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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would you rather loose locality pay to be able to telework at least one day a week or rather keep locality pay and return to work 5 days a week?[/quote]

I'd personally go in, because, no joke, the difference is 30k but 90% of my agency is not DC area, we're all 50 states.  We hired hundreds of people entirely remotely.[/quote]

this is what makes me laugh. my DH is a FED, we live in DC and less than 10 miles from his agency (15-20 min by car), he was doing some remote work already before covid (like 2 days week) and totally remote since 2020. we could not care less if he has to go back, he will. But people who were hired from red states far away, they are going to be screwed. some GOP rants about moving feds out of DC and dont realize the easier way is for jobs that can be remote to be remote so people from anywhere can be hired. so this is screwing the people from the very states these GOP reprs and senators are from. and I dont even mention that my DH's agency, in the middle of nowhere MD, does not have space and parking space for the number of employees so if everybody is 100% back in the office there is an issue where people are going to sit and how they get there if they cannot park anywhere. but hey, while the billionaires screw the country and increase the debt to unsustainable levels damaging everybody, the GOP needs some scapegoats to channel people's rage and as immigrants, trans, Muslims, the welfare queens may not be enough, they need to throw in the feds too, spending their time taking bubble baths and working 1-2 hours a day for a lavish amount of money funded by hardworking middle America that struggle from pay check to paycheck while working on site 12hr a day (cit. Joni Ernst)  [/quote]

Most of the feds are living in cheap 1 hour away areas like pg county [/quote]

Yup. You try supporting a family on 100k with a reasonable commute to DC, if you didn't buy a house 10 years ago. Parts of PG county are pretty close in, but lots of us live places like Frederick, Woodbridge, Fredericksburg, etc. Telework helped us balance relatively low salaries (most feds aren't lawyers at the SEC) with, you know, having a life. It's even harder to move close on a fed salary than it was before covid. [/quote]

As a fed, how does your family make 100k? A GS7, step 1 makes $57,164 and we don't hire below a GS7 (interns are lower). Two GS7s would still be making $114k and your income would increase yearly.

I agree that most feds are not GS 15. Most are likely GS11s, which make $84-109k. It's not that hard to live on double that salary with both people working. [/quote]

A new GS-12 makes 100k. That's solid mid-career level in my agency, often supervisory. And not everyone is married to an equal earner - we have made life decisions around housing based on just one income because my spouse's career was unstable for a while, and they still make less.

And we DO hire below GS-7. We have GS-4s and GS-5s. There are actually a lot of GS-5s in the DC area in my agency. Ironically they're usually public facing and therefore the least likely to be remote or even teleworkers, so they live with roommates long, long after college. (Yes. College educated people taking GS-5 jobs. It's real!)

So I would just say the assumption that every fed household makes $170-220k is a bit rosy. [/quote]

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