Republican utopia - Texas!

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know more about why docs did not attempt to induce or do an emergency c before 31 weeks. It was so obvious that her health was going to keep deteriorating


Maybe out of fear of being prosecuted under Texas's laws.


I mean, probably … just wish we knew a little more
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Anonymous wrote:The Woman was sick and dying
She did not have the ability, money, or time to care for herself
Her only option becomes abortion, or death.
The baby’s death was a foregone conclusion in this scenario.
The mother’s death was preventable with an abortion.
Harping on the medical care she should have had isn’t helpful to the woman, once she needs the abortion.
Did her doctors make the likely outcomes clear to her? Doubtful due to the laws in Texas.
Sure she wanted her baby. But there is a point when that pregnancy wasn’t going to result in a healthy baby. Was she made aware of the facts? Was she able to make an informed decision?
Doubtful


She had a loser husband who didn’t do a single thing to help her get the medical insurance she qualified for.

She could have been treated by a high risk ob-gyn 51 miles and had her medications paid for and been in compliance with the treatment she needed. She improved and went downhill again because she was non-compliant with her medication.

Why wasn’t her husband helping her?


I think it is a stretch to conclude he was a loser based on the very little info we have about him. As I posted above, we seem to have about 3 data points from this story and that’s IT. No real conclusions can be drawn from those.


He was a loser. No mention if him helping his wife. He didn’t help her get insurance, he would have been the only person who could have enrolled her in Tricare. He HAD to coordinate that process. She was working while sick to pay for her medication.

Why was he not involved in the saga except to leave town with her car after she died?


Why are you so obsessed with that car?

This man suffered the loss of his wife and their baby. You are just an awful judgmental human being devoid of empathy.


His wife and baby died and the article doesn’t mention once he even attempted to get his wife on Tricare to provide her medical insurance. That fact is completely ignored. Don’t you think the husband of a pregnant woman experiencing pregnancy problems that led to her death from lack of care and needed medication should have tried to help her? She couldn’t submit paperwork to add herself to DEERS to be enrolled in Tricare; that was his job to do.

If you were pregnant and had multiple health issues, and needed medical insurance, and your husband didn’t put you on his health insurance plan, what would you think of him?


The husband did not want to talk to the reporter. So you have no idea what actually went on. Shame on you.


+1 this is what I keep trying to say. We don’t know much at all about him. He didn’t talk to the reporter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would like to know more about why docs did not attempt to induce or do an emergency c before 31 weeks. It was so obvious that her health was going to keep deteriorating


Maybe out of fear of being prosecuted under Texas's laws.


What law would Texas use to prosecute doctors for performing a c section or inducing a woman?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Woman was sick and dying
She did not have the ability, money, or time to care for herself
Her only option becomes abortion, or death.
The baby’s death was a foregone conclusion in this scenario.
The mother’s death was preventable with an abortion.
Harping on the medical care she should have had isn’t helpful to the woman, once she needs the abortion.
Did her doctors make the likely outcomes clear to her? Doubtful due to the laws in Texas.
Sure she wanted her baby. But there is a point when that pregnancy wasn’t going to result in a healthy baby. Was she made aware of the facts? Was she able to make an informed decision?
Doubtful


She had a loser husband who didn’t do a single thing to help her get the medical insurance she qualified for.

She could have been treated by a high risk ob-gyn 51 miles and had her medications paid for and been in compliance with the treatment she needed. She improved and went downhill again because she was non-compliant with her medication.

Why wasn’t her husband helping her?


I think it is a stretch to conclude he was a loser based on the very little info we have about him. As I posted above, we seem to have about 3 data points from this story and that’s IT. No real conclusions can be drawn from those.


He was a loser. No mention if him helping his wife. He didn’t help her get insurance, he would have been the only person who could have enrolled her in Tricare. He HAD to coordinate that process. She was working while sick to pay for her medication.

Why was he not involved in the saga except to leave town with her car after she died?


Why are you so obsessed with that car?

This man suffered the loss of his wife and their baby. You are just an awful judgmental human being devoid of empathy.


His wife and baby died and the article doesn’t mention once he even attempted to get his wife on Tricare to provide her medical insurance. That fact is completely ignored. Don’t you think the husband of a pregnant woman experiencing pregnancy problems that led to her death from lack of care and needed medication should have tried to help her? She couldn’t submit paperwork to add herself to DEERS to be enrolled in Tricare; that was his job to do.

If you were pregnant and had multiple health issues, and needed medical insurance, and your husband didn’t put you on his health insurance plan, what would you think of him?


The husband did not want to talk to the reporter. So you have no idea what actually went on. Shame on you.


+1 this is what I keep trying to say. We don’t know much at all about him. He didn’t talk to the reporter.


