2025 Boys' Commits

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Anonymous wrote:STA played 3 cupcake programs todays to go 3-0

Still, 8 of their kids were admitted today to Harvard, Princeton and Yale.

Ivies don't admit in November, but nice try. Not to mention, last year's matriculation was eye opening for a lot of STA parents. Ivy admits were athletes, legacy, and big donors. Lots of good/top students did not get into their desired schools. STA matriculations are not what they used to be.

35 to Ivys, Duke, and Williams caliber school's, 33 to Wake, BC, Notre Dame level and 8 to Oregon, PSU and James Madison types. You are spot off.

Who cares? Go away this is a lacrosse thread. BC JmU wake and Oregon don’t even have lacrosse teams.

The idiot who said “STA matriculations are not what they used to be” seemed to care and needed to be put in a factually accurate place. I am sorry to have had to smack a fool down on this thread but when fools need smackin, they gotta be smacked.

Well STA certainly sucks at lacrosse commitments to college. They have some of the lowest numbers in lax recruiting in the DMV. If you want to play lax at the collegiate level do not go tot STA. Facts.

STA 2023 class had at least 6 College commits. Definitely fewer than some of the other programs, but don’t think that constitutes “sucking”.

One half way decent class doesn’t make up for all the other years. STA has some of the lowest, if not the lowest college commits for lacrosse. If you want to play lacrosse in college do not go to STA. The competition level just isn’t the same. Only reason to attend STA is if your lacrosse player isn’t good enough to play on the top teams in the DMV. Boys who don’t play much on the top teams can start on the STA varsity team. And vice versa, the majority of kids who start on STA’s team likely wouldn’t play much on top teams. STA is just on a lower level and does not have the talent nor depth of top DMV teams.

Couple of problems with that: STA's tuition is one of the highest in the area and might be the highest with the donation "suggestions" and the academic standards aren't lowered for lacrosse players. They also prefer to admit legacies with family $$ rather than new families with no association to the school. I'll give credit to Heeter though, he's not afraid to schedule games and he's done better with what he has more so than any STA coach long before him.

These are excuses. Many lacrosse players come from wealthy families and are academically strong students. The IAC, especially, is full of teams with wealthy students who are strong academically. The Ivy League is especially picky about academics and recruiting strong academic students. Plenty of Ivy lax commits out of schools like Georgetown Prep, Bullis, Gonzaga, and Landon. Saying STA is disadvantaged because of high tuition and strong academics, is just an excuse. STA is disadvantaged because they have a weak program and history in lax. Strong players who hope to play in college will choose a historically strong program that competes at the highest level with the strongest teammates.

Those aren't excuses. Those are reasons. If you are choosing a school because your kid might go to play at Tampa or Lafayette to play lax, that's a pretty bad decision process. STA is a high level academic high school which tries to be competitive at sports without going to the lengths of the WCAC and some of the other schools in the area with certain sports. I don't have it at my fingertips, but I'm pretty sure STA places a very close percentage of players in Ivy/equivalent schools. After that, I don't think the average STA student and family are really interested in going to Jacksonville. Many families don't bother applying to STA because of the significant barriers to admission.

What? Try writing a coherent response. 🙄 Who said anything about "choosing a school because your kid might go to play at Tampa or Lafayette to play lax"? Also, suggesting "STA places a very close percentage of players in Ivy/equivalent schools" is a joke. Besides the 2023 class, STA has had very few lax college commits each year. And who said anything about Jacksonville? To suggest STA is above sending their student-athletes to lower ranked schools, I say just look at the football team. They recruited the starting quarterback from Good Counsel in 2020 who then ended up at Elizabeth City State University. He is one example of a player (although not lax) who most likely would have been better off if he had stayed at GC.

