AAP Results and Discussion 2025

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

[Anonymous]

Vast majority dont care about lablels like giftedness, naturally talented, etc... What academically focused taxpayers are looking for is basic education beyond remedial standard which is what current gen ed is, and AAP level 4 provides that basic standard. For those that want advanced standard, there is no alternative but to seek after school enrichment.

[Anonymous]

for remedial education remain in gen ed.
for basic education enroll in AAP Level 4.
for advanced education enroll in paid Outside enrichment.

for intro to sports attend basic PE class
for school sport team placement attend Outside paid leagues, training, practice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know from past experience when the orientation emails come out/roughly when orientation happen? My kids are unsure about leaving thier friends at thier base school so I think seeing the new school would help with thier choice. (Springfield estates)

Your DC is in 2nd grade. You can prepare them for going to a new school, the way you would for any other move. But this isn't their decision. This is the parents' decision.

Our center has already advertised it. It's the last week in April.

Ours is next week, so you should call and ask just in case.

Is this about orientation at the school? I would think AAP parents would be informed by email?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:for remedial education remain in gen ed.
for basic education enroll in AAP Level 4.
for advanced education enroll in paid Outside enrichment.

for intro to sports attend basic PE class
for school sport team placement attend Outside paid leagues, training, practice.

Or just do some stuff with your kid at home, as we do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know from past experience when the orientation emails come out/roughly when orientation happen? My kids are unsure about leaving thier friends at thier base school so I think seeing the new school would help with thier choice. (Springfield estates)

Your DC is in 2nd grade. You can prepare them for going to a new school, the way you would for any other move. But this isn't their decision. This is the parents' decision.

Our center has already advertised it. It's the last week in April.

Ours is next week, so you should call and ask just in case.

Is this about orientation at the school? I would think AAP parents would be informed by email?

We're at a center school. It went out in the regular newsletter before decisions. I assume there would be another email to AAP parents, but I don't know for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to add another layer to this discussion…for the kids that got in, did you redshirt them?

Nope. Late summer birthday, always one of the youngest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

First, you’re talking to more than one person over here. Apparently I am in good company.

Second, if I must engage more with your sports analogy, I will tell you that people who understand youth sports *do* take issue with the way some work because naturally talented kids aren’t always the ones with the money to get recognized, and, as a result, some sports have a huge breakdown in the talent pipeline. Look into youth soccer and the problems with the pay-to-play model. It’s a widely recognized issue. Our national sports suffer because of economic privilege. The same thing happens with academics.

Also, you are allowed to defend your choices. I see things differently, and I am allowed to be frustrated that prepping is ruining aptitude identification, especially because my gifted child loses out on opportunities because of it, and I find it disingenuous to fabricate work and pad scores. At the end of the day, we both have to live with ourselves, and, if you are comfortable with your choices, I am not naive enough to believe I’ll change your mind. Seems like you are fairly set in your opinions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

You are ridiculous and trying to blur the line between prepping and actually cheating. I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference (or pretend not to in order to spare yourself the shame).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

Also, with your mindset it is not clear where you would draw the line. Why don't you do your child's school work for them as well? Write their essays and such? And maybe your kids won't know where to draw the line either and they'll use ChatGPT and other methods of cheating to get ahead. They'll get into MIT and you can brag on here.

I am in higher ed and I'm increasingly getting high schoolers asking me about opportunities to work with me and I know it's crazy parents like this who are putting them up to it so that they can pad their resume in hopes of top college admittance. As a result, I have a no highschoolers policy! Sorry, not feeding the monster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

You are ridiculous and trying to blur the line between prepping and actually cheating. I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference (or pretend not to in order to spare yourself the shame).

Prepping tests/competitions is not cheating, only those parents don't have the ability to prep their kids would complain those prepping their kids. even if a kid is supper smart, and the parents not doing any prepping for math contest/competition, that kid won't do well in those contest/competition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top athletes are being "prepped" as well. By top, I mean the very best in any league in any sport in our area. They have parents who played D1, D2, or D3 and spend time with their kids perfecting the sport, working on them from a very young age. Some can even afford to get trainers for additional workouts....It's the same game, people. Just the sport happens to be academia. So stop complaining.

Prepping for an aptitude test makes the tests unreliable. When kids who are gifted are losing out on gifted education because other kids are being prepped, parents have the right to complain, just like you do.

HA! So then prepping for a tryout makes the tryout unreliable?? When kids that are athletic are losing out on spots at top teams in the DMV because John was prepared/conditioned to excel from an early age, how many parents' complain? NONE.

Because oh John is just "naturally talented".

Giftedness is a type of neurodivergence. There are supposed to be gifted education classes to meet the needs of gifted kids. FCPS essentially provides advanced classes, not gifted education support— in part because of all this prepping. Bless you if you do not need to understand the difference.

Oh, so you don't like the parallel between prepping for an academic test and prepping for sports? And therefore, you are making this about "giftedness" and what "FCPS provides." You have the choice of completely opting out of all tests if you do not like the format or offerings. But here you are, complaining on an AAP forum about the "advanced support" that kids receive because parents are "prepping" and how that's diluting the service offerings and keeping gifted kids from getting in.

My point is simple, its preparing to excel at something else. It isn't all that different. Namaste!

You are rationalizing unethical behavior. It's ok to get a book and review a couple of tests to make sure the kid is not making silly errors from not having encountered such a format before, but to attend multi-week classes or force your kid to complete 10+ tests so that you can game the score... well, you know why it's not all about the scores. Because no one thinks that getting a 160 via that path is meaningful.

I'm glad I didn't go that route (I would have felt guilty and bad for my kid). My kid's scores were not out of this world but were good enough and meant something.

And going back to your sports analogy, no one likes athletes who cheat and you are talking about cheating.

No, I am not referring to D1 parents coaching their kids from a very young age, or getting trainers as cheating. I am absolutely not! You are missing the point. People prep their kids. My issue is the hate when people make a big stink with academic "prepping" and call it "unethical". You are "prepping" your kid because you can and want to for whatever reason. Be it sports, be it school tests. Its your decision.

Parents are spending thousands on trainers, league fees, sports travel which is giving their kids a head start. That is their PRIORITY. And guess what, my child as a result, is losing spot on a nationally recognized baseball team. BUT I live with that decision. I take my time and $$ and spend on education. Why the bitterness??

First, you’re talking to more than one person over here. Apparently I am in good company.

Second, if I must engage more with your sports analogy, I will tell you that people who understand youth sports *do* take issue with the way some work because naturally talented kids aren’t always the ones with the money to get recognized, and, as a result, some sports have a huge breakdown in the talent pipeline. Look into youth soccer and the problems with the pay-to-play model. It’s a widely recognized issue. Our national sports suffer because of economic privilege. The same thing happens with academics.

Also, you are allowed to defend your choices. I see things differently, and I am allowed to be frustrated that prepping is ruining aptitude identification, especially because my gifted child loses out on opportunities because of it, and I find it disingenuous to fabricate work and pad scores. At the end of the day, we both have to live with ourselves, and, if you are comfortable with your choices, I am not naive enough to believe I’ll change your mind. Seems like you are fairly set in your opinions.

Got it. Love your hate towards parents of AAP kids prep, are disingenuous, fabricate work and oh pad scores.