Healthy school start time

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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”


So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”


So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do


Is the Board not also composed of different people?
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”


So the new Board of Education members and new Superintendent will look at the same data and come up with a different result? Sure. Or, you could acknowledge it's a losing issue, and that not everyone wants the same thing you do


New time, new people. With your attitude nothing would ever change ever.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Like a 6 year old including that bed time
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Like a 6 year old including that bed time


Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Like a 6 year old including that bed time


Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.


They don’t have teens. Between activities, sports, private lessons, homework, tutoring if needed, more like 11 or later. And few kids get home at 2:45 with bus or carpool lane.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


How much later would you like? We have two activities that get out at 9:15 but next year it will be 9:30. Activities range from 4-9:30 or so for us. Plus homework.

These are checked out parents where they are not involved or kids in no activities.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?


Your teens are sleep deprived if you are tucking them in at 11pm and they get up to tend to the animals at 4am. You are not parenting. You are only prioritizing your own schedule.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


How much later would you like? We have two activities that get out at 9:15 but next year it will be 9:30. Activities range from 4-9:30 or so for us. Plus homework.

These are checked out parents where they are not involved or kids in no activities.


You call yourself a parent? Your kids do not have healthy sleep yet you do not want them to have a later school start. You only care about your own schedule.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Like a 6 year old including that bed time


Six year old brains sleep by then if not even earlier. Teens' do not.


They don’t have teens. Between activities, sports, private lessons, homework, tutoring if needed, more like 11 or later. And few kids get home at 2:45 with bus or carpool lane.


As you have written, these are the reasons to start school later for teens to best utilize their teen brains.
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


The poster who is adament school start time does not change has their kids
get up at 4am
milk cow
get ready
commute to sports
sports
commute to school
school 7:30am
sports or activities after school, homework, dinner 2:45 - 8pm
poster tucks 16 year old Larlo into bed 8pm


Some mornings are sports, some not.

Get home at 3-3:30, sports and activities, homework, shower and bed by 10:30 to 11:00. Some days they have 2-3 things and aren’t home till 9:30.

You sound lazy if you’d rather be here than parenting. Why shouldn’t the schedule change so your kids can be up all night?


And where are you exactly? Right..
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Anonymous wrote:And it's been looked at, studied, and you've been told NO to moving HS any later already (beyond the 20 minutes its been moved). When my teens do this I tell them to stop badgering me. You're supposedly an adult, so please, move along.


I’ve lived in MoCo for 2 years and my children are 8 and under. Reopen a debate 10 years later and it is an almost entirely new set of families having the discussion. I have certainly not been told “no.”

Plus we’ve had numerous different superintendents since then, we have some new school board members, we have newer technology and we’ve expanded the use of technology in general, we’re trying improve attendance, we’re about to change boundaries, we’re about to switch from centralized upcounty and downcounty magnets to smaller regional specialized programs so more high school students can take more rigorous classse, the college application process is an ever-escalating arms race.


The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn. BOE and Taylor - do your job and adjust bell times!


Actually, instead of telling others to do their job, as a parent do your. Restrict screens and tech yourself. You can refuse to get your kids tech and you can enforce bed times and good routines for healthy sleep. I don't get why so many parents expect MCPS to parent their kids vs. teach.

Re-read the post you’re responding to. It’s not about personal tech use at home. PP was specifically talking about use of screens in school.


The discussion is about start times so the issue would be electronics at home not school.

READ THE POST YOU RESPINDED TO: ”The rise of screens and tech in the educational space has meant more strain on eyes and hands. Restful sleep is needed to function and actually learn.”

Where did you get the dumb idea that only the use of screens outside the school setting impacts kids brains?


Okay, but there are plenty of hours between getting home and going to bed... and if it is such a concern, don't let them have it at home and enforce bedtime and healthy sleep habits. Stop expecting MCPS to parent your kids. Obviously, screens are ok as you are here.

If you change start times by 30 minutes, they don't get more sleep, they just go to bed 30 minutes later as everything shifts back, and in some situations, they may have to get up even earlier as sports and activities are in the AM before school.

So when we’re talking about rejuvenation of the brain, there are plenty of hours between school dismissal and bedtime, but when we talk about extracurricular activities, they can’t possibly be pushed back because there’s not enough time to fit them in after school with a later dismissal?


How much later would you like? We have two activities that get out at 9:15 but next year it will be 9:30. Activities range from 4-9:30 or so for us. Plus homework.

These are checked out parents where they are not involved or kids in no activities.


You call yourself a parent? Your kids do not have healthy sleep yet you do not want them to have a later school start. You only care about your own schedule.


Not all kids need tons of sleep. Mine are fine. You are the one complaining.
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