They have as much obligation as anyone else does on that--but it doesn't belong uniquely to faculty; it is shared by all in the campus community. The faculty role with respect to the intellectual life of the university is unique, and when the threat to it is as obvious as students having their faces placed on billboards as an incitement to imminent violence, they don't have the option to be quiet about it. |
| I'm an academic who works on the Middle East. I'm not super lefty but I believe the current Israeli military response is extremely counterproductive. I also think the doxxing of 18-22 year olds is obnoxious and threatening. Still, I was shocked by that Columbia faculty letter - it goes way too far in excusing the horrific terrorist attacks by Hamas. If the OP is still reading, I can totally understand why your DH is disillusioned with your friend. I have a few acquaintences who've become extremely strident in one direction or the other and I've lost respect for them. I certainly wouldn't go on vacation with someone who believes that terrorist attacks are legitimate military operations. |
| You are mad that she signed an anti-doxxing letter???? |
The letter doesn't say that. In fact, it says the opposite. |
No it doesn’t. |
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OP, I’m sorry that you are going through this. I can’t imagine what you’re feeling right now.
Personally, I would ignore it around this woman, unless you continue to see escalating rhetoric from her or the child. Stay alert and never let your adversaries know that you are on to them. |
From the letter:
Because the Hamas attack intentionally targeted civilians, the attack was not legitimate. |
I think you need to explain how it IS an open air prison. I mean, is your neighborhood a prison? How is it not? |
| OP, I'd just let it go. Many friendships didn't survive Trump/Clinton, covid, etc. And this is a far more divisive issue. Mentally thank them for the joy they brought into your life, and let them go. |
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PP academic here: I would not have signed the Columbia letter because in my view, it seeks to justify the student letter, which was awful. Responding to an unprecedented terrorist attack that touched almost every Israeli household in some way by calling for Columbia to cut its ties with "apartheid Israel" including various dual degree programs?? Cmon kids, read the room, don't be such jacka@@es at a moment of profound fear and grief.
If the faculty letter was simply a protest against doxxing and threatening young people for expressing their views, I would have signed. I'm very careful about the language I use around such sensitive conflicts. Hope that makes sense. |
This is what I’ve been trying to say on this thread but you articulated it better. Agree. Thank you. |
+1, and I'll also note the student statement said the same. Neither document refers to the Hamas attack as legitimate or justified. Both documents express grief over the loss of life. The main point of the student statement is that the Hamas attacks should be viewed in context, and not in a vacuum. You can be horrified by the attacks and the loss of life while acknowledging and understanding that these were not terror attacks that emerged out of the ether. They are part of an ongoing conflict. Again, that doesn't justify them. But to express grief and horror over the 10/7 attacks, without even acknowledging the fact that hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been killed by Israeli military forces this year alone (well before the Israeli response to the Hamas attacks) is hurtful to Palestinian students. It doesn't mean they are glad Israelis died or don't care about those deaths. But obviously they care about the ongoing conflict and the loss of Palestinian lives, and they were bothered by responses to the 10/7 attacks that simply ignored that context, and that loss of life. That's not anti-semitic. It's pro-Palestinian. And yeah, the pro-Palestine student groups don't like Israel. Is anyone actually surprised by that? Would you expect an Israeli student group to endorse the government of Iran? I know people are upset about the students' choice to frame the Hamas attacks as a military action rather than a terror attack. I personally do not agree with that statement. But I read their statement and I understand why they are framing it that way. I did not find their statement anti-semitic. I do not equate Israel with Jews and I personally find the current Israeli government to be abhorrent, and Netanyahu to be on par with Putin as a foreign leader. The didn't say it was a legitimate military action, I don't get why that word keeps being thrown around. It wasn't legitimate -- it targeted innocent civilians and is abhorrent. But there are many examples of the Israeli military targeting civilians in Gaza. Those are military actions, no? Are they legitimate? It's complicate, isn't it? |
+1 They want to sign a letter? Fine - that's their name for the world to see. |
Can you post this response? |
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRYUSR01Cb6zV50rDtm88q0ppSz-bn40oJ28YTG5cYJGpAjNF4hkiCAwQKya2iI5h--cb633CbeAtL6/pub?urp=gmail_link |