advocate but posting here is not advocating. You will hurt more students than you will help. If your kids are in ES, its clear why you don't get it.

Nope. It is very smart of those ES parents to think about it.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

No one asked where are yours. You can't comprehend no one surprised.

She either struggles with literacy or doesn’t bother to read the posts she’s replying to. She doesn’t really need to read what anyone else’s position is; she’s just going to regurgitate the same talking points no matter what other people post.

“It’s called parenting.”

“Take away your kids’ phones.”

“Put your kids to bed”

“Quit expecting MCPS to raise your children.”

“This has already been decided, forever and ever, amen.”

“My kids have school, homework, two jobs, 14 extracurricular activities, and a set bedtime. Any shift in their schedule would end extracurricular activities, even though there would still be the same number of hours in a day.”

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Our fairly large district switched around start times about ten years ago. The high schools now start later (8:50 am).

People made all the same objections folks here are making. But the sky didn't fall. Activities and sports got shifted. People adapted. Yes, MCPS is bigger, has more buses, logistically more difficult but it could be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our fairly large district switched around start times about ten years ago. The high schools now start later (8:50 am).

People made all the same objections folks here are making. But the sky didn't fall. Activities and sports got shifted. People adapted. Yes, MCPS is bigger, has more buses, logistically more difficult but it could be done.

Didn’t involve 50% more buses and drivers that don’t exist ?

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

No one asked where are yours. You can't comprehend no one surprised.

She either struggles with literacy or doesn’t bother to read the posts she’s replying to. She doesn’t really need to read what anyone else’s position is; she’s just going to regurgitate the same talking points no matter what other people post.

“It’s called parenting.”

“Take away your kids’ phones.”

“Put your kids to bed”

“Quit expecting MCPS to raise your children.”

“This has already been decided, forever and ever, amen.”

“My kids have school, homework, two jobs, 14 extracurricular activities, and a set bedtime. Any shift in their schedule would end extracurricular activities, even though there would still be the same number of hours in a day.”

If it's same poster, here is their new one: "Didn’t involve 50% more buses and drivers that don’t exist ? " Plus if that is the poster with high school students, why be part of this kids likely finish high school with current school start time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our fairly large district switched around start times about ten years ago. The high schools now start later (8:50 am).

People made all the same objections folks here are making. But the sky didn't fall. Activities and sports got shifted. People adapted. Yes, MCPS is bigger, has more buses, logistically more difficult but it could be done.

Didn’t involve 50% more buses and drivers that don’t exist ?

Finding bus drivers is a problem all over and changes still get made.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Like a 6 year old including that bed time

Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.

They don’t have teens. Between activities, sports, private lessons, homework, tutoring if needed, more like 11 or later. And few kids get home at 2:45 with bus or carpool lane.

As you have written, these are the reasons to start school later for teens to best utilize their teen brains.

No, because kids like mine don’t get all their needs met in school and have other outlets. It’s unfortunate you don’t encourage your kids interests outside school.

You need to re read posts. Later school start times will still allow students to engage in other activities that they need or are important. And it's none of your business what posters' kids are doing outside of school. No one cares to hear about yours.

How would a later start time do that? It would take away time at night so everything is shifted later so kids go to bed later, still get up at the same time so some loos sleep so yours can sleep in as you want the world to revolve around you.

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.

I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.

The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!

Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.

The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?

Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?

The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm

Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?

And where are you exactly? Right..

Mine are in bed.

No one asked where are yours. You can't comprehend no one surprised.

She either struggles with literacy or doesn’t bother to read the posts she’s replying to. She doesn’t really need to read what anyone else’s position is; she’s just going to regurgitate the same talking points no matter what other people post.

“It’s called parenting.”

“Take away your kids’ phones.”

“Put your kids to bed”

“Quit expecting MCPS to raise your children.”

“This has already been decided, forever and ever, amen.”

“My kids have school, homework, two jobs, 14 extracurricular activities, and a set bedtime. Any shift in their schedule would end extracurricular activities, even though there would still be the same number of hours in a day.”

If it's same poster, here is their new one: "Didn’t involve 50% more buses and drivers that don’t exist ? " Plus if that is the poster with high school students, why be part of this kids likely finish high school with current school start time.

It also causes a child care issue. If es starts earlier, many of those jobs are done by teens and if they aren’t out of school they cannot care for younger kids.