Harvard Report on Israel/Palestine/Jew/Arab conflict on campus

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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.

Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.

The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.

I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.

Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.

Hamas makes it an imperative to take land.

And you are evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should watch Louis Theroux's documentary, 'The Settlers."

It's horrifying.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.

Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.

The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.

I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.

Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.

Hamas makes it an imperative to take land.

And you are evil.

I miss Christopher Hitchens. He would mock your vile stupidity into the dirt where it belongs.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/30/task-force-reports/

Well, these reports appear to make it pretty clear that Palestinians / Arabs / Muslims were the only ones actually facing physical attacks and threats, doxxing, etc.

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Oh I must have missed all the Jewish kids blocking Muslims students’ access to classes, screaming “death to Arabs,” “Muslims don’t deserve to live,” “Muslim-free campus” and ripping down pictures of Muslim baby hostages.

The hate and savagery only comes from one side on these college campuses, and it sure as hell doesn’t come from the Jewish kids.

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2 billion Muslims need global protection, including by Harvard, from the worlds 7 million Jews. Math, duh.

You’re off with your numbers, but I agree with your sentiment.

Should have been more clear. The world’s 2 billion Muslim population needs to be protected from ISRAELs 7 million Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

Indeed. Take off all of your cover ups and face the music.

[Anonymous]

When is the first protest against Pakistan? It’s a religious ethno state carved up by the whims of of foreign overlords. It’s basically an Israel without Jews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is the first protest against Pakistan? It’s a religious ethno state carved up by the whims of of foreign overlords. It’s basically an Israel without Jews.

No, silly, there won't be any protests without Israel involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone should watch Louis Theroux's documentary, 'The Settlers."

It's horrifying.

This is an excellent documentary; however, the only fault I would say is that some might see the views expressed as fringe or extremist when they are very much mainstream in Israeli society.

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Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

Jews are indigenous to Israel.

Most are indigenous to Eastern Europe, at best.

Majority of Jews living in Israel are descendants of Middle Eastern Jews who were expelled from their homes in the 1930s - 50s by their friendly Arab neighbors.

BS. First, they were not expelled. When Israel was created in 1948, Mossad operatives made sure to use subversive techniques to ensure Jews populated the newly created country.

Secondly, prior to 1948, Jews had been living in Muslim lands for centuries. When Jews were being persecuted in Spain during the inquisition, they fled to Muslim lands in North Africa. When Jews were being persecuted in Eastern European ghettos and pogroms, they were living peacefully in Arab/muslim countries. Learn your history before spreading your ignorant hate.

Wait, are you now claiming that Jews were being treated well in Muslim countries? That they were treated equally? And that they chose to move to Israel for funsies? Got it.

There were Jews who refused to leave Iraq, Morocco, Egypt and many other places in the Middle east so Israeli forces directly and indirectly attacked them as well as made deals with their governments to force them out. Jewish historian Avi Shlaim has written much on it. Zionists have no problem attacking their own people if it serves their greater goals.

https://podcasts.ox.ac.uk/zionism-and-jews-iraq-personal-perspective

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Anonymous wrote:Do you really think that Palestinians are somehow different from the average human and do not want to live a fulfilled life?

Completely insane, racist rhetoric here. Please don’t send your children to the same college as my children are going to go to.

(Almost) everyone wants Palestinians to live a “fulfilled life”.

Unfortunately, that’s not in any way what this conflict or the campus protests are about.

Because we have a RIGHT to say, do not massacre people with American taxpayer money and American university endowments. Period.

You want to fund Israel and support its insanity go right ahead! But stop bribing our politicians to spend our American taxpayer money and endowment funds on your stupid wars and stop trampling on our children’s freedom of speech.

Always glad when the extremist nutters self-identify. Thanks.

DP

GTFOH, you POS. The nutters are anyone and everyone defending Israel’s policies and actions. May unrelenting shame rain down on you and them for eternity.

You so mad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is the first protest against Pakistan? It’s a religious ethno state carved up by the whims of of foreign overlords. It’s basically an Israel without Jews.

Please do not be intellectually dishonest nor intellectually lazy.

Since World War II, the U.S. has provided Israel with more foreign aid than any other country, primarily in military assistance. Adjusting for inflation, total U.S. aid to Israel from 1951 to 2022 is estimated at $317.9 billion, with $225.2 billion (71%) for military purposes and $92.7 billion (29%) for economic aid.

In recent years, aid has been predominantly military. Under a 2016 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), the U.S. committed to providing Israel $38 billion in military aid from 2019 to 2028, averaging $3.8 billion annually, including $3.3 billion in foreign military financing and $500 million for missile defense systems like Iron Dome.

