Stuyvesant administers a test every year in late October/early November. If you don't like their SHSAT, you can use the PSAT. The lack of testing is not due to a lack of valid tests. I suspect we will soon hear from the poster who thinks we should use the SOL results, which isn't a great aptitude test but it's better than an essay. |
Which is why we look at the acceptance RATE, not just the absolute numbers. For the class of 2024: ![]() The wealthier the school, the higher the chance of getting into the pool and ultimately being accepted. |
That would be the fairest option. |
How the fck did you get to that conclusion from what I wrote? You sound stupid. |
SOLs generally are not great. There is no effective time limit and you world get more perfect scores than available seats. It's better than what we have now but it's not really meant to differentiate students at the far right hand side of the curve. |
Exactly. They are pushing a political narrative in an attempt to spin up ignorant voters. |
Weekday happened the first year we had quant Q? It was unpreparable and yet you still had 1% FARM, You still had 10 or fewer black admits. You still had <5% Hispanic. It was the usual suspect from the usual feeder schools getting in with quant Q that first year it was administered. |
You can make any claim you want if you don't require any evidence. |
But your not getting the smartest kids at Poe. You need some objective measure of academic merit like a test to determine who those are. It's a travel that your kid that is interested in STEM is getting a boost just because you can afford expensive STEM activities is getting a boat regardless of whether that have any aptitude for stem or not. Trading soccer all that but training is the one thing they cannot allow, even with a school quote because Poe has hard working asian students too. |
Affluent families who could afford test prep programs were buying their kids an unfair advantage in admissions.
In fact, back in 2017 the SB switched to quant-q, which intentionally didn’t share prep, in an effort to reduce this unfair advantage. https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/04/26/is-the-no-1-high-school-in-america-thomas-jefferson-fairfax-discrimination/ “ “Is it gonna once again advantage those kids whose parents can pay to sign them up for special prep camps to now be prepping for science testing as well?” Megan McLaughlin [FCPS School Board] asked when presented with the new plan. Admissions director Jeremy Shughart doesn’t think so. The firm that markets the math portion of the test, Quant-Q, doesn’t release materials to the public, a practice that should make them harder for test-prep schools to crack.” TJ students and others have publicly acknowledged the unfair advantage that money can buy and that test prep companies have a "cache of previous and example prompts". https://www.tjtoday.org/23143/showcase/the-children-left-behind/ “ Families with more money can afford to give children that extra edge by signing them up for whatever prep classes they can find. They can pay money to tutoring organizations to teach their children test-taking skills, “skills learned outside of school,” and to access a cache of previous and example prompts, as I witnessed when I took TJ prep; even if prompts become outdated by test changes, even access to old prompts enables private tutoring pupils to gain an upper edge over others: pupils become accustomed to the format of the writing sections and gain an approximate idea of what to expect.” TJ students admitted that they shared quant-q test questions with a test prep company or they saw nearly identical questions on the test. https://www.facebook.com/tjvents/posts/pfbid0jKy4hotXF8AxKwfHm2MAVi7e2yYoCqtrTTXPYsszAdQg6uMoTmReMidqyM1mpu9Bl https://katedalby.com/get-tj-update/ The math required for the test is basic math, algebra, and geometry. In the past, we have used old SAT tests from 30 years ago augmented with select problems to mimic the Quant Q. In order to adapt to the changes, we will increase the number of permutation and combination problems in response to students’ observations about the math last fall. https://www.optimaltjprep.com/ ““M. said that the math questions were very similar to the challenge problems she did with you in classes.” - C.R. (Mother, after 2018-19 test) “E. said that the math questions were very close to what she did with you during the last 2 sessions. To quote her exactly: 'Dr, Tripathi's math problems were dead on point.' We really appreciate your help with her preparation for the test!” - L.R. (Father, after 2017-18 test)” Many videos showing how to solve actual SIS math questions on TJ admissions tests: https://www.youtube.com/@katedalbysinspiringtestpre864/videos https://www.youtube.com/@EduAvenuesTJTestPrep https://www.youtube.com/@principiatutorsconsultants4395/videos |
Race should not be the reason you attend or do not attend TJ. TJ was not the best school in the country because it's teachers are particularly good or because they have better facilities. It was the best school in the country because it selected the best students. With a 120 drop in PSAT score, it is no longer even in the top 100. |
Removing the $100 fee was a great idea, everything else was stupid and racist. The first class under the new system saw a 120 point drop in PSAT score. The drop in student quality is not imagined. The reason for the change was racially driven |
Academic excellence is not evenly distributed by geography, wealth or race. By the time 8th grade comes around, cognitive ability has already been fairly will developed and just going to TJ isn't going to make someone smarter if they are not prepared. |
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The change was racist and now the school is dumber because that's what racist want. |