What is even the point of private schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

DP. The comparison is not between private vs. pizza-stealing, sniffing-teacher public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you assume they are not indoctrinated with Marxist propaganda at public school?

My child last year at Washington-Liberty had a 10th-grade English teacher who had no problem having a BLM fist in her Back To School Night presentation to the parents. Many of the assigned class books and articles were along those same lines. I wouldn't have minded too much, except the teacher simply dialed it in and did not do any real teaching, kids kind of had to learn English by doing busy-work assignments, and were not taught any critical thinking skills by the actual teacher. Basically, a year of a core subject was wasted. I still believe it is a good school, but that class was a real disappointment to him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wbez.org/stories/ctu-president-is-sending-her-son-to-private-school-calling-it-a-result-of-unfair-choices-for-south-side-families/f7216085-7435-476b-a51d-125b46902774

But how will he do at Google if he’s not totally deprived in high school?!

Talk about a red herring! If I don’t spend 60k per year per kid my kids will end up in an underperforming urban school in the most violent city in the US. Goodness!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do public schools offer religion in the curriculum, or an all boys/all girls environment?

For many, it's that simple.

I've been finding this kind of amusing lately, and I know not directly related to your point. People who are against having any type of religion in public school are very vocal about pushing GLBT+ rights, environmental doom, equity, etc... - isn't that just the other side of the coin and a similar indoctrination? Sure, keep religion out of the public school, but also keep progressive ideology out of the school - at least until high school when kids can more clearly think for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

DP. The comparison is not between private vs. pizza-stealing, sniffing-teacher public.

Well, the choice is damn clear when you & your fellow NHS members gotta cover the cost of those stolen slices
you can’t even complain otherwise you’ll get a beat down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are actually several points in our family’s choice of private school:

1. High expectations of students in academics and personal conduct
2. General sense of orderliness
3. Personalized attention from teachers, staff, and admin
4. Safety
5. Opportunities for spots in clubs and sports teams that are severely limited in the local big-box, overcrowded public
6. Cleanliness of facility
7. No phones allowed during class time
8. No drugging or vaping in bathrooms
9. Transparent curricula
10. Teachers actually grade work w/commentary
11. Misbehaving students face consequences. Three strikes = expulsion
12. Uniforms

Sweet snowflakes need to be protected. Should prepare them well for life.

I’ll play. Where did you and your putative children attend K-12?
I attended K-12 in a low-rated, overcrowded, dangerous school cluster. My experience was one of sexual harassment from tenured teachers, threats of sexual and physical violence from other students, poor instructional quality, and teacher/administration apathy.
Not an experience I would wish on my worst enemy, nor for my children. Have you had your breasts grabbed when you’re trying to drink at the water fountain? Have you had your club’s pizza sale slices stolen by non-paying students? Have you had teachers rub your shoulders and sniff your hair? No? Lucky you!

DP. A parent who can afford to pay 60k private surely can afford to send their kids to a great public school,

DP. The comparison is not between private vs. pizza-stealing, sniffing-teacher public.

Well, the choice is damn clear when you & your fellow NHS members gotta cover the cost of those stolen slices
you can’t even complain otherwise you’ll get a beat down

Haha this is bringing back memories of high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you assume they are not indoctrinated with Marxist propaganda at public school?

My child last year at Washington-Liberty had a 10th-grade English teacher who had no problem having a BLM fist in her Back To School Night presentation to the parents. Many of the assigned class books and articles were along those same lines. I wouldn't have minded too much, except the teacher simply dialed it in and did not do any real teaching, kids kind of had to learn English by doing busy-work assignments, and were not taught any critical thinking skills by the actual teacher. Basically, a year of a core subject was wasted. I still believe it is a good school, but that class was a real disappointment to him.

The non religious privates are as progressive and "Marxist" as it gets. Reminds me of the kerfuffle at Dalton

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/inside-the-antiracism-tug-of-war-at-an-elite-nyc-private-school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wbez.org/stories/ctu-president-is-sending-her-son-to-private-school-calling-it-a-result-of-unfair-choices-for-south-side-families/f7216085-7435-476b-a51d-125b46902774

But how will he do at Google if he’s not totally deprived in high school?!

Talk about a red herring! If I don’t spend 60k per year per kid my kids will end up in an underperforming urban school in the most violent city in the US. Goodness!

I don’t want you to spend $60k on a private school, particularly if you don’t think anything about the experience is helpful to kids. I do think it’s worthwhile and I’m glad there is a place for families like mine, but no knocks on public school it’s just not for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The poster is only going to push back about spoiled privileged children no matter what explanation is provided.

Recommend ignore and move on. Everyone is making the best decision they can for their particular children.

I do think it’s hilarious how that poster pretends she is a hiring manager when we all know she sits on DCUM 24 hours a day in her smelly hoarded basement.