For educational purposes:
STA 2018 class - 1 commit to Amherst
STA 2019 class - 1 commit to Brown
STA 2020 class - no lax commits
STA 2021 class - 1 commit to Bowdoin
STA 2022 class - 2 commits to Amherst and Sewanee
STA 2023 class (best ever) - 6 commits to Penn (2), Bowdoin (2), Cornell, Wesleyan
STA 2024 class - no lax commits
STA 2025 class - 1 commit to Colgate so far

In Comparison:
Prep 2018 - 4 commits to Penn, Dartmouth, Bucknell, Richmond
Prep 2019 - 8 commits to Georgetown, Dartmouth, UNC, Virginia, Colgate, Villanova, Navy, Fairfield
Prep 2020 - 8 commits to UNC, Tufts, Boston University, Drexel, Lehigh (2), Penn State, Kenyon
Prep 2021 - 13 commits to Notre Dame (2), Penn, Navy, Amherst, Maryland, Bowdoin, Lehigh (2), Saint Joseph's, Colorado College, Ohio Northern , NJIT
Prep 2022 - 4 commits to Virginia, Navy, Bowdoin, Bellarmine
Prep 2023 - 11 commits to Princeton (2), Georgetown, Army, Colgate, Haverford, Marquette, Christopher Newport, Tampa, St. Bonaventure, Boston University
Prep 2024 - 8 commits to Duke, Notre Dame, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, Villanova, Maryland, Dickinson, Tampa
Prep 2025 - 4 commits so far to Penn, UNC, Fairfield, Saint Joseph's

Landon 2018 - 8 commits to Penn State, Johns Hopkins, Loyola, Bucknell, Fairfiled, Michigan, Maryland, Salisbury
Landon 2019 - 5 commits to Richmond, Gettysburg (2), Colby, Tufts,
Landon 2020 - 4 commits to Harvard, Navy, Denver, Ohio Wesleyan
Landon 2021 - 4 commits to Yale, Penn, Michigan, Amherst
Landon 2022 - 8 commits to Dartmouth (2), Navy, Michigan, Colby, Hobart, Ohio State, Dickinson
Landon 2023 - 7 commits to Dartmouth, Denison, Bowdoin, Washington and Lee, Dickinson, Monmouth, Ohio Wesleyan
Landon 2024 - 7 commits to Georgetown, Bowdoin, Bucknell, Tufts, Delaware (2), Utah
Landon 2025 - 4 commits so far to Princeton, Penn, Bucknell, Lafayette

Wow. You must be a complete douche.

Facts are facts.

[Anonymous]

Some people live in a bubble and don’t like facts when they differ from their beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:STA played 3 cupcake programs todays to go 3-0

Still, 8 of their kids were admitted today to Harvard, Princeton and Yale.

Ivies don't admit in November, but nice try. Not to mention, last year's matriculation was eye opening for a lot of STA parents. Ivy admits were athletes, legacy, and big donors. Lots of good/top students did not get into their desired schools. STA matriculations are not what they used to be.

35 to Ivys, Duke, and Williams caliber school's, 33 to Wake, BC, Notre Dame level and 8 to Oregon, PSU and James Madison types. You are spot off.

Who cares? Go away this is a lacrosse thread. BC JmU wake and Oregon don’t even have lacrosse teams.

The idiot who said “STA matriculations are not what they used to be” seemed to care and needed to be put in a factually accurate place. I am sorry to have had to smack a fool down on this thread but when fools need smackin, they gotta be smacked.

Well STA certainly sucks at lacrosse commitments to college. They have some of the lowest numbers in lax recruiting in the DMV. If you want to play lax at the collegiate level do not go tot STA. Facts.

STA 2023 class had at least 6 College commits. Definitely fewer than some of the other programs, but don’t think that constitutes “sucking”.

One half way decent class doesn’t make up for all the other years. STA has some of the lowest, if not the lowest college commits for lacrosse. If you want to play lacrosse in college do not go to STA. The competition level just isn’t the same. Only reason to attend STA is if your lacrosse player isn’t good enough to play on the top teams in the DMV. Boys who don’t play much on the top teams can start on the STA varsity team. And vice versa, the majority of kids who start on STA’s team likely wouldn’t play much on top teams. STA is just on a lower level and does not have the talent nor depth of top DMV teams.

Couple of problems with that: STA's tuition is one of the highest in the area and might be the highest with the donation "suggestions" and the academic standards aren't lowered for lacrosse players. They also prefer to admit legacies with family $$ rather than new families with no association to the school. I'll give credit to Heeter though, he's not afraid to schedule games and he's done better with what he has more so than any STA coach long before him.

