Federal workers who telework one day a week could lose locality pay

[Anonymous]

If I'm going to lose my entire locality pay just by teleworking every Wednesday, I will just go fully remote. What is the incentive to go into the office at all?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I'm going to lose my entire locality pay just by teleworking every Wednesday, I will just go fully remote. What is the incentive to go into the office at all?!

Also the bill doesn’t mention remote workers; you could be local remote and keep locality pay.

The bill is dumb.

[Anonymous]

You are not going to have jobs period full
Stop mass firings coming day one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are not going to have jobs period full
Stop mass firings coming day one

Not how it works. Go back to your troll farm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As they should. Look up the definition of locality pay.

Are you being dense on purpose?

You honestly believe that someone who lives in Ashburn, VA, should lose their locality pay if they choose to work ONE day a week from home?

YEP. I honestly do.

Why? People have been teleworking at least a day a week for over two decades now. Many private sector workers are hybrid. Why should govt take a huge pay cut to be hybrid when the govt saves money on the deal (office space, utilities, supplies)?

For a lot of knowledge jobs in 2025 there just isn’t something magical about being on an office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are not going to have jobs period full
Stop mass firings coming day one

oh sure....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are not going to have jobs period full
Stop mass firings coming day one

Good luck with that Russian trolls. And Muskrat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They really hate us!

Federal employees who telework at least once a week would lose locality pay under a new House bill. Under the Federal Employee Return to Work Act, teleworking employees would receive "Rest of U.S." locality pay even if they live and work in a region with a higher cost of living. Rep. Dan Newhouse introduced the bill. He and Sen. Bill Cassidy led the bill during the last session of Congress.
(Newhouse leads legislation to send federal employees back to work - Rep. Dan Newhouse)

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-newscast/2025/01/federal-workers-who-telework-one-day-a-week-could-lose-locality-pay/

I will read the rest of the thread later, but yes, I hate you. I am one of your neighbors who moved not too long ago. I find government workers to be insufferable in their self importance. I hope he finds a way to downsize government and get rid of the bloat, and this is plenty, we all now that, including you.

Your post says more about the type of person you are rather than anything bad about government workers. You have some SERIOUS problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They really hate us!

Federal employees who telework at least once a week would lose locality pay under a new House bill. Under the Federal Employee Return to Work Act, teleworking employees would receive "Rest of U.S." locality pay even if they live and work in a region with a higher cost of living. Rep. Dan Newhouse introduced the bill. He and Sen. Bill Cassidy led the bill during the last session of Congress.
(Newhouse leads legislation to send federal employees back to work - Rep. Dan Newhouse)

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-newscast/2025/01/federal-workers-who-telework-one-day-a-week-could-lose-locality-pay/

I will read the rest of the thread later, but yes, I hate you. I am one of your neighbors who moved not too long ago. I find government workers to be insufferable in their self importance. I hope he finds a way to downsize government and get rid of the bloat, and this is plenty, we all now that, including you.

Hating a group that literally employees hundreds of thousands of people and coming to post about it on the internet is … not something mentally well people do.

You seem very unhappy. I hope you can get the help you need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather loose locality pay to be able to telework at least one day a week or rather keep locality pay and return to work 5 days a week?

I'd personally go in, because, no joke, the difference is 30k but 90% of my agency is not DC area, we're all 50 states. We hired hundreds of people entirely remotely.

this is what makes me laugh. my DH is a FED, we live in DC and less than 10 miles from his agency (15-20 min by car), he was doing some remote work already before covid (like 2 days week) and totally remote since 2020. we could not care less if he has to go back, he will. But people who were hired from red states far away, they are going to be screwed. some GOP rants about moving feds out of DC and dont realize the easier way is for jobs that can be remote to be remote so people from anywhere can be hired. so this is screwing the people from the very states these GOP reprs and senators are from. and I dont even mention that my DH's agency, in the middle of nowhere MD, does not have space and parking space for the number of employees so if everybody is 100% back in the office there is an issue where people are going to sit and how they get there if they cannot park anywhere. but hey, while the billionaires screw the country and increase the debt to unsustainable levels damaging everybody, the GOP needs some scapegoats to channel people's rage and as immigrants, trans, Muslims, the welfare queens may not be enough, they need to throw in the feds too, spending their time taking bubble baths and working 1-2 hours a day for a lavish amount of money funded by hardworking middle America that struggle from pay check to paycheck while working on site 12hr a day (cit. Joni Ernst)

Most of the feds are living in cheap 1 hour away areas like pg county

Yup. You try supporting a family on 100k with a reasonable commute to DC, if you didn't buy a house 10 years ago. Parts of PG county are pretty close in, but lots of us live places like Frederick, Woodbridge, Fredericksburg, etc. Telework helped us balance relatively low salaries (most feds aren't lawyers at the SEC) with, you know, having a life. It's even harder to move close on a fed salary than it was before covid.

