UChicago ED

[Anonymous]

20000 ED applications. Even with your 1200 guess that is 6% ED acceptance rate. Last year was 4.8% overall. The math math. Your 40% guess is not plausible much less possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UChicago gets a lot of hate here because it is impossible to fake being smart and diligent. You either work or you fail out. You’re either smart or you’re in trouble. Students study there, they don’t skip class and start “businesses” and do protests. In other words it’s an old school university. Add their commitment to neutrality (read, we are not a domestic front for Hamas) and you have a toxic place for most DCUM politerati.

You can be an absolute idiot and get through their biz Econ program. It’s not anywhere as difficult as it used to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… last year, they had 20,000 applicants for their ED1/EA round with a total of 4-5 % acceptance rate (info from admitted students zoom in December, shortly after ED/EA decisions released).

CDS shows they had a total of 40K plus applicants for about 1600 total admits.

Can someone do the math on this on how they are able to have a 40% ED admit rate?

The math would be, they have 4,000 ED applicants and 16,000 EA applicants. All 1600 admits are admitted through ED, with zero through EA or RD. The result would be a 40% ED admissions rate, and 0% for EA and RD.

Obviously in reality they admit a handful of kids off the waitlist. I’ve never heard of anyone getting in RD or EA, but maybe that’s just in my neighborhood. If you generously assume 400 students are admitted through non binding rounds, with 1200 admitted through ED, then if there are only 3,000 ED applications (and 17,000 EA) you could still, consistent with the numbers the Dean gave you on the zoom, have a 40% ED admit rate.

except... my kid got in EA last year. And while immensely intelligent, did not cure cancer so surely he was not that prodigy standout that would've bucked the odds of zero percent acceptance rate on EA. Also, we are neither full pay nor the token poor kid. Just your regular ol white middle class family that needs some aid but not enough to pad their PELL eligible population.

I am truly fascinated by the amount of mental gymnastics that people would do just to show that the school does.... what exactly? "sHaDY adMissIons PrActiCes" that yields what? The type of students any other school would want in their schools anyway. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UChicago gets a lot of hate here because it is impossible to fake being smart and diligent. You either work or you fail out. You’re either smart or you’re in trouble. Students study there, they don’t skip class and start “businesses” and do protests. In other words it’s an old school university. Add their commitment to neutrality (read, we are not a domestic front for Hamas) and you have a toxic place for most DCUM politerati.

You can be an absolute idiot and get through their biz Econ program. It’s not anywhere as difficult as it used to be.

I'm not a Chicago booster, but I'm not sure about "absolute idiot." Genius, no, but you still have to be reasonably smart and willing to work hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:20000 ED applications. Even with your 1200 guess that is 6% ED acceptance rate. Last year was 4.8% overall. The math math. Your 40% guess is not plausible much less possible.

Our school is something of a Chicago feeder. The ED accept rate is 30%. No more no less. Naviance shows 21 "serious" ED applicants over the past 4 years and 7 were admitted. (By "serious" I mean ones who seemed plausibly qualified. I tossed a few that had averages so low it undoubtedly put them out of consideration immediately.

The EA accept rate is around 10% fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:20000 ED applications. Even with your 1200 guess that is 6% ED acceptance rate. Last year was 4.8% overall. The math math. Your 40% guess is not plausible much less possible.

Our school is something of a Chicago feeder. The ED accept rate is 30%. No more no less. Naviance shows 21 "serious" ED applicants over the past 4 years and 7 were admitted. (By "serious" I mean ones who seemed plausibly qualified. I tossed a few that had averages so low it undoubtedly put them out of consideration immediately.

The EA accept rate is around 10% fwiw.

So they like certain schools. A 30% ED acceptance rate coming from your school is not the same as 40% ED acceptance rate overall.

[Anonymous]

Only two acceptances over the past seven years from our high school. Guess they really don't like us? 😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only two acceptances over the past seven years from our high school. Guess they really don't like us? 😆

They do like their private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… last year, they had 20,000 applicants for their ED1/EA round with a total of 4-5 % acceptance rate (info from admitted students zoom in December, shortly after ED/EA decisions released).

CDS shows they had a total of 40K plus applicants for about 1600 total admits.

Can someone do the math on this on how they are able to have a 40% ED admit rate?

The math would be, they have 4,000 ED applicants and 16,000 EA applicants. All 1600 admits are admitted through ED, with zero through EA or RD. The result would be a 40% ED admissions rate, and 0% for EA and RD.

Obviously in reality they admit a handful of kids off the waitlist. I’ve never heard of anyone getting in RD or EA, but maybe that’s just in my neighborhood. If you generously assume 400 students are admitted through non binding rounds, with 1200 admitted through ED, then if there are only 3,000 ED applications (and 17,000 EA) you could still, consistent with the numbers the Dean gave you on the zoom, have a 40% ED admit rate.

except... my kid got in EA last year. And while immensely intelligent, did not cure cancer so surely he was not that prodigy standout that would've bucked the odds of zero percent acceptance rate on EA. Also, we are neither full pay nor the token poor kid. Just your regular ol white middle class family that needs some aid but not enough to pad their PELL eligible population.

I am truly fascinated by the amount of mental gymnastics that people would do just to show that the school does.... what exactly? "sHaDY adMissIons PrActiCes" that yields what? The type of students any other school would want in their schools anyway. LOL

The school can put all of this mental gymnastics to rest by revealing the numbers but they choose not to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at the ED admitted students day in person last year. This is before RD etc. Dean Nondorf discussed the numbers.

