AAP Results and Discussion 2025
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Anonymous
| Ok, i'm sorry, i'm new to this - what is "in-pool"?? |
Anonymous
It means your kid was the top 10% of their school on an average (we think, some combination) of NNAT and CogAT scores, and would have been screened for AAP whether or not your kid was parent (or teacher) referred. About 2/3rds of kids who are in-pool get in during a typical year. |
Anonymous
Agree, this is a really strong HOPE. Last year, our neighbor kid made paper airplane out of her HOPE score form and it landed in our backyard. Her score was really similar with a few more marked as exceptional subject. She got pulled out to work 1:1 with AART since kindergarten and is now taking 5th grade AAP math in 3rd grade. |
Anonymous
I would guess that your child was borderline based on all of the test scores. The CoGAT was 131 and the iReadys were in the low to mid 90th percentile. I would guess that your kid is seen as being a better fit for Advanced Math then AAP because the iReady was in the 93rd percentile while the math was 96th percentile. The ES feeding into Chantilly have strong ES where kids are likely to have higher test scores, iReady scores, and the like. |
Anonymous
THANK YOU! How do we know if this is the case?? Is this another data point, like HOPE, that we can request? |
Anonymous
That does seem like a great HOPE. Is there anything you can do in the cover letter to talk about the social areas that are "almost always?" If I were a committee member I'd be weighting the academics more (they do emphasize, after all, how AAP is an academic program when they tell you not to submit Legos and artwork as a work sample without compelling explanations to go with), but maybe you got people who took the social really seriously? |
Anonymous
Thank for your feedback! Yes, probably I will consider emphasizing about his social aspect(I honestly don’t get some key questions in HOPE, why and how they are related/weighed to sort out suitable kids for aap, old GBRS that I’ve done with my first child two years ago was way more reasonable) I do think HOPE about social stuffs are rated pretty accurately, my DS is absolutely loved by his homeroom teacher, gets along very well with kids and is such a good rule follower. He got “always” for being a leader in his peer group, but it’s not like he has such big personality and wants to lead everything. He can be shy and obeservant at beginning, and he would not be the one who always jumps in to raise his hands everytime, so this whole rating does seem make sense to me. But as it is considered overall great rating, maybe I would just want to give it a try with better samples and explanations covering his weakness. |
Anonymous
Thank you for your feedback! I agree, it would probably have been his test scores that have put him borderline. I was thinking to appeal though with better samples and wisc to supplement as he got strong HOPE. If he didn’t get good HOPE, I would never bother to appeal. |
Anonymous
If you want to get a WISC, I would call GMU today. From what a friend who is appealing shared, they are filling up rapidly. |
Anonymous
You would have been noticed back in December. It is called universal screener. You only get notified if your child tested top 10% of your school. |
Anonymous
| Does anyone have opinions on the quality of AAP education/instruction at Haycock ES? Or other place? |
Anonymous
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Current Grade: 2nd grade
NNAT: 148 CoGAT: 139 In Pool (Yes/No): Yes iReady Math Percentile: 99 iReady Reading Percentile: 86 HOPE (good/bad/etc, # of exceptional subjects): 1 almost always, 4 often, 4 sometimes, 2 rarely. and 5 exceptional subjects - 2e (anxious) student Pyramid: Chantilly In/not in: Not In Submitting an appeal and getting WISC done. would appreciate any suggestions and thoughts on what additional info to include with appeal? |
Anonymous
Don't appeal. Your child is definitely smart and qualified. The issue is the HOPE rating. Anything in the sometimes and rarely will automatically DQ him/her. The WISC would need to be 150+ Most of these schools are looking for the 'MODEL' student. While your child is smart, his/her current teacher did not give him/her a great hope rating and that really is the key. The grades is just a filter to see who is eligible and the real deciding factor is whether your child is going to be problematic for the school/teacher. I rather you not get your hopes up and go through all these efforts and spend $400 at GMU to do the WISC test to end up only in disappointment. |
Anonymous
You are completely insane. A child does not need to be above the 99.9th percentile to get accepted into a program that takes around 20% of the population. I would not bother with the WISC, and instead include new work samples. Explain your child's anxiety and give reasons why AAP placement would be much better for your child's anxiety than a gen ed placement. You can also use the anxiety as a reason your child is not functioning well in gen ed and why your child's teacher is not seeing the giftedness (despite rating your child as exceptional in 5 subjects). |
Anonymous
Don't listen to this person. What about the VAALLSS? One benefit of the WISC is it is more sensitive so if you know your child has strong verbal skills, that could be more clear on the WISC than these other crappy metrics FCPS uses. Also you mention the reading I-Ready but do you have more recent scores that validate that your DC is a strong reader? Otherwise, focus on the work samples to back it up! The HOPE might be good depending on what the areas of strength were. You don't need a perfect HOPE. What boxes were checked? I don't think the WISC needs to be 150+ but just notably higher than the current tests. |