Yondr pouch pilot program at some MS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Yeah sure, this is way more likely than them just getting distracted by the phone every single day in class . School shootings are actually quite rare. And I’m a teacher so I’m just as at risk as your kid should one come to pass but that is very, very unlikely. We have to actually focus on real learning 10 months a year for thousands of kids in the building, not the one extreme outlier event exception that will almost certainly never happen.

This is not the way to do it. Tell your admin to keep trying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Yeah sure, this is way more likely than them just getting distracted by the phone every single day in class . School shootings are actually quite rare. And I’m a teacher so I’m just as at risk as your kid should one come to pass but that is very, very unlikely. We have to actually focus on real learning 10 months a year for thousands of kids in the building, not the one extreme outlier event exception that will almost certainly never happen.

This is not the way to do it. Tell your admin to keep trying.

No, I think a pilot is worth trying. It’s better than nothing. If it goes bad we come up with another idea. (This isn’t even my school.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Yeah sure, this is way more likely than them just getting distracted by the phone every single day in class . School shootings are actually quite rare. And I’m a teacher so I’m just as at risk as your kid should one come to pass but that is very, very unlikely. We have to actually focus on real learning 10 months a year for thousands of kids in the building, not the one extreme outlier event exception that will almost certainly never happen.

This is not the way to do it. Tell your admin to keep trying.

No, I think a pilot is worth trying. It’s better than nothing. If it goes bad we come up with another idea. (This isn’t even my school.)

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But my school is piloting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Yeah sure, this is way more likely than them just getting distracted by the phone every single day in class . School shootings are actually quite rare. And I’m a teacher so I’m just as at risk as your kid should one come to pass but that is very, very unlikely. We have to actually focus on real learning 10 months a year for thousands of kids in the building, not the one extreme outlier event exception that will almost certainly never happen.

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I am not going to try to reach you during a school shooting, just my child. My kid is not your problem. You should figure out how to discipline the ones that are instead of the entire population. And between all the new the religious observations days that don't allow teaching, weeks of teaching only towards standardized tests, then the testing days and then watching movies and doing busy work from May thru June, You aren't teaching a solid 10 months of the year.

[Anonymous]

I am fine with middle schoolers just not being allowed to bring phones to school at all, or keeping them in a pouch or whatever.

Can we get rid of laptops, too. They are horrible for attention spans? Please bring back real books and writing on paper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Sorry, in an actual emergency, 2000 phones will do more harm than good. They have plenty of ways to alert the Main Office abut they see something. Calling your child to say I Love You is special but not a balance with the disruptions teenagers with phones cause.

[Anonymous]

Mine will have a phone so they can record fights and not be blamed for them.

[Anonymous]

Have they announced which high schools this will be in?

[Anonymous]

Do they make yonder pouches for laptops? I’d be on board for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's an idea. Buy a few yondr pouches for each school. Kid is caught using their phone during the school day, it goes in the yondr pouch for the rest of the day. Kid is caught using it a second time, goes in the pouch every day for a month. Third time, yondr pouch for the rest of the year. This should satisfy the "what about a school shooter" objectors. Teach your kid if they want the privilege of using their phone during a school shooter, never get caught using it before then. It would also give kid one "free" use of their phone because pouch for a day no big deal--but better save up that one free use for when you really need it.

This would require common sense, clearly the district has zero common sense.

Guys it’s a PILOT. That’s what they’re trying to figure out - how to do it best countywide. They didn’t already buy 215,000 pouches

If they were ACTUALLY interested in figuring out the best way they’d be collecting data on phone usage for at least a few months with no intervention, with current (last school years) intervention, and they’d have different phases of novel intervention across different schools trying different methods- not just a pouch. They would stagger interventions within and across schools. Then they’d actually look at what works and what doesn’t work and choose based on the data.

This is just a slow roll out for Yondr.

Probably to line someone’s pockets.

They already have that information from the last school year.

SMH

I’m waiting to see it posted on the website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine will have a phone so they can record fights and not be blamed for them.

If your kid is getting blamed for fights, they are doing something wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey FCPS, what % of students actually use their phones at times they shouldn’t? Certainly you have that information since you’re implementing pilot programs to decrease it…

My sense from my students is about 80%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.

What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.

They can reach me and/or police to alert of an active shooter. I can also contact them to see if they are alive and to say I love you before they get shot and die. Perfectly valid reasons.

Yeah sure, this is way more likely than them just getting distracted by the phone every single day in class . School shootings are actually quite rare. And I’m a teacher so I’m just as at risk as your kid should one come to pass but that is very, very unlikely. We have to actually focus on real learning 10 months a year for thousands of kids in the building, not the one extreme outlier event exception that will almost certainly never happen.

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I am not going to try to reach you during a school shooting, just my child. My kid is not your problem. You should figure out how to discipline the ones that are instead of the entire population. And between all the new the religious observations days that don't allow teaching, weeks of teaching only towards standardized tests, then the testing days and then watching movies and doing busy work from May thru June, You aren't teaching a solid 10 months of the year.

Your kid legitimately is my problem. At school, while learning, OR in a school shooting. I’m not even addressing the rest of your comment because the opening premise is beyond ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine will have a phone so they can record fights and not be blamed for them.

If your kid is getting blamed for fights, they are doing something wrong.

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