Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes.

Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale.

UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks.

Kids who are out sick always get to retake tests, they turn a zero into a not-zero.

Kids who don’t like their SAT score can retake no excuse needed all they like.

Teachers love to give out “practice tests” and “open book tests” to high performers.

How about grading curves where everyone failed the test but will you look at that B and A for everyone. I personally had those in AP classes.

The real problem here is that if everyone can retake like that then what’s special about their kids - that they are great test takers - becomes meaningless.

By allowing infinite bites at the apple and giving the answers for corrections, every snowflake looks identical. There are no longer different.

This is why the college application process has become so crazy and there are so many more applicants at every school.

Scores and grades pre-inflation era--used to weed out kids from applying to every school out there. Kids with scores and gpas nowhere in range for a university used to not apply. There were differences in applicants. Now everyone looks identical. You will have 250 out of 650 kids at a HS with above a 4.0 GPA, taking identical classes and then when not submitting scores---how are they distinguished?

We give everyone single kid a trophy now, the true superstars no longer look any different from the masses.

It diminshes the value of the "A", most certainly.

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OP - my child got rejected EA at UVA two years ago (OOS). They wound up getting into Rice and WashU RD, which are both rated more highly than UVA. So you never know. Best of luck to your daughter.

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Not how grading, weighting, GPAs, high schools, or reality work. Sounds like a fan fiction bed time story in the copium genre.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes.

Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale.

UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks.

Kids who are out sick always get to retake tests, they turn a zero into a not-zero.

Kids who don’t like their SAT score can retake no excuse needed all they like.

Teachers love to give out “practice tests” and “open book tests” to high performers.

How about grading curves where everyone failed the test but will you look at that B and A for everyone. I personally had those in AP classes.

The real problem here is that if everyone can retake like that then what’s special about their kids - that they are great test takers - becomes meaningless.

By allowing infinite bites at the apple and giving the answers for corrections, every snowflake looks identical. There are no longer different.

This is why the college application process has become so crazy and there are so many more applicants at every school.

Scores and grades pre-inflation era--used to weed out kids from applying to every school out there. Kids with scores and gpas nowhere in range for a university used to not apply. There were differences in applicants. Now everyone looks identical. You will have 250 out of 650 kids at a HS with above a 4.0 GPA, taking identical classes and then when not submitting scores---how are they distinguished?

We give everyone single kid a trophy now, the true superstars no longer look any different from the masses.

Yes, so then what are schools left to look at? Essays and ECs I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

Everything stated here is false. Like, everything.

But what’s important is telling us all that trying something a couple of times to get it right is bad for some reason.

You don’t want your future scientists learning that sometimes there are errors or you focused on the wrong thing and you should work to revise and get the right answer. Only the first attempt counts.

What a load of horseshit. My kid will be doing the work over again until they get it right because the point of education is getting knowledge and learning how to problem solve.

If that excludes them from UVA and other rejective schools I am totally comfortable with that.

Well, that's great. Really. But, your kid should not be getting the same grade on the test/paper in the course as the kids that are getting it correct the first time and turned in.

When I was a kid we did corrections with the teacher and you stayed after to learn what you didn't know, but that didn't turn a 'C' into an 'A'. You didn't get a grade adjustment to match all of the A students in the class.

Come on, these snowflakes and their parents demanding grade adjustments and crying this stupid crap.

For SOME WEIRD REASON though super scoring is fine and taking the SAT seven times is okay too.

If Larla can take the ACT twice and superscore why can’t she take the Chem final twice and superscore?

It’s the same thing.

Interesting take. Especially when it comes to the mandatory SAT/ACT purists.

I hope you didn't go to UVA Not equivalent at all.

The entire admissions system is geared toward what the ( highly selective) college wants. The parents and students have no leverage whatsoever. So complain about "grade inflation" for GPA or superscore gimmicks for standardized testing, or if a test should be submitted at all, etc. - the equivalent. Pick your gripe.

The parents will advocate for what gets Larla admitted to Yale. Period. When Larla gets rejected, the recriminations follow. Rinse and repeat.

And....even implying I went to UVA is an insult. I went to much better colleges. Aim higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

Everything stated here is false. Like, everything.

But what’s important is telling us all that trying something a couple of times to get it right is bad for some reason.