You can suppose and assume for the rest of your days. Nothing will convince you. If you are certain the dean is lying then there you have it. A perfect echo chamber. Good luck in life.

Was also at the meeting. The PP is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… last year, they had 20,000 applicants for their ED1/EA round with a total of 4-5 % acceptance rate (info from admitted students zoom in December, shortly after ED/EA decisions released).

CDS shows they had a total of 40K plus applicants for about 1600 total admits.

Can someone do the math on this on how they are able to have a 40% ED admit rate?

The math would be, they have 4,000 ED applicants and 16,000 EA applicants. All 1600 admits are admitted through ED, with zero through EA or RD. The result would be a 40% ED admissions rate, and 0% for EA and RD.

Obviously in reality they admit a handful of kids off the waitlist. I’ve never heard of anyone getting in RD or EA, but maybe that’s just in my neighborhood. If you generously assume 400 students are admitted through non binding rounds, with 1200 admitted through ED, then if there are only 3,000 ED applications (and 17,000 EA) you could still, consistent with the numbers the Dean gave you on the zoom, have a 40% ED admit rate.

except... my kid got in EA last year. And while immensely intelligent, did not cure cancer so surely he was not that prodigy standout that would've bucked the odds of zero percent acceptance rate on EA. Also, we are neither full pay nor the token poor kid. Just your regular ol white middle class family that needs some aid but not enough to pad their PELL eligible population.

I am truly fascinated by the amount of mental gymnastics that people would do just to show that the school does.... what exactly? "sHaDY adMissIons PrActiCes" that yields what? The type of students any other school would want in their schools anyway. LOL

The school can put all of this mental gymnastics to rest by revealing the numbers but they choose not to.

The Dean of admissions did reveal the numbers during the admitted students event in 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… last year, they had 20,000 applicants for their ED1/EA round with a total of 4-5 % acceptance rate (info from admitted students zoom in December, shortly after ED/EA decisions released).

CDS shows they had a total of 40K plus applicants for about 1600 total admits.

Can someone do the math on this on how they are able to have a 40% ED admit rate?

The math would be, they have 4,000 ED applicants and 16,000 EA applicants. All 1600 admits are admitted through ED, with zero through EA or RD. The result would be a 40% ED admissions rate, and 0% for EA and RD.

Obviously in reality they admit a handful of kids off the waitlist. I’ve never heard of anyone getting in RD or EA, but maybe that’s just in my neighborhood. If you generously assume 400 students are admitted through non binding rounds, with 1200 admitted through ED, then if there are only 3,000 ED applications (and 17,000 EA) you could still, consistent with the numbers the Dean gave you on the zoom, have a 40% ED admit rate.

except... my kid got in EA last year. And while immensely intelligent, did not cure cancer so surely he was not that prodigy standout that would've bucked the odds of zero percent acceptance rate on EA. Also, we are neither full pay nor the token poor kid. Just your regular ol white middle class family that needs some aid but not enough to pad their PELL eligible population.

I am truly fascinated by the amount of mental gymnastics that people would do just to show that the school does.... what exactly? "sHaDY adMissIons PrActiCes" that yields what? The type of students any other school would want in their schools anyway. LOL

The school can put all of this mental gymnastics to rest by revealing the numbers but they choose not to.

It's a T10 school. It doesn't have to.

Supply and demand baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… last year, they had 20,000 applicants for their ED1/EA round with a total of 4-5 % acceptance rate (info from admitted students zoom in December, shortly after ED/EA decisions released).

CDS shows they had a total of 40K plus applicants for about 1600 total admits.

Can someone do the math on this on how they are able to have a 40% ED admit rate?

The math would be, they have 4,000 ED applicants and 16,000 EA applicants. All 1600 admits are admitted through ED, with zero through EA or RD. The result would be a 40% ED admissions rate, and 0% for EA and RD.

Obviously in reality they admit a handful of kids off the waitlist. I’ve never heard of anyone getting in RD or EA, but maybe that’s just in my neighborhood. If you generously assume 400 students are admitted through non binding rounds, with 1200 admitted through ED, then if there are only 3,000 ED applications (and 17,000 EA) you could still, consistent with the numbers the Dean gave you on the zoom, have a 40% ED admit rate.

except... my kid got in EA last year. And while immensely intelligent, did not cure cancer so surely he was not that prodigy standout that would've bucked the odds of zero percent acceptance rate on EA. Also, we are neither full pay nor the token poor kid. Just your regular ol white middle class family that needs some aid but not enough to pad their PELL eligible population.

I am truly fascinated by the amount of mental gymnastics that people would do just to show that the school does.... what exactly? "sHaDY adMissIons PrActiCes" that yields what? The type of students any other school would want in their schools anyway. LOL

The school can put all of this mental gymnastics to rest by revealing the numbers but they choose not to.

Pretty sure the school doesn’t really care about this very-online debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:20000 ED applications. Even with your 1200 guess that is 6% ED acceptance rate. Last year was 4.8% overall. The math math. Your 40% guess is not plausible much less possible.

you cant do math. the irony. no one is assuming 20k ED I applications. Chicago gets far fewer likely under 4k

[Anonymous]

The fundamental problem with UChicago's ED process is there is zero transparency.

It's hard to fault schools like Emory which divulge all of their ED stats with Oxford, or BU which has spring admits, or NEU which has NEU in, or NYU which accepts ED students into the LS program, where those schools are at least transparent in how they treat their ED applicants.

It's another story where smoke and mirrors are used to obfuscate the truth to the point where no one knows the real answer, even with a diligent search and reasonable inquiry That's where UChicago falls short.