We know he was an Army Reserve Soldier. We know he was eligible for Tricare Reserve Select. We know his wife was eligible for Tricare Reserve Select as his dependent. We know foreign born spouses are eligible to be added to DEERS and thus receive Tricare health insurance. We know JAG attorneys will assist-for free- a soldier who needed to navigate the system to add his foreign born spouse to DEERS/Tricare. We know that much.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Woman was sick and dying
She did not have the ability, money, or time to care for herself
Her only option becomes abortion, or death.
The baby’s death was a foregone conclusion in this scenario.
The mother’s death was preventable with an abortion.
Harping on the medical care she should have had isn’t helpful to the woman, once she needs the abortion.
Did her doctors make the likely outcomes clear to her? Doubtful due to the laws in Texas.
Sure she wanted her baby. But there is a point when that pregnancy wasn’t going to result in a healthy baby. Was she made aware of the facts? Was she able to make an informed decision?
Doubtful


She had a loser husband who didn’t do a single thing to help her get the medical insurance she qualified for.

She could have been treated by a high risk ob-gyn 51 miles and had her medications paid for and been in compliance with the treatment she needed. She improved and went downhill again because she was non-compliant with her medication.

Why wasn’t her husband helping her?


I think it is a stretch to conclude he was a loser based on the very little info we have about him. As I posted above, we seem to have about 3 data points from this story and that’s IT. No real conclusions can be drawn from those.


He was a loser. No mention if him helping his wife. He didn’t help her get insurance, he would have been the only person who could have enrolled her in Tricare. He HAD to coordinate that process. She was working while sick to pay for her medication.

Why was he not involved in the saga except to leave town with her car after she died?


Why are you so obsessed with that car?

This man suffered the loss of his wife and their baby. You are just an awful judgmental human being devoid of empathy.


His wife and baby died and the article doesn’t mention once he even attempted to get his wife on Tricare to provide her medical insurance. That fact is completely ignored. Don’t you think the husband of a pregnant woman experiencing pregnancy problems that led to her death from lack of care and needed medication should have tried to help her? She couldn’t submit paperwork to add herself to DEERS to be enrolled in Tricare; that was his job to do.

If you were pregnant and had multiple health issues, and needed medical insurance, and your husband didn’t put you on his health insurance plan, what would you think of him?


The husband did not want to talk to the reporter. So you have no idea what actually went on. Shame on you.


There is a process that every dependent must go through to be registered in DEERS and Tricare. There is a process every woman who is pregnant must go through to determine eligibility and be approved for medicaid coverage for healthcare/medical insurance. Everyone in America has to do things like that to have medical insurance. Why do you think that this woman’s husband didn’t know or care about her lack health insurance? He definitely received information on Tricare Reserve Select when he enlisted. Soldiers receive the information they need and are encouraged to take care of their family’s needs, especially important issues related to medical care.

We don’t need to have the exact details because every American has to complete paperwork, send in healthcare premiums, check their coverage and deductibles, etc, if they have healthcare insurance. Does anyone posting here not do those things?

So if your spouse was dying over a few months time and hospitalized and couldn’t afford their medications, you would not help them obtain medical insurance?
Anonymous
We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.


Everyone is blaming the state of Texas. Texas would have paid for her medicaid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.


Everyone is blaming the state of Texas. Texas would have paid for her medicaid.


I think it didn’t help the situation to be in TX
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.


Everyone is blaming the state of Texas. Texas would have paid for her medicaid.


I think it didn’t help the situation to be in TX


She was having pregnancy complications and had no health insurance. What would have been different in another state?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.


Everyone is blaming the state of Texas. Texas would have paid for her medicaid.


I think it didn’t help the situation to be in TX


She was having pregnancy complications and had no health insurance. What would have been different in another state?


It always better to have all of the information regarding your health.
Women are not entitled to that in Texas.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also know they were both young and possibly did not understand how insurance could help. Maybe they thought the nearly $300 out of his paycheck was too much.

I don’t know what happened there, but there are plenty of scenarios that don’t mean he was a loser.

Should they have gotten her enrolled in a healthcare plan? Of course. But that is us looking at it from the outside, judging them after the fact, not having the full story/all the details.

I know people want to find someone to blame. It’s easy to blame the person we know so little about. But, really, in the end, it was so many little things that added up to disaster based on what we know.


Everyone is blaming the state of Texas. Texas would have paid for her medicaid.


I think it didn’t help the situation to be in TX


She was having pregnancy complications and had no health insurance. What would have been different in another state?


It always better to have all of the information regarding your health.
Women are not entitled to that in Texas.


This woman didn’t want an abortion. She didn’t need an abortion. She needed health insurance and medication and treatment.

Not one article I have read about this situation said she wanted an abortion or an abortion would have saved her life as her condition was treatable with medication and bed rest.
Anonymous
Not sure medication and bed rest would have kept her from getting sicker. It might have slowed the deterioration a bit, but it sounds like the biggest problem was that the pregnancy was too much for her body.
Anonymous
Maybe they were not legally married and he couldn’t add her in DEERS.
Anonymous
“Her medications for diabetes and high blood pressure were more than she could afford as well. Though her OB-GYN warned her about the risks of skipping her blood pressure medications, Glick sometimes avoided taking her medications because they were expensive and made her feel “nauseated and sleepy.”

According to her OB-GYN, not taking the medications put Glick at high risk for a heart attack, stroke, or miscarriage.“


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe they were not legally married and he couldn’t add her in DEERS.


I suggested this earlier. Anything is possible.
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