[Anonymous]

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We do private for the small class sizes ( 13-16) and the lack of violence. DD is in MS and doing well. My goal is not for her to get into a top Ivy it’s to enjoy learning and get an education. My friends son at a mcps MS had witnessed 3 fights already and they’ve only at school for 2 weeks.

+1, we are applying to private for HS. Smaller class sizes, an ability to discipline and not tolerate poor behavior. I'm not talking about chair-throwing, I'm talking about basic requirements to sit in your seat, listen to the teacher and do the work. The expectations of the students is above the bare minimum that it is in public.

Our zoned HS has a number of counselors but only one who is officially title the college counselor for 700+ kids. Unless you're top of the top, the average kid is getting little to no attention. "Based on your scores and gpa here's the list of schools you should apply to. Good luck." At the end of the day the academics may or may not be much better than would be available at our supposedly highly rated public, but the overall experience is bound to be a more positive one which counts for a lot.

And what do you think happens when your kid gets a job? You think Google has a career counselor providing an individualized plan to your kid for how to climb the career ladder or even keep their job?

Do you really think that the last several decades of expensive private school students have headed off to college and then they all just collectively fail in their careers? What would give you that impression? They don’t need individualized career counselors, they are exceptionally well prepared and have a strong network they can lean on.

My experience. They flail on the job, significantly underperforming their peers from public and their FA peers from Private. No one cares about your kid’s network at Google, Goldman, Academia, Research, Publishing, Music, Politics. They care about the employee that is going to make them and keep them rich. and powerful. And here is a hint for you, those employees are rarely the kids who were pondering the latte flavors and never had to compete for a club.

I don’t know, most of my Goldman friends came from prep schools by way of the Ivy League. No one seems to penalize them for their coffee habits. I will say they are out of a job early though, feels like about half of my high school class was already retired by our 25th reunion because they were very successful at a young age.

[Anonymous]

I worked at one of the FAANG companies in its earlier years. It was chock full of private school kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you assume they are not indoctrinated with Marxist propaganda at public school?

My child last year at Washington-Liberty had a 10th-grade English teacher who had no problem having a BLM fist in her Back To School Night presentation to the parents. Many of the assigned class books and articles were along those same lines. I wouldn't have minded too much, except the teacher simply dialed it in and did not do any real teaching, kids kind of had to learn English by doing busy-work assignments, and were not taught any critical thinking skills by the actual teacher. Basically, a year of a core subject was wasted. I still believe it is a good school, but that class was a real disappointment to him.

The non religious privates are as progressive and "Marxist" as it gets. Reminds me of the kerfuffle at Dalton

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/inside-the-antiracism-tug-of-war-at-an-elite-nyc-private-school

You clearly have no credibility. PP was referring to a public school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who are against having any type of religion in public school are very vocal about pushing GLBT+ rights, environmental doom, equity, etc... - isn't that just the other side of the coin and a similar indoctrination? Sure, keep religion out of the public school, but also keep progressive ideology out of the school - at least until high school when kids can more clearly think for themselves.

Does the U.S. Constitution contain any prohibitions related to human rights or the environment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I worked at one of the FAANG companies in its earlier years. It was chock full of private school kids.

Like who, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, Sheryl Sandberg, Marissa Mayer? Give me a break! It was fully of Ivy League recruits, the cream rose to the top and the private schools kids moved on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This again

We do private for the small class sizes ( 13-16) and the lack of violence. DD is in MS and doing well. My goal is not for her to get into a top Ivy it’s to enjoy learning and get an education. My friends son at a mcps MS had witnessed 3 fights already and they’ve only at school for 2 weeks.

+1, we are applying to private for HS. Smaller class sizes, an ability to discipline and not tolerate poor behavior. I'm not talking about chair-throwing, I'm talking about basic requirements to sit in your seat, listen to the teacher and do the work. The expectations of the students is above the bare minimum that it is in public.

Our zoned HS has a number of counselors but only one who is officially title the college counselor for 700+ kids. Unless you're top of the top, the average kid is getting little to no attention. "Based on your scores and gpa here's the list of schools you should apply to. Good luck." At the end of the day the academics may or may not be much better than would be available at our supposedly highly rated public, but the overall experience is bound to be a more positive one which counts for a lot.

And what do you think happens when your kid gets a job? You think Google has a career counselor providing an individualized plan to your kid for how to climb the career ladder or even keep their job?

Do you really think that the last several decades of expensive private school students have headed off to college and then they all just collectively fail in their careers? What would give you that impression? They don’t need individualized career counselors, they are exceptionally well prepared and have a strong network they can lean on.

My experience. They flail on the job, significantly underperforming their peers from public and their FA peers from Private. No one cares about your kid’s network at Google, Goldman, Academia, Research, Publishing, Music, Politics. They care about the employee that is going to make them and keep them rich. and powerful. And here is a hint for you