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Anonymous
Also, thank you Pinecrest for all your hard work. I’m sorry this thread got hijacked with a bunch of negativity. |
Anonymous
🙄 it is not being negative. It is trying to prevent a possible irreversible, life changing, catastrophic event from happening when there is knowledge that it could. I’m sure thousands of kids have safely done what these kids have done…and despite the fact that it was a nonissue for everyone else, it didn’t work for these kids. 17 yr old broken spine diving in at 5 feet: https://youtu.be/u91lZlvS6x0 Paralyzed: https://youtu.be/3SOXbrQMS7I or https://www.ladbible.com/news/sport/ed-jackson-mountain-within-me-never-walk-again-580796-20240821 https://people.com/human-interest/teen-boy-paralyzed-after-diving-shallow-pool/ https://nypost.com/2022/11/25/i-dove-into-a-pool-at-a-party-and-woke-up-quadriplegic/ |
Anonymous
So what? From these articles, it's very likely these people were going head first. There's diving and then there's diving in terms of a racing dive which is a very low angle dive, made even lower by the fact there are no blocks to go. from. |
Anonymous
+1 People paralyzed are diving straight down they are not swimmers doing a race start. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Is Pinecrest not hosting next year? PP mentioned NVSL asking them to do it on a longer term basis. |
Anonymous
No. Pinecrest is NOT hosting next year. |
Anonymous
I only saw one DQ. Were there others related to the water depth that everyone is now whining about? |
Anonymous
By posting about it on an anonymous Internet forum? Also, if you want to have a serious conversation, post serious articles. Lad Bible? Are you serious right now? This is like the UK equivalent of TMZ. |
Anonymous
PP is correct that studies have looked at the dangers of diving into shallow pool depths, but PP left out that the studies don't consider whether the persons involve shallow, low-angle entry dives which swimmers do. And as others points, the articles posted there include people diving head first into depts of around 4-5 ft. This just feels like outrage for the sake of outrage. |
Anonymous
Did someone say it wasn’t? |
Anonymous
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Y'all are crazy. Literally defending something that is objectively UNsafe is perfectly fine. It is not. Stop the BS. You'd get a massive amount more respect if you said, "Yeah, it is not ideal but it's what we have to put up with because other pools can't or won't step up to host. So we deal with it." Once you try and claim this BS about how it is perfectly fine, you lose all respect.
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Anonymous
Since the study doesn't consider the angle, the angle can't be assumed which is how you seem to want it to be viewed. |
Anonymous
It’s a total joke if someone considered water depth and thought 2.5 feet is just fine. I’m not an NVSL parent but just reading this thread it is shocking to me how many parents are so indignant and acting like diving into 2.5 feet of water is NBD. It’s not a personal affront to anyone. I would defy you to find anything supporting the idea of recreational swimmers diving into 2.5 feet of water as a safe practice. My kid swims year round, so yes they could do it, but whether kids can do it and whether they should be doing it are 2 different things. I have a hard time comprehending that this league that everyone in this area touts as one of the nation’s top summer swim leagues does this. |
Anonymous
Sorry to hear that your comprehension skills are not allowing for the fact that YES, it is happening. That YES swim meets have been happening at Pinecrest for decades. AND there were even personal bests achieved at All Stars (at least one by a 15-18 male swimmer). And, in the past - NVSL records made at Pinecrest. Is it ideal to dive into 2.5 - 3 ft of water? No. No one is saying it's ideal. But, no one is proving it's a danger for summer swimmers to do it either. |