AP Tests this week, how are we feeling?

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Anonymous wrote:My senior took five last year, got four 5s and a 4 and anecdotally we think helped get them into the college they are happily committed to. AP scores are huge given grade inflation.

This year barely studying for the five APs they are taking even though they could place out of classes and get credits, way too serious a case of senioritis.

For seniors it doesnt matter but for my sophomore and these juniors it really does

It does matter for getting college credit. I know some schools, Georgetown is one, you need to score a 5 on some tests to get credit.

Most schools it’s a 4 or 5 for credit- and if they don’t give credit for a particular course it still lets you skip some of the intro courses.

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

In 2020, the makeup exam had crazy hard questions. My kid shared them with me when she got home and despite having a graduate degree in the fields I thought they were hard questions.

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

In 2020, the makeup exam had crazy hard questions. My kid shared them with me when she got home and despite having a graduate degree in the fields I thought they were hard questions.

Typic— meant 2021. Maybe 2020 too but I don’t know about that.

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

In 2020, the makeup exam had crazy hard questions. My kid shared them with me when she got home and despite having a graduate degree in the fields I thought they were hard questions.

And yet you didn't see the original test questions, so how can you possible judge if they were in fact harder, or equally difficult?

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

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Anonymous wrote:do the AP scores weight heavily on admissions?

Yes, they do at competitive colleges, especially for competitive majors. Academics typically account for two-thirds of the admission criteria, with minimum unweighted and weighted GPA serving as early filters to narrow down the applicant pool from thousands. The next level of filtering criteria would be the rigor of coursework, with AP-level or post-AP-level coursework given the highest preference. If a student receives an A but does not earn a score of 4 or 5 on the AP exam, it could suggest that the grade was inflated. For STEM majors, rigorous coursework such as Calculus BC, Physics C, Chemistry, AP Language/Literature, etc., can significantly enhance the applicant's profile, particularly if they achieve scores of 5 on these exams.

This is not true. My DS submitted no AP scores and got into a t10.

As far as I know, only Yale is now explicitly taking AP Test scores into account for admissions. They require you to submit either SAT scores or AP Test scores, but not both.

I don't think they care if you have a 1600 and don't submit any AP Test scores.

This might be true, but doesn't seem like a good strategy for people to bank on. There are lots of kids applying to these schools, and millions more are taking AP classes, including those who are unprepared or incapable of success. Just having an AP class on your transcript does not insure that you are capable. If you want to show that you actually are capable, you are wise to take the exams seriously and submit the scores.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid doesn't care at all. He got into the school he wanted already.

How do I feel? I'm spending my time looking at dorm stuff! lol.

Wow - you guys seem like you really value education!

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

I was not talking about these AP courses

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

I was not talking about these AP courses

That was the course above your post. However, there used to be gatekeeping for all AP courses and that is not really true anymore. In some places ALL juniors take AP Lang, etc. It is devalued and slowed down the courses, but it also makes it very unfair for some teachers to be held accountable for scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

There are even prerequisites at our inner city Los Angeles public. Any science AP has to be preceded with at least a "B" grade in the non AP version of that science class. Some humanities AP's are reserved for 11th and 12th graders only and require at least a "B" grade in the previous year's course. Etc and so on. Even AP Art needs 3 years of art prior with high grades.

Saying there are no prerequisites is just some troll blowing hot air out of their ass (again).

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

+1 same. maybe same private.

Other APs need teacher approval and many a writing sample--AP english lit and lang; AP euro history, etc.

My kid had Honors Bio and Honors chem before the AP versions.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

There are even prerequisites at our inner city Los Angeles public. Any science AP has to be preceded with at least a "B" grade in the non AP version of that science class. Some humanities AP's are reserved for 11th and 12th graders only and require at least a "B" grade in the previous year's course. Etc and so on. Even AP Art needs 3 years of art prior with high grades.

Saying there are no prerequisites is just some troll blowing hot air out of their ass (again).

AP Comp specifically has "no prereq" required

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

In 2020, the makeup exam had crazy hard questions. My kid shared them with me when she got home and despite having a graduate degree in the fields I thought they were hard questions.

And yet you didn't see the original test questions, so how can you possible judge if they were in fact harder, or equally difficult?

Not PP but there are scenarios where kids might sit for both the original and makeup exam. For example, if scores for the first exam need to be cancelled for some reason (eg a fire alarm in the middle of the test), those students would see the questions on both the original and the makeup exam.

My own child will be in that exact circumstance for an AP test they took earlier this week.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t care less. My DD is taking 4 AP’s but only one test. Literally don’t care how she does. She’s heading to college in the fall so the score matters not at this point.

It matters if the college allows the kid to skip an intro class if they get a good score on the exam. My senior cancelled all his AP exams except those.

Me again. He studied hard for all the dozen AP courses he took over 4 years. We got him a tutor to prep for some of the exams.

We also have used tutors, especially when the teacher is severely lacking. This year my DD's AP Bio teacher hasn't bothered to cover everything (something she does every single year with dire results).

the teachers should get bonus based on AP test results, there is one in our school where the AP average is 2, yet no one does anything about it, its a dump on the kids, we pay taxes--that is what they are for--quality teachers

If teachers are to be held accountable for AP scores, it's only fair they are allowed to assess and approve students for enrollment in AP-level class. Students who lack the prerequisites would then remain in the non-AP class, which is also supported by your taxes.

There are no prerequisites for this class anywhere, nice try though

Yes, AP Biology is intended as a second year Biology course.

+2 At my kid’s local private school, you must take regular biology first, get a certain grade, and then you can enroll in AP biology junior or senior year. Same with AP Physics and AP Chemistry. They are the second year course.

+1 same. maybe same private.

Other APs need teacher approval and many a writing sample--AP english lit and lang; AP euro history, etc.

My kid had Honors Bio and Honors chem before the AP versions.

Yes, same at the publics. The only APs in the large public system that do not have prereqs/teacher approval are the APs that the elite universities and T5 LACs do not consider rigorous and do not "score" as highly when reviewing the transcript : APHUG, Psych, Compsci.
APs are not equal and scores do matter, especially when no SAT/ACT is submitted, or when the high school is not a known top school by colleges