Saving seats on SWA

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.

And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.

Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.

What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.

On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.

If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.

So you selfishly take an aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.

Think this through.

Why would a family traveling with a child with a disability need to sit in the aisle seat.

Think carefully I’m sure it’s going to come to you.

Does the kid need to run up and down the aisle? Good thing the fasten seat belt sign is on for most of the flight.

The kid might need emergency medical attention you dolt, and pulling them over the person in the aisle to administer oxygen or injectable drugs isn’t fun for anyone.

Is the person on the aisle in a coma? They can easily get up, dolt. Think it through.

Yeah? And if they’re sleeping on a night flight they’ll get up right away? You are willing to bet your child’s life on that? Cause I’m sure not.

You seem like one of those ladies who spends hours a day on the internet arguing about disability accomodations. Am I wrong?

You are. There’s no real need to argue in 99% of cases— the ADA is clear about what a reasonable accommodation is.
Everything else is just people being angry because their socioeconomic position doesn’t allow them to fly in a more comfortable way.

But someone thinking airlines should assign staff to make sure a kid with a walker or a grandmother with an 02 tank gets off last? That’s just sick.

It's sick to make sure people can get off safely without standing in a crowded aisle? Get real, you and your kid aren't that disabled you just want first one, first off, because it's nice.

We don’t get first off. We get first on. We get off with our row.

If we needed first off for some reason and it was considered a reasonable accommodation we would use it. It’s very strange that you think it should be someone’s job to keep disabled people sitting on a plane, especially on Southwest where it’s worse for everyone. Have you considered flying business class on an airline that assigns seats? You’ll get on first and off first.

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I'm sick of flying because the utter selfishness of humanity today makes it awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.

And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.

Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.

What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.

On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.

If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.

So you selfishly take an aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.

Think this through.

Why would a family traveling with a child with a disability need to sit in the aisle seat.

Think carefully I’m sure it’s going to come to you.

Does the kid need to run up and down the aisle? Good thing the fasten seat belt sign is on for most of the flight.

The kid might need emergency medical attention you dolt, and pulling them over the person in the aisle to administer oxygen or injectable drugs isn’t fun for anyone.

Is the person on the aisle in a coma? They can easily get up, dolt. Think it through.

Yeah? And if they’re sleeping on a night flight they’ll get up right away? You are willing to bet your child’s life on that? Cause I’m sure not.

You seem like one of those ladies who spends hours a day on the internet arguing about disability accomodations. Am I wrong?

You are. There’s no real need to argue in 99% of cases— the ADA is clear about what a reasonable accommodation is.
Everything else is just people being angry because their socioeconomic position doesn’t allow them to fly in a more comfortable way.

But someone thinking airlines should assign staff to make sure a kid with a walker or a grandmother with an 02 tank gets off last? That’s just sick.

It's sick to make sure people can get off safely without standing in a crowded aisle? Get real, you and your kid aren't that disabled you just want first one, first off, because it's nice.

We don’t get first off. We get first on. We get off with our row.

If we needed first off for some reason and it was considered a reasonable accommodation we would use it. It’s very strange that you think it should be someone’s job to keep disabled people sitting on a plane, especially on Southwest where it’s worse for everyone. Have you considered flying business class on an airline that assigns seats? You’ll get on first and off first.

I don't think you fly very much. They do make wheelchair users wait until everyone is off. Also unaccompanied minors. Strange that you think this logical safety measure doesn't happen. This is when the fakers get up and walk off, because they don't actually need to wait for that wheelchair and want FIFO.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.

And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.

Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.

What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.

On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.

If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.

So you selfishly take an aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.

Think this through.

Why would a family traveling with a child with a disability need to sit in the aisle seat.

Think carefully I’m sure it’s going to come to you.

Does the kid need to run up and down the aisle? Good thing the fasten seat belt sign is on for most of the flight.

The kid might need emergency medical attention you dolt, and pulling them over the person in the aisle to administer oxygen or injectable drugs isn’t fun for anyone.

Is the person on the aisle in a coma? They can easily get up, dolt. Think it through.

Yeah? And if they’re sleeping on a night flight they’ll get up right away? You are willing to bet your child’s life on that? Cause I’m sure not.

You seem like one of those ladies who spends hours a day on the internet arguing about disability accomodations. Am I wrong?