As a fed, how does your family make 100k? A GS7, step 1 makes $57,164 and we don't hire below a GS7 (interns are lower). Two GS7s would still be making $114k and your income would increase yearly.

I agree that most feds are not GS 15. Most are likely GS11s, which make $84-109k. It's not that hard to live on double that salary with both people working.

A new GS-12 makes 100k. That's solid mid-career level in my agency, often supervisory. And not everyone is married to an equal earner - we have made life decisions around housing based on just one income because my spouse's career was unstable for a while, and they still make less.

And we DO hire below GS-7. We have GS-4s and GS-5s. There are actually a lot of GS-5s in the DC area in my agency. Ironically they're usually public facing and therefore the least likely to be remote or even teleworkers, so they live with roommates long, long after college. (Yes. College educated people taking GS-5 jobs. It's real!)

So I would just say the assumption that every fed household makes $170-220k is a bit rosy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They really hate us!

Federal employees who telework at least once a week would lose locality pay under a new House bill. Under the Federal Employee Return to Work Act, teleworking employees would receive "Rest of U.S." locality pay even if they live and work in a region with a higher cost of living. Rep. Dan Newhouse introduced the bill. He and Sen. Bill Cassidy led the bill during the last session of Congress.
(Newhouse leads legislation to send federal employees back to work - Rep. Dan Newhouse)

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-newscast/2025/01/federal-workers-who-telework-one-day-a-week-could-lose-locality-pay/

I will read the rest of the thread later, but yes, I hate you. I am one of your neighbors who moved not too long ago. I find government workers to be insufferable in their self importance. I hope he finds a way to downsize government and get rid of the bloat, and this is plenty, we all now that, including you.

Your post says more about the type of person you are rather than anything bad about government workers. You have some SERIOUS problems.

+1 therapy or go back to school if you feel so insignificant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They really hate us!

Federal employees who telework at least once a week would lose locality pay under a new House bill. Under the Federal Employee Return to Work Act, teleworking employees would receive "Rest of U.S." locality pay even if they live and work in a region with a higher cost of living. Rep. Dan Newhouse introduced the bill. He and Sen. Bill Cassidy led the bill during the last session of Congress.
(Newhouse leads legislation to send federal employees back to work - Rep. Dan Newhouse)

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-newscast/2025/01/federal-workers-who-telework-one-day-a-week-could-lose-locality-pay/

I will read the rest of the thread later, but yes, I hate you. I am one of your neighbors who moved not too long ago. I find government workers to be insufferable in their self importance. I hope he finds a way to downsize government and get rid of the bloat, and this is plenty, we all now that, including you.

I really hope you lose your job this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m one of the few feds who hates teleworking, partly because I work on classified projects.

I used to to these and got a new fed job.

[Anonymous]

Just let them complain about traffic next.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather loose locality pay to be able to telework at least one day a week or rather keep locality pay and return to work 5 days a week?

I'd personally go in, because, no joke, the difference is 30k but 90% of my agency is not DC area, we're all 50 states. We hired hundreds of people entirely remotely.

this is what makes me laugh. my DH is a FED, we live in DC and less than 10 miles from his agency (15-20 min by car), he was doing some remote work already before covid (like 2 days week) and totally remote since 2020. we could not care less if he has to go back, he will. But people who were hired from red states far away, they are going to be screwed. some GOP rants about moving feds out of DC and dont realize the easier way is for jobs that can be remote to be remote so people from anywhere can be hired. so this is screwing the people from the very states these GOP reprs and senators are from. and I dont even mention that my DH's agency, in the middle of nowhere MD, does not have space and parking space for the number of employees so if everybody is 100% back in the office there is an issue where people are going to sit and how they get there if they cannot park anywhere. but hey, while the billionaires screw the country and increase the debt to unsustainable levels damaging everybody, the GOP needs some scapegoats to channel people's rage and as immigrants, trans, Muslims, the welfare queens may not be enough, they need to throw in the feds too, spending their time taking bubble baths and working 1-2 hours a day for a lavish amount of money funded by hardworking middle America that struggle from pay check to paycheck while working on site 12hr a day (cit. Joni Ernst)

Most of the feds are living in cheap 1 hour away areas like pg county

Yup. You try supporting a family on 100k with a reasonable commute to DC, if you didn't buy a house 10 years ago. Parts of PG county are pretty close in, but lots of us live places like Frederick, Woodbridge, Fredericksburg, etc. Telework helped us balance relatively low salaries (most feds aren't lawyers at the SEC) with, you know, having a life. It's even harder to move close on a fed salary than it was before covid.

I am sick about hearing that you get paid so little, sick to death of it. So what! Get a second job to increase your quality of life and [b]stop sponging off of taxpayers with your continuous whining about the sacrifices you make for us. I hope they take your pensions away too.

This is incoherent. How does whining = sponging off of taxpayers?

You realize we are taxpayers too, right?

Also, who would you like to deliver your government services? And for what cost? Are you willing to do such work? Or are you an elite, too-good jerk who is sponging off of public servants?