These are excuses. Many lacrosse players come from wealthy families and are academically strong students. The IAC, especially, is full of teams with wealthy students who are strong academically. The Ivy League is especially picky about academics and recruiting strong academic students. Plenty of Ivy lax commits out of schools like Georgetown Prep, Bullis, Gonzaga, and Landon. Saying STA is disadvantaged because of high tuition and strong academics, is just an excuse. STA is disadvantaged because they have a weak program and history in lax. Strong players who hope to play in college will choose a historically strong program that competes at the highest level with the strongest teammates.

Those aren't excuses. Those are reasons. If you are choosing a school because your kid might go to play at Tampa or Lafayette to play lax, that's a pretty bad decision process. STA is a high level academic high school which tries to be competitive at sports without going to the lengths of the WCAC and some of the other schools in the area with certain sports. I don't have it at my fingertips, but I'm pretty sure STA places a very close percentage of players in Ivy/equivalent schools. After that, I don't think the average STA student and family are really interested in going to Jacksonville. Many families don't bother applying to STA because of the significant barriers to admission.

What? Try writing a coherent response. 🙄 Who said anything about "choosing a school because your kid might go to play at Tampa or Lafayette to play lax"? Also, suggesting "STA places a very close percentage of players in Ivy/equivalent schools" is a joke. Besides the 2023 class, STA has had very few lax college commits each year. And who said anything about Jacksonville? To suggest STA is above sending their student-athletes to lower ranked schools, I say just look at the football team. They recruited the starting quarterback from Good Counsel in 2020 who then ended up at Elizabeth City State University. He is one example of a player (although not lax) who most likely would have been better off if he had stayed at GC.

For educational purposes:
STA 2018 class - 1 commit to Amherst
STA 2019 class - 1 commit to Brown
STA 2020 class - no lax commits
STA 2021 class - 1 commit to Bowdoin
STA 2022 class - 2 commits to Amherst and Sewanee
STA 2023 class (best ever) - 6 commits to Penn (2), Bowdoin (2), Cornell, Wesleyan
STA 2024 class - no lax commits
STA 2025 class - 1 commit to Colgate so far

In Comparison:
Prep 2018 - 4 commits to Penn, Dartmouth, Bucknell, Richmond
Prep 2019 - 8 commits to Georgetown, Dartmouth, UNC, Virginia, Colgate, Villanova, Navy, Fairfield
Prep 2020 - 8 commits to UNC, Tufts, Boston University, Drexel, Lehigh (2), Penn State, Kenyon
Prep 2021 - 13 commits to Notre Dame (2), Penn, Navy, Amherst, Maryland, Bowdoin, Lehigh (2), Saint Joseph's, Colorado College, Ohio Northern , NJIT
Prep 2022 - 4 commits to Virginia, Navy, Bowdoin, Bellarmine
Prep 2023 - 11 commits to Princeton (2), Georgetown, Army, Colgate, Haverford, Marquette, Christopher Newport, Tampa, St. Bonaventure, Boston University
Prep 2024 - 8 commits to Duke, Notre Dame, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, Villanova, Maryland, Dickinson, Tampa
Prep 2025 - 4 commits so far to Penn, UNC, Fairfield, Saint Joseph's

Landon 2018 - 8 commits to Penn State, Johns Hopkins, Loyola, Bucknell, Fairfiled, Michigan, Maryland, Salisbury
Landon 2019 - 5 commits to Richmond, Gettysburg (2), Colby, Tufts,
Landon 2020 - 4 commits to Harvard, Navy, Denver, Ohio Wesleyan
Landon 2021 - 4 commits to Yale, Penn, Michigan, Amherst
Landon 2022 - 8 commits to Dartmouth (2), Navy, Michigan, Colby, Hobart, Ohio State, Dickinson
Landon 2023 - 7 commits to Dartmouth, Denison, Bowdoin, Washington and Lee, Dickinson, Monmouth, Ohio Wesleyan
Landon 2024 - 7 commits to Georgetown, Bowdoin, Bucknell, Tufts, Delaware (2), Utah
Landon 2025 - 4 commits so far to Princeton, Penn, Bucknell, Lafayette

Appreciate the info in one place. And while you may be a bit intense here, as I neutral party, I can say that you definitely won the argument.

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Wasn’t aware Dickinson. Osu, Monmouth , Delaware , Salisbury and all the other schools similar to Jax and Tampa were ivy equivalent. Now do all the sta grads going to ivy equivalent without the benefit of lax.