You don’t want your future scientists learning that sometimes there are errors or you focused on the wrong thing and you should work to revise and get the right answer. Only the first attempt counts.

What a load of horseshit. My kid will be doing the work over again until they get it right because the point of education is getting knowledge and learning how to problem solve.

If that excludes them from UVA and other rejective schools I am totally comfortable with that.

Well, that's great. Really. But, your kid should not be getting the same grade on the test/paper in the course as the kids that are getting it correct the first time and turned in.

When I was a kid we did corrections with the teacher and you stayed after to learn what you didn't know, but that didn't turn a 'C' into an 'A'. You didn't get a grade adjustment to match all of the A students in the class.

Come on, these snowflakes and their parents demanding grade adjustments and crying this stupid crap.

For SOME WEIRD REASON though super scoring is fine and taking the SAT seven times is okay too.

If Larla can take the ACT twice and superscore why can’t she take the Chem final twice and superscore?

It’s the same thing.

Interesting take. Especially when it comes to the mandatory SAT/ACT purists.

I hope you didn't go to UVA Not equivalent at all.

The entire admissions system is geared toward what the ( highly selective) college wants. The parents and students have no leverage whatsoever. So complain about "grade inflation" for GPA or superscore gimmicks for standardized testing, or if a test should be submitted at all, etc. - the equivalent. Pick your gripe.

The parents will advocate for what gets Larla admitted to Yale. Period. When Larla gets rejected, the recriminations follow. Rinse and repeat.

And....even implying I went to UVA is an insult. I went to much better colleges. Aim higher.

Yet you are spending your time arguing on a thread about UVA...

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

Everything stated here is false. Like, everything.

But what’s important is telling us all that trying something a couple of times to get it right is bad for some reason.

You don’t want your future scientists learning that sometimes there are errors or you focused on the wrong thing and you should work to revise and get the right answer. Only the first attempt counts.

What a load of horseshit. My kid will be doing the work over again until they get it right because the point of education is getting knowledge and learning how to problem solve.

If that excludes them from UVA and other rejective schools I am totally comfortable with that.

Well, that's great. Really. But, your kid should not be getting the same grade on the test/paper in the course as the kids that are getting it correct the first time and turned in.

When I was a kid we did corrections with the teacher and you stayed after to learn what you didn't know, but that didn't turn a 'C' into an 'A'. You didn't get a grade adjustment to match all of the A students in the class.

Come on, these snowflakes and their parents demanding grade adjustments and crying this stupid crap.

For SOME WEIRD REASON though super scoring is fine and taking the SAT seven times is okay too.

If Larla can take the ACT twice and superscore why can’t she take the Chem final twice and superscore?

It’s the same thing.

Interesting take. Especially when it comes to the mandatory SAT/ACT purists.

I hope you didn't go to UVA Not equivalent at all.

The entire admissions system is geared toward what the ( highly selective) college wants. The parents and students have no leverage whatsoever. So complain about "grade inflation" for GPA or superscore gimmicks for standardized testing, or if a test should be submitted at all, etc. - the equivalent. Pick your gripe.

The parents will advocate for what gets Larla admitted to Yale. Period. When Larla gets rejected, the recriminations follow. Rinse and repeat.

And....even implying I went to UVA is an insult. I went to much better colleges. Aim higher.

“I don’t like unlucky people” says the Yale AO, knocking 95% of the applications into the trash can and admitting the rest unread.

Meanwhile at the Larlon house:

“Oh my, look out Larla got into YALE!! That must mean she was better than all those other applicants!! I better get onto DCUM immediately and let everyone know the secret to HIGH ACHIEVEMENT and IVY LEAGUE ADMISSION!!”

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes.

Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale.

UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks.

Kids who are out sick always get to retake tests, they turn a zero into a not-zero.

Kids who don’t like their SAT score can retake no excuse needed all they like.

Teachers love to give out “practice tests” and “open book tests” to high performers.

How about grading curves where everyone failed the test but will you look at that B and A for everyone. I personally had those in AP classes.

The real problem here is that if everyone can retake like that then what’s special about their kids - that they are great test takers - becomes meaningless.

By allowing infinite bites at the apple and giving the answers for corrections, every snowflake looks identical. There are no longer different.

This is why the college application process has become so crazy and there are so many more applicants at every school.

Scores and grades pre-inflation era--used to weed out kids from applying to every school out there. Kids with scores and gpas nowhere in range for a university used to not apply. There were differences in applicants. Now everyone looks identical. You will have 250 out of 650 kids at a HS with above a 4.0 GPA, taking identical classes and then when not submitting scores---how are they distinguished?

We give everyone single kid a trophy now, the true superstars no longer look any different from the masses.

It diminshes the value of the "A", most certainly.

An “A” in high school has zero value to begin with.

It barely has value at the college admissions offices.

Time is better spend teaching children skills and accomplishments of actual value.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes.

Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale.

UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks.

Correct on the retake policy, it’s impossible to get an A on that exam retake.

It’s designed to take a failing grade and turn it into a merely lousy one.

An 80 under the FCPS grading rubric is a B-

I think people applying to UVA or other highly selective schools should not be concerned about too many wildly inflated B minuses and C pluses floating around out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes.

Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale.

UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks.

+100

We had grade weighting when I was in high school and Honors classes got a big bump. Difference was that out of a class of 275, only 30 kids were in the 1 honors section so only those kids got the bump. We were tracked early and those tracks added a few here and there but mostly stayed the same group of kids. Now, because there is free access to this weighted advantage if the student selects it (at least in FCPS), hundreds of kids get the bump and become much more hard to differentiate from each other.

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UVA knows. On a tour the AO chuckled someone was in the audience from a school with 144 valedictorians.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA knows. On a tour the AO chuckled someone was in the audience from a school with 144 valedictorians.

I think this is part of why they emphasize rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA knows. On a tour the AO chuckled someone was in the audience from a school with 144 valedictorians.

I think this is part of why they emphasize rigor.

And why private school kids may get in with lower than the 4.5gpa. Local reps know school rigor and what’s available course wise.

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Anonymous wrote:Not how grading, weighting, GPAs, high schools, or reality work. Sounds like a fan fiction bed time story in the copium genre.

Based on your writing, please tell us that you never advanced beyond the fifth or sixth grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it.

Wrong.

Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted.

Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA.

It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam).

What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.

And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools (and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up--not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there.

Everything stated here is false. Like, everything.

But what’s important is telling us all that trying something a couple of times to get it right is bad for some reason.

You don’t want your future scientists learning that sometimes there are errors or you focused on the wrong thing and you should work to revise and get the right answer. Only the first attempt counts.

What a load of horseshit. My kid will be doing the work over again until they get it right because the point of education is getting knowledge and learning how to problem solve.

If that excludes them from UVA and other rejective schools I am totally comfortable with that.

Well, that's great. Really. But, your kid should not be getting the same grade on the test/paper in the course as the kids that are getting it correct the first time and turned in.

When I was a kid we did corrections with the teacher and you stayed after to learn what you didn't know, but that didn't turn a 'C' into an 'A'. You didn't get a grade adjustment to match all of the A students in the class.

Come on, these snowflakes and their parents demanding grade adjustments and crying this stupid crap.

For SOME WEIRD REASON though super scoring is fine and taking the SAT seven times is okay too.

If Larla can take the ACT twice and superscore why can’t she take the Chem final twice and superscore?

It’s the same thing.

Interesting take. Especially when it comes to the mandatory SAT/ACT purists.

I hope you didn't go to UVA Not equivalent at all.

The entire admissions system is geared toward what the ( highly selective) college wants. The parents and students have no leverage whatsoever. So complain about "grade inflation" for GPA or superscore gimmicks for standardized testing, or if a test should be submitted at all, etc. - the equivalent. Pick your gripe.

The parents will advocate for what gets Larla admitted to Yale. Period. When Larla gets rejected, the recriminations follow. Rinse and repeat.

And....even implying I went to UVA is an insult. I went to much better colleges. Aim higher.

“I don’t like unlucky people” says the Yale AO, knocking 95% of the applications into the trash can and admitting the rest unread.

Meanwhile at the Larlon house:

“Oh my, look out Larla got into YALE!! That must mean she was better than all those other applicants!! I better get onto DCUM immediately and let everyone know the secret to HIGH ACHIEVEMENT and IVY LEAGUE ADMISSION!!”

Love this. A+