For 2024, estimates vary due to supplemental funding and ongoing conflicts:
A Brown University Costs of War project report estimates the U.S. spent at least $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since October 7, 2023, the highest single-year amount in inflation-adjusted terms. This includes military financing, arms sales, and $4.4 billion in drawdowns from U.S. stockpiles. An additional $4.86 billion supported U.S. military operations in the region, such as countering Houthi attacks.

In 2023, the average taxpayer contributed approximately $14.58 to Israel’s military, according to the National Priorities Project.

Beyond direct aid, Israel benefits from unique arrangements, such as loan guarantees (e.g., $16.4 billion in military loans converted to grants from 1974–1989) and access to advanced U.S. weapons like F-35 jets. Since the 1980s, aid has been provided in lump sums at the fiscal year’s start, unlike other countries receiving quarterly installments. Israel puts that money back into US Treauries earning additional interest revenue and costing the US taxpayer even more!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is the first protest against Pakistan? It’s a religious ethno state carved up by the whims of of foreign overlords. It’s basically an Israel without Jews.

Oh, I must have missed the part where the U.S. has been a host to Pakistan’s relentless parasitism for the better part of the last century.

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Anonymous wrote:When is the first protest against Pakistan? It’s a religious ethno state carved up by the whims of of foreign overlords. It’s basically an Israel without Jews.

Oh, I must have missed the part where the U.S. has been a host to Pakistan’s relentless parasitism for the better part of the last century.

Evidently you haven’t been paying attention. Billions in US aid to Pakistan since the late ‘40s.

Maybe you have a bit of a bias here? Wonder what it could possibly be….
/s

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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.

Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.

The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.

I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.

Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.

Hamas makes it an imperative to take land.

And you are evil.

I miss Christopher Hitchens. He would mock your vile stupidity into the dirt where it belongs.

Christopher Hitchens was on record for stating how evil Zionism is.

"Everybody knows that if you want to occupy people against their will, if you want to be the governor of another people who haven't chosen you, you will end up visiting terrible cruelty on them. There certainly cannot be a humane occupation."

A clip of him with Charlie Rose on Zionism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Kszl_bpeA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those tunnels under Gaza were funded by the UN $ - funds intended for humanitarian aid - corrupt Palestinian officials use the $ for tunnels, weapons and the billionaire hamas leadership living large in Qatar. Yes, people knew about the tunnels, but the int'l community didnt care and kept funding them. Funds meant for womens health, food, etc are controlled and withheld by Hamas. Hamas intentionally operates out of residential, medical and educational facilities. They use their people as human shields. They couldn't care less about the health and welfare of their people. Israel left Gaza in 2005. (And eqypt ruled gaza for 20 years before that) Gaza elected Hamas which operates like a mafia and oppresses their own people. Hamas led the Oct 7 attack and murder of over 1200 Israeli civilians and the hostages still held there. Hamas knew Israel would respond and Hamas is responsible for any lives lost due to the war they started. They don't want ceasefires and, they don't want peace, and they certainly dont care about womens rights or building a stable economy. They just want to destroy Israel. There is no other nation that would sit back and accept that.

OMG! How do we de-program you. Just lies coming out of your mouth.

Have you no decency? Children are dying because of your stupidity. Do you not read Haaretz?

I am a NP and I read multiple sources every day. Including haaretz, al Jazeera, etc. Perhaps you should make an effort to read multiple perspectives as well! We can all learn more that way rather than sitting in one's silo. Children in gaza are dying bc of Hamas actions. Hamas attacked on oct 7, knowing israel would respond and they refuse to return the hostages, intentionally hiding them in homes and in tunnels under civilian structures. Hamas is holding dead bodies hostage- that is inhumane. Hamas made choices that put their people at risk. Israel left gaza in 2005 and Hamas was elected. They chose militants to rule them. The wall was built after a cycle of terrorist bombings during the intifada. Would you do nothing when civilian buses are being blown up? There is a cycle of violence and a refusal to negotiate for peace. I grew up believing in a 2 state solution, but have finally come to realize that Palestinians have always rejected every effort for peace and will never accept Israel. The cycle is sad, but hamas and the plo must also assume responsibility for their complicity in this never ending cycle. Ypu cant only blame israel. Seeing the atrocities of Oct 7 and the point blank murder of jews, and the silence of the International community has been a wake up call for me. Seeing the lack of condemnation of the violence against Jewish women, children, and men. The acceptance of hate speech against Jews (not israel) should be cause for concern for all Americans. When anti Asian hate surfaced during covid, our nation galvanized when people said 'go back to your country,'. Those comments are now targeted toward american jews, often on college campuses, and people dont care. That is not ok. I am not stupid and I am actually a very decent person. Name calling and slogans are lazy, dangerous, and don't solve complex world problems.