What is even the point of private schools?

[Anonymous]

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We do private for the small class sizes ( 13-16) and the lack of violence. DD is in MS and doing well. My goal is not for her to get into a top Ivy it’s to enjoy learning and get an education. My friends son at a mcps MS had witnessed 3 fights already and they’ve only at school for 2 weeks.

+1, we are applying to private for HS. Smaller class sizes, an ability to discipline and not tolerate poor behavior. I'm not talking about chair-throwing, I'm talking about basic requirements to sit in your seat, listen to the teacher and do the work. The expectations of the students is above the bare minimum that it is in public.

Our zoned HS has a number of counselors but only one who is officially title the college counselor for 700+ kids. Unless you're top of the top, the average kid is getting little to no attention. "Based on your scores and gpa here's the list of schools you should apply to. Good luck." At the end of the day the academics may or may not be much better than would be available at our supposedly highly rated public, but the overall experience is bound to be a more positive one which counts for a lot.

And what do you think happens when your kid gets a job? You think Google has a career counselor providing an individualized plan to your kid for how to climb the career ladder or even keep their job?

Haha you obviously know NOTHING about working at Google. Funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

It’s all disingenuous reasons. These parents are desperate to get their kids in top colleges and universities, where the average class is held in an auditorium, drug and alcohol use is rampant and getting into a club requires multiple rounds of interviews and essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

Agree! People who think public is so great never had to go to a place like that. They move to lily white burbs while pretending to be so progressive/ inclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This again

We do private for the small class sizes ( 13-16) and the lack of violence. DD is in MS and doing well. My goal is not for her to get into a top Ivy it’s to enjoy learning and get an education. My friends son at a mcps MS had witnessed 3 fights already and they’ve only at school for 2 weeks.

+1, we are applying to private for HS. Smaller class sizes, an ability to discipline and not tolerate poor behavior. I'm not talking about chair-throwing, I'm talking about basic requirements to sit in your seat, listen to the teacher and do the work. The expectations of the students is above the bare minimum that it is in public.

Our zoned HS has a number of counselors but only one who is officially title the college counselor for 700+ kids. Unless you're top of the top, the average kid is getting little to no attention. "Based on your scores and gpa here's the list of schools you should apply to. Good luck." At the end of the day the academics may or may not be much better than would be available at our supposedly highly rated public, but the overall experience is bound to be a more positive one which counts for a lot.

And what do you think happens when your kid gets a job? You think Google has a career counselor providing an individualized plan to your kid for how to climb the career ladder or even keep their job?

Do you really think that the last several decades of expensive private school students have headed off to college and then they all just collectively fail in their careers? What would give you that impression? They don’t need individualized career counselors, they are exceptionally well prepared and have a strong network they can lean on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

My kid who went to private now makes a 7-figure salary.

how much of the private to college to job pipeline was due to family connections?

zero

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

[Anonymous]

https://www.wbez.org/stories/ctu-president-is-sending-her-son-to-private-school-calling-it-a-result-of-unfair-choices-for-south-side-families/f7216085-7435-476b-a51d-125b46902774

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wbez.org/stories/ctu-president-is-sending-her-son-to-private-school-calling-it-a-result-of-unfair-choices-for-south-side-families/f7216085-7435-476b-a51d-125b46902774

But how will he do at Google if he’s not totally deprived in high school?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

And I think what people are saying is our best local public schools are still not the same experience as a top private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

I sent my kids to a “great” public middle school where ambulances showed up multiple times in the three years my kid was there because of either physical harm from fights or ODs. My kid wouldn’t drink water to avoid using the bathroom because they were so unsafe. This was in a highly rated school district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This again

We do private for the small class sizes ( 13-16) and the lack of violence. DD is in MS and doing well. My goal is not for her to get into a top Ivy it’s to enjoy learning and get an education. My friends son at a mcps MS had witnessed 3 fights already and they’ve only at school for 2 weeks.

+1, we are applying to private for HS. Smaller class sizes, an ability to discipline and not tolerate poor behavior. I'm not talking about chair-throwing, I'm talking about basic requirements to sit in your seat, listen to the teacher and do the work. The expectations of the students is above the bare minimum that it is in public.

Our zoned HS has a number of counselors but only one who is officially title the college counselor for 700+ kids. Unless you're top of the top, the average kid is getting little to no attention. "Based on your scores and gpa here's the list of schools you should apply to. Good luck." At the end of the day the academics may or may not be much better than would be available at our supposedly highly rated public, but the overall experience is bound to be a more positive one which counts for a lot.

And what do you think happens when your kid gets a job? You think Google has a career counselor providing an individualized plan to your kid for how to climb the career ladder or even keep their job?

Do you really think that the last several decades of expensive private school students have headed off to college and then they all just collectively fail in their careers? What would give you that impression? They don’t need individualized career counselors, they are exceptionally well prepared and have a strong network they can lean on.

My experience. They flail on the job, significantly underperforming their peers from public and their FA peers from Private. No one cares about your kid’s network at Google, Goldman, Academia, Research, Publishing, Music, Politics. They care about the employee that is going to make them and keep them rich. and powerful. And here is a hint for you, those employees are rarely the kids who were pondering the latte flavors and never had to compete for a club.

[Anonymous]

Private is not about going to a top college nor guaranteed success in life post college.

You go to private because of the fit for your kid. Whether it's smaller class size, better environment, structured learning, etc. You go because the public option sucks.

Why would anyone in their right minds WANT to spend $$$$ otherwise? If they did feel it helped them with entry into a top school, they are idiots. If you are legacy, you can go anywhere. Short of that, being at top of class in public is prob better odds than bottom/mid of a top private.

We send our 2 kids because of learning disabilities and because our public sucks. That's enough reasons. Those who are seriously focused on getting into top colleges from public will find out soon enough for many reasons, their kid who "fails" them, will continue throughout their life because their expectations are silly.

[Anonymous]

The poster is only going to push back about spoiled privileged children no matter what explanation is provided.

Recommend ignore and move on. Everyone is making the best decision they can for their particular children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

My kid who went to private now makes a 7-figure salary.

how much of the private to college to job pipeline was due to family connections?

zero

that's awesome, but I bet they went to a private college with a great alumni network. So, they probably didn't really have to "pound the pavement" much. Isn't that one of the reasons we want our kids to go to these fancy private schools... for the network?