You are. There’s no real need to argue in 99% of cases— the ADA is clear about what a reasonable accommodation is.
Everything else is just people being angry because their socioeconomic position doesn’t allow them to fly in a more comfortable way.

But someone thinking airlines should assign staff to make sure a kid with a walker or a grandmother with an 02 tank gets off last? That’s just sick.

It's sick to make sure people can get off safely without standing in a crowded aisle? Get real, you and your kid aren't that disabled you just want first one, first off, because it's nice.

We don’t get first off. We get first on. We get off with our row.

If we needed first off for some reason and it was considered a reasonable accommodation we would use it. It’s very strange that you think it should be someone’s job to keep disabled people sitting on a plane, especially on Southwest where it’s worse for everyone. Have you considered flying business class on an airline that assigns seats? You’ll get on first and off first.

I don't think you fly very much. They do make wheelchair users wait until everyone is off. Also unaccompanied minors. Strange that you think this logical safety measure doesn't happen. This is when the fakers get up and walk off, because they don't actually need to wait for that wheelchair and want FIFO.

Wheelchair users are not all disabled people who preboard. If you’ve read about people being abandoned on planes without their wheelchairs coming for them, I’m not surprised some people who board in wheelchairs do not wait for them on the way out. It’s still wholly unnecessary to have all pre-boarders wait to the end.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.

And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.

Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.

What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.

On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.

If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.

So you selfishly take an aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.

Think this through.

Why would a family traveling with a child with a disability need to sit in the aisle seat.

Think carefully I’m sure it’s going to come to you.

Does the kid need to run up and down the aisle? Good thing the fasten seat belt sign is on for most of the flight.

The kid might need emergency medical attention you dolt, and pulling them over the person in the aisle to administer oxygen or injectable drugs isn’t fun for anyone.

Is the person on the aisle in a coma? They can easily get up, dolt. Think it through.

Yeah? And if they’re sleeping on a night flight they’ll get up right away? You are willing to bet your child’s life on that? Cause I’m sure not.

You seem like one of those ladies who spends hours a day on the internet arguing about disability accomodations. Am I wrong?

You are. There’s no real need to argue in 99% of cases— the ADA is clear about what a reasonable accommodation is.
Everything else is just people being angry because their socioeconomic position doesn’t allow them to fly in a more comfortable way.

But someone thinking airlines should assign staff to make sure a kid with a walker or a grandmother with an 02 tank gets off last? That’s just sick.

It's sick to make sure people can get off safely without standing in a crowded aisle? Get real, you and your kid aren't that disabled you just want first one, first off, because it's nice.

We don’t get first off. We get first on. We get off with our row.

If we needed first off for some reason and it was considered a reasonable accommodation we would use it. It’s very strange that you think it should be someone’s job to keep disabled people sitting on a plane, especially on Southwest where it’s worse for everyone. Have you considered flying business class on an airline that assigns seats? You’ll get on first and off first.

I don't think you fly very much. They do make wheelchair users wait until everyone is off. Also unaccompanied minors. Strange that you think this logical safety measure doesn't happen. This is when the fakers get up and walk off, because they don't actually need to wait for that wheelchair and want FIFO.

Wheelchair users are not all disabled people who preboard. If you’ve read about people being abandoned on planes without their wheelchairs coming for them, I’m not surprised some people who board in wheelchairs do not wait for them on the way out. It’s still wholly unnecessary to have all pre-boarders wait to the end.

Nobody said preboarders have to wait. That would include families with young kids, business select, veterans and plenty of able bodied people. But the people who require extra time, like wheelchair users, do have to wait for reasons that make a lot of sense. And you don't know if your wheelchair is there or not until you're on the jetbridge. You don't seem to understand how any of this works, frankly. When was the last time you even flew?

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.

And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.

Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.

What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.

On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.

If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.

So you selfishly take an aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.

Think this through.

Why would a family traveling with a child with a disability need to sit in the aisle seat.

Think carefully I’m sure it’s going to come to you.

Does the kid need to run up and down the aisle? Good thing the fasten seat belt sign is on for most of the flight.

The kid might need emergency medical attention you dolt, and pulling them over the person in the aisle to administer oxygen or injectable drugs isn’t fun for anyone.

Is the person on the aisle in a coma? They can easily get up, dolt. Think it through.

Yeah? And if they’re sleeping on a night flight they’ll get up right away? You are willing to bet your child’s life on that? Cause I’m sure not.

You seem like one of those ladies who spends hours a day on the internet arguing about disability accomodations. Am I wrong?