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Anonymous wrote:Some people live in a bubble and don’t like facts when they differ from their beliefs.

One can be right and still a douche.

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STA parents never fail to show everyone just how douchey THEY really are. "We are better, smarter, wealthier, and have more Ivy matriculations than everyone else". 🤮

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Don't forget....we don't need lax for ivy equivalent matriculations....yet they're trolling the lax and, more specifically the 2025 commits string.

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t aware Dickinson. Osu, Monmouth , Delaware , Salisbury and all the other schools similar to Jax and Tampa were ivy equivalent. Now do all the sta grads going to ivy equivalent without the benefit of lax.

Um, all schools have Ivy and Ivy equivalent matriculations without the help of lacrosse.

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Didnt STA have the following in their 2023 lax class:

1 to Penn
1 to Brown
1 to Amherst
1 to Cornell

Pretty certain all of these kids would have likely started at all of the rival IAC programs.

Parents choose STA for its stellar academic track record and school reputation , lacrosse is secondary.

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Anonymous wrote:Didnt STA have the following in their 2023 lax class:

1 to Penn
1 to Brown
1 to Amherst
1 to Cornell

Pretty certain all of these kids would have likely started at all of the rival IAC programs.

Parents choose STA for its stellar academic track record and school reputation , lacrosse is secondary.

Why bother commenting when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? Not to mention you clearly haven't even read any of the recent pages in this thread.

To answer your questions.

2023 STA players did not go to Amherst or Brown.

At the top schools, the committed STA players likely would not have started until senior year, if at all, due to better players in their positions. The STA committed players have, for the most part, started since freshmen or sophomore year due to lack of depth and lower competition level at STA.

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STA won the fall season in 2022 and 2023 so there is that.

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Anonymous wrote:Didnt STA have the following in their 2023 lax class:

1 to Penn
1 to Brown
1 to Amherst
1 to Cornell

Pretty certain all of these kids would have likely started at all of the rival IAC programs.

Parents choose STA for its stellar academic track record and school reputation , lacrosse is secondary.

Why bother commenting when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? Not to mention you clearly haven't even read any of the recent pages in this thread.

To answer your questions.

2023 STA players did not go to Amherst or Brown.

At the top schools, the committed STA players likely would not have started until senior year, if at all, due to better players in their positions. The STA committed players have, for the most part, started since freshmen or sophomore year due to lack of depth and lower competition level at STA.

Hey Angry Dad or Player - you are trying to tell me Pasha Hakimi (LSM who went to PENN) wouldn't have started at GP or Landon or Bullis last Spring...

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I see a lot of bickering on academic placement.

Just did some tracking myself for the last 10 years of kids getting into top 25 Men’s D1 programs.

Out of all DMV schools, Bullis/Prep/Landon/Gonzaga are the only ones with 15+ and ~20. The others don’t come even close.

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Anonymous wrote:Didnt STA have the following in their 2023 lax class:

1 to Penn
1 to Brown
1 to Amherst
1 to Cornell

Pretty certain all of these kids would have likely started at all of the rival IAC programs.

Parents choose STA for its stellar academic track record and school reputation , lacrosse is secondary.

Why bother commenting when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? Not to mention you clearly haven't even read any of the recent pages in this thread.

To answer your questions.

2023 STA players did not go to Amherst or Brown.

At the top schools, the committed STA players likely would not have started until senior year, if at all, due to better players in their positions. The STA committed players have, for the most part, started since freshmen or sophomore year due to lack of depth and lower competition level at STA.

Hey Angry Dad or Player - you are trying to tell me Pasha Hakimi (LSM who went to PENN) wouldn't have started at GP or Landon or Bullis last Spring...

Reading comprehension is not your strength is it?

PP said STA players would not have started until senior year at top schools. Top IAC lax school was Prep last year, and no, Hakimi would not have started freshman-junior year with Christmas on the roster as Prep's top LSM. Christmas was way better than Hakimi, so after he left then Hakimi likely would have started senior year. Although he would have had serious competition from Prep's 2024 ND commit.

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None of this has anything to do with 2025 recruiting. Although the 2023 class likely will end up with 2x or more the number high level recruits in the DMV than the 2025 class. High level being teams that have been ranked in the top 25 at some point in the last five seasons.