They do get their financial aid from their ED school. And can turn it down if not enough. What is different is that they can’t compare financial aid among schools. |
They do. It’s called a fly-in program. Used for recruiting URM, rural, etc. |
Those who say UChicago is a second tier university do not know what they are talking about. UChicago is top 5 in graduate programs in Math, Statistics, Physics, Economics, MBA, etc. |
Cornell is the worst ivy so thats pretty reasonable. But generally more kids prefer 6 of the ivies (not Dartmouth or Cornell), Stanford, MIT, Duke, and Caltech to UChicago. UChicago is essentially willfully avoiding competing with those schools with its current strategy, but by doing so they’re also missing out on some potential superstars who have a lot of choices to pick from. Look at Columbia and Duke for example: they only take ~40% of their class in ED (compared to UChicago taking ~70% of their class in ED) and aren’t afraid of losing hundreds and hundreds of cross-admits to HPSM each year for the chance at enrolling the students who have personal preference for their school over HPSM. |
But those are not high-prestige, important fields. Try ethnic studies, political science, journalism, law, those are the fields of the elite. |
I really wish it weren’t trying to compete with the top tier schools and just did its own thing. Its own thing is pretty special. No reason for them to try to copy a different school. UChicago kids are incredibly bright and the classes are no joke. My kid is getting an amazing education, second to none. She will be well prepared for whatever comes next - right now the plan is grad school. She selected this school (RD admit) over an ivy (she wants to study physics at the home of Fermi). I just don’t understand the hate for this school on this board. Don’t apply or go there if it annoys you. It’s totally not for everyone and that is fine. |
No one actually hates UChicago, people are just annoyed by its admissions practices. Youre right that its a great school, and as such it shouldnt be afraid to compete for students with top/mid ivies, Stanford, Duke, MIT, etc. |
A recruiter came to my kid's high school and (as I've been told) asked to meet the top students. This is ~not~ a good high school. The number of 99th percentile scorers can be counted on one hand. But Chicago sent somebody to our neck of the woods to find them and make a presentation. Doesn't sound like they are afraid to compete at all. Sounds like they go the extra mile to win. |
You must be joking. Ethnic studies? WOW! That is an important academic field that requires extremely high intelligence, integrity, and incredible hard work. By the way, UChicago’s law school is also top 5. UChicago is about #10 for political science and journalism. |
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” |
U Chicago law school is currently number 3 !!
Business school number 1. I think the challenge for u Chicago ‘s undergraduate program is to pick kids that they can handle the work load and don’t care about big sport events and school spirits and be happy with other attractions at the school. My son is getting an amazing education, very interesting classes but he never goes to see a football game. He misses that part of college life. That’s the sacrifice going to school like Hopkins or UC. They have to be more aggressive in their ED admissions and it is a brilliant strategy to find the balance in their admission |
UChicago, because of its location, cannot compete with HYPSM for the extremely top undergraduate students (e.g., junior marathon world record holder who is also a math whiz, gold medal at international math Olympia, etc.) who are shoo-in for a top 5 school.
ED2 helps UChicago get some of the very top students who are just below the extreme level. Thus, the self deprecating phrase “land of Harvard and Stanford rejects.” Some of these students could get into another top 5 (a Harvard reject, if applying to the other top 4 schools during the regular round, could get into one of them), but they can choose to apply ED2 to get into UChicago for sure. |
I dont think location is an issue, Chicago is still a great city. They also have less financial resources than many other top schools. But of course that isnt the end all be all (look at Notre Dame) |
You can't be rejected by Harvard or Stanford if you ED to Duke, MIT, Hopkins, Chicago 😆 But can you hair splitters get serious? Each one of these places is a dream destination. |
The hate is because UChicago rejects a lot of kids. Same reason the haters hate NEU. Or call Cornell a second-tier college. The elitism on this board is mind-boggling. It's almost like a college football playoff where you have to be number 1 or you suck.
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