You are. There’s no real need to argue in 99% of cases— the ADA is clear about what a reasonable accommodation is.
Everything else is just people being angry because their socioeconomic position doesn’t allow them to fly in a more comfortable way.

But someone thinking airlines should assign staff to make sure a kid with a walker or a grandmother with an 02 tank gets off last? That’s just sick.

This is not remotely true, and because every business interprets reasonable differently and has different (or no) requirements for documentation, there are many many many fakers out there. The fact that you think you need some sort of paperwork to preboard on Southwest (or any airline) makes me think you don't even fly.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

It's probably the same Disney disability scammers who have no qualms about lying about a "disability" to get an unearned privilege. It's not a way I would choose to live my life, we can just feel sorry for those people since their lives are just that small and pathetic and this is the one chance they get to feel important.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

It's probably the same Disney disability scammers who have no qualms about lying about a "disability" to get an unearned privilege. It's not a way I would choose to live my life, we can just feel sorry for those people since their lives are just that small and pathetic and this is the one chance they get to feel important.

The probably with the Disney folks, and with preboard angry Mom on this thread is that they get SO used to getting not just reasonable accommodations, but often premium accommodations for free, that when a business determines the premium accommodation is unsustainable to their business and they need to dial it back to something more reasonable, they lose their entitled minds. The courts have already sided with Disney that accommodations do not have to be the best possible nor do they have to offer something detrimental to their business model.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.

SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.

This is the person who said all preorders for disabilities need to get off last.
Take it up with her.

The fakers are the people with the wheelchairs. That's been consistent throughout this thread. What else is anyone "faking" that isn't obvious?

There are tons of fakers not in wheelchairs. You don't need a wheelchair to preboard. I'm not going to give you a step by step manual how to fake it. (DP)

However, the ADA does not define what a "reasonable accomodation" is. That is left up to the businesses. And if SW decides that preboarders can't sit in the bulkheads, or the first five rows or whatever, that is fine. If PP doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.

It's probably the same Disney disability scammers who have no qualms about lying about a "disability" to get an unearned privilege. It's not a way I would choose to live my life, we can just feel sorry for those people since their lives are just that small and pathetic and this is the one chance they get to feel important.

The probably with the Disney folks, and with preboard angry Mom on this thread is that they get SO used to getting not just reasonable accommodations, but often premium accommodations for free, that when a business determines the premium accommodation is unsustainable to their business and they need to dial it back to something more reasonable, they lose their entitled minds. The courts have already sided with Disney that accommodations do not have to be the best possible nor do they have to offer something detrimental to their business model.

You nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.

I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”

There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.

If you all want specific seats (together) why isn’t everyone in the group boarding together?

Parents are entitled to sit with children without paying more for it.

No they’re not. Want to sit together? You pay for it. I don’t care if it’s your kid, spouse or friend. You pay

I’m afraid the Department of Transportation disagrees with you.

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/airline-family-seating-dashboard

To wit:

A parent who purchases airline tickets for a family should receive a guarantee from the airline that it will seat the parent and child together without fees or a last-minute scramble at the gate or having to ask other passengers to give up their seat to allow the parent and child to sit together.

That doesn’t mean you can board early and save seats for others.

The designated parent who is entitled to sit with their kids should get the upgrade and board *with* the kids. Then the other parent will just get whatever seat they can if they don’t upgrade.

Or you should fly a regular airline if you all really want to sit together.

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I flew this week.
Coming home last night from Vegas (Big Volleyball tournament), star volleyball player (and dad) boarded early due to "disabilty" - she looked fine standing there for 30 minutes as the flight was delayed boarding.
They saved an entire row - 6 seats.
When someone asked to sit in the window seat - the dad said that someone was sitting there.
The person he saved the seat for was boarding position C17.
How do I know? I was sitting behind them and overheard the conversations.

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Anonymous wrote:I flew this week.
Coming home last night from Vegas (Big Volleyball tournament), star volleyball player (and dad) boarded early due to "disabilty" - she looked fine standing there for 30 minutes as the flight was delayed boarding.
They saved an entire row - 6 seats.
When someone asked to sit in the window seat - the dad said that someone was sitting there.
The person he saved the seat for was boarding position C17.
How do I know? I was sitting behind them and overheard the conversations.

Yes, I agree that this happens. The problem is that nothing this family did is against ANY rule that Southwest has.