Do you think DOGE will eliminate remote policy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple of things it may be worth getting straight:

1. DOGE won't "do" anything. At best, it will make recommendations to the Trump Administration. It will be the Trump Administration via OPM/OMB/GAO and appointed agency heads that make the change.
2. Of course it is impossible to make every single fed report to a physical location overnight. There is nuance and complication. OPM/GAO exist to work through those kinds of complications.
3. Any Fed with an assigned office space can expect to be reporting most if not every day per week come March at the latest.
4. Feds in different situations will be relatively safe for several months at least. Some will never return, others will after office lease, office reconfiguration, etc.
5. Those who have been fully remote since before the pandemic are the most safe.

GAO is an independent agency ant not within the executive branch of the government. Trump has no control. And actually GAO is the agency with the responsibilities and mandates that this DOGE shadow agency is supposed to manage.

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to try. That's for sure. They are going to try to make everyone's life as miserable as possible.

I think some of it is needed to shake up the tree. Feds have been too comfortable and mediocre for a long time.

This.
There is no doubt that there are plenty of dedicated, hardworking, and talented feds. But you're lying to yourself if you think there's not a contingency that's lazy and milking the system. Performance management is difficult at best, so if we can get some of the lazy ones moved on with the threat of RTO and job cuts, then why not.

I totally agree. I think the solution isn’t 5 days in the office. Maybe it’s tracking software for managers and making it easier to fire slackers.

I have one employee that works just hard enough to skate by but mostly does no work. He’s been on PIPs and it took a lot of work for me to get him there but HR won’t let me fire him. I spend so much time managing that and it also brings down the morale of other employees.

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to try. That's for sure. They are going to try to make everyone's life as miserable as possible.

I think some of it is needed to shake up the tree. Feds have been too comfortable and mediocre for a long time.

This.
There is no doubt that there are plenty of dedicated, hardworking, and talented feds. But you're lying to yourself if you think there's not a contingency that's lazy and milking the system. Performance management is difficult at best, so if we can get some of the lazy ones moved on with the threat of RTO and job cuts, then why not.

This move would not be targeted at poor performers though. Vivek explicitly said that.

How will Vivek be evaluating Fed performance? Appraisals? Comical..

No. He said he doesn’t care about performance and he said that there are good fed employees but that they need to go anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple of things it may be worth getting straight:

1. DOGE won't "do" anything. At best, it will make recommendations to the Trump Administration. It will be the Trump Administration via OPM/OMB/GAO and appointed agency heads that make the change.
2. Of course it is impossible to make every single fed report to a physical location overnight. There is nuance and complication. OPM/GAO exist to work through those kinds of complications.
3. Any Fed with an assigned office space can expect to be reporting most if not every day per week come March at the latest.
4. Feds in different situations will be relatively safe for several months at least. Some will never return, others will after office lease, office reconfiguration, etc.
5. Those who have been fully remote since before the pandemic are the most safe.

GAO is an independent agency ant not within the executive branch of the government. Trump has no control. And actually GAO is the agency with the responsibilities and mandates that this DOGE shadow agency is supposed to manage.

You’re right, my typo/mistake. I meant to refer to GSA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to try. That's for sure. They are going to try to make everyone's life as miserable as possible.

I think some of it is needed to shake up the tree. Feds have been too comfortable and mediocre for a long time.

This.
There is no doubt that there are plenty of dedicated, hardworking, and talented feds. But you're lying to yourself if you think there's not a contingency that's lazy and milking the system. Performance management is difficult at best, so if we can get some of the lazy ones moved on with the threat of RTO and job cuts, then why not.

This move would not be targeted at poor performers though. Vivek explicitly said that.

How will Vivek be evaluating Fed performance? Appraisals? Comical..

No. He said he doesn’t care about performance and he said that there are good fed employees but that they need to go anyway.

How can we fire Vivek?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to try. That's for sure. They are going to try to make everyone's life as miserable as possible.

I think some of it is needed to shake up the tree. Feds have been too comfortable and mediocre for a long time.

This.
There is no doubt that there are plenty of dedicated, hardworking, and talented feds. But you're lying to yourself if you think there's not a contingency that's lazy and milking the system. Performance management is difficult at best, so if we can get some of the lazy ones moved on with the threat of RTO and job cuts, then why not.

This move would not be targeted at poor performers though. Vivek explicitly said that.

How will Vivek be evaluating Fed performance? Appraisals? Comical..

No. He said he doesn’t care about performance and he said that there are good fed employees but that they need to go anyway.

How can we fire Vivek?

?? Win next election? Dems are so f'ed worrying about DEI and bathroom situation.

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to try. That's for sure. They are going to try to make everyone's life as miserable as possible.

I think some of it is needed to shake up the tree. Feds have been too comfortable and mediocre for a long time.

This.
There is no doubt that there are plenty of dedicated, hardworking, and talented feds. But you're lying to yourself if you think there's not a contingency that's lazy and milking the system. Performance management is difficult at best, so if we can get some of the lazy ones moved on with the threat of RTO and job cuts, then why not.

This move would not be targeted at poor performers though. Vivek explicitly said that.

How will Vivek be evaluating Fed performance? Appraisals? Comical..

No. He said he doesn’t care about performance and he said that there are good fed employees but that they need to go anyway.

How can we fire Vivek?

?? Win next election? Dems are so f'ed worrying about DEI and bathroom situation.

Dems aren’t worried about bathrooms. That would be solely the concern of the right. They are the ones constantly freaking out but this is off topic

[Anonymous]

Yes

[Anonymous]

I’m beginning to think it’s all a lot of talk. I mean how effective was his last presidency

[Anonymous]

Any RTO mandate will have so many loopholes and exceptions, it’ll look like Swiss cheese — Ad hoc telework, medical exceptions, in office for half day is sufficient, etc etc. And in the end, things won’t be much different than now.

But DOGE can claim victory and move on. And the maga public won’t know the difference.

Do you know who’s really screwed? MANAGERS and HR staff, who will spend 90 pct of their day implementing (or PRETENDING to implement) this crap and addressing exception requests and reviewing badge data, etc.

What a stupid policy.

[Anonymous]

Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.

[Anonymous]

Dictator
What is confusing about that word?
We have no law enforcement
They will use the military
You are going back to work in office and or no job. They are going to fire over a million gov workers. Watch.... I am not wrong you are not listening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.

Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.

Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.

I like my current job just fine. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just focus on senior folks that are barely performing and push them out of the door. They are the most expensive and least productive.

Yes, but they're always quick to scream age discrimination. They know they won't be able to get a different job.

I like my current job just fine. Thank you.

I'm sure you do, just as I'm sure your manager is hoping you retire.