Why the hate for Boston College?

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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.







This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


DP: I don't understand why you are comparing the outcome of an English major to a finance major. English majors, for the most part, are not prioritizing near-term earnings (and may not care much about earnings father out, either). There are a LOT of rich kids at Harvard who can afford to pursue a career without regard to salary.

If kids worries about future earnings above all else, they don't major in English (or if they do, they'll double major in English/ Econ or English/ statistics).
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.







This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


DP: I don't understand why you are comparing the outcome of an English major to a finance major. English majors, for the most part, are not prioritizing near-term earnings (and may not care much about earnings father out, either). There are a LOT of rich kids at Harvard who can afford to pursue a career without regard to salary.

If kids worries about future earnings above all else, they don't major in English (or if they do, they'll double major in English/ Econ or English/ statistics).


This was about so called 'network' being overrated and overhyped.
Yes, if you are not rich, be aware.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.

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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.



Crediting. It’s obvious unless BC pays you to troll forums to hype it up.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.



Education is more interesting and meaningful?

All the most interesting, innovative, futuristic, exciting, and life-enriching stuff are coming from tech and engineering powered by venture capital.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.



USC or NYU if you that kind of connection, but you still need to be very lucky.

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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.



Education is more interesting and meaningful?

All the most interesting, innovative, futuristic, exciting, and life-enriching stuff are coming from tech and engineering powered by venture capital.


Look, preferences differ -- and thank goodness for that! I'm glad there are engineers interested in coding. Coding bores me. I'm glad there are some people who are interested in finance. I think finance is REALLY boring and soulless (which is why they have to pay workers so much to attract smart people to do it). I hope some of them are smart enough to manage us through the impending financial crisis.

Others might prefer to produce a film, care for the sick, teach the young, minister to the desolate, etc. All of these vocations require education, and merit investment from elite institutions.

You want to measure success in dollars for your kid. You do you. I think a healthy society requires broader definitions of success.

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Average Catholic school not worth the money.
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Anonymous wrote:Fact BC, BU, and NU were commuter schools until the 80s or 90s. Primary focus was working class kids not like Williams Tufts Holy Cross, Notre Dame. For reference the patriarch of Kennedy family graduated from Harvard not BC well over 100 years ago!


So were a lot of colleges. California state colleges and universities were originally all commuter schools designed for the various locations around the state. They’ve come a long way since then.

I don’t understand why you are looking at the history of these colleges in a negative light.
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Anonymous wrote:In the STEM fields, especially CS/AI and engineering, NEU has surpassed BC so while it has a very good business program while BU has made a big push in engineering, many see alternatives in in-demand fields just in the Boston area.


The BC network within Boston is fine but you are competing with Tufts, BU, and NEU (to say nothing of Harvard and MIT and NESCACs or Ivy graduates looking to return home), none of which is a clearly better than the others. Because so much of the higher-paying Boston job market is biotech, it is less than ideal to got to BC thinking you will stay in Boston. Maybe you work back or middle office at State Street.


Network is overrated anyways.


Not when you go to a T25 school.


This is what you get with the fancy network.

- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/


Self-reported stats are beautiful and not fraught with significant problems. Let me know the next time you fill out an alumni survey of your income and net worth 30 years out of school. If you think the BC Finance major is doing better in life than Harvard English you are a fanatic.


Stop crying. It's not self-reported. It's data from the Department of Education.
BC finance outcome is definitely better than Harvard English. You are clueless


It is self-reported. Seniors and recent college alumni are not obligated to provide the Dept. of Education their income. They are not subpoenad. Duh


Can't you even google? it took me 3 seconds.

"The College Scorecard gathers data through federal reporting from institutions, data on federal financial aid, and tax information. It also utilizes data from the National Student Loan Data System (NSLDS) for program-level enrollment and earnings information. The data is then aggregated and analyzed to provide metrics like graduation rates, debt levels, and post-graduation earnings."


That is a narrow set of students. Full pay students are not accounted for.


Do we care what daughter of Obama or son of Trump makes after graduation? Hell no.
They'll get a job by working for dad or via fancy connection. those will actually skew the data.
This eliminates the factor and provides realistic data for common people (lower, middle, upper middle class) either at Harvard or Boston College.



I do. I want rich and connected classmates. Not used car salesmen’s children.


Rich classmates won't bother with your kid.
That's why
- Harvard English = $64,155
- Boston College Finance = $135,373
- Northeastern CS = $149,127


Call me when you or your kid actually chooses NEU or BC over Harvard and has acceptance letters in hand.


There are a lot of rich people at Boston College too.
I just showed you so called network is overrated and overhyped either at Harvard or Boston College.
Never relay on that.


You did not show that. You showed that, as a group, FNCE workers get much higher salaries than English majors, who are likely to enter education, the arts, etc -- fields that are known for being more interesting and meaningful than they are remunerative. Getting a $60K job as a Hollywood agent or a gallerista requires a powerful network. I'd guess that Harvard's network is stronger than BC's, which is stronger than JMU.

English majors, unlike you, might not measure success with a dollar figure.



Education is more interesting and meaningful?

All the most interesting, innovative, futuristic, exciting, and life-enriching stuff are coming from tech and engineering powered by venture capital.


Look, preferences differ -- and thank goodness for that! I'm glad there are engineers interested in coding. Coding bores me. I'm glad there are some people who are interested in finance. I think finance is REALLY boring and soulless (which is why they have to pay workers so much to attract smart people to do it). I hope some of them are smart enough to manage us through the impending financial crisis.

Others might prefer to produce a film, care for the sick, teach the young, minister to the desolate, etc. All of these vocations require education, and merit investment from elite institutions.

You want to measure success in dollars for your kid. You do you. I think a healthy society requires broader definitions of success.



No, this was about some people here sucking up to rich people and wishing to get lucky, VS believing in their own merit and themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:Fact BC, BU, and NU were commuter schools until the 80s or 90s. Primary focus was working class kids not like Williams Tufts Holy Cross, Notre Dame. For reference the patriarch of Kennedy family graduated from Harvard not BC well over 100 years ago!


So were a lot of colleges. California state colleges and universities were originally all commuter schools designed for the various locations around the state. They’ve come a long way since then.

I don’t understand why you are looking at the history of these colleges in a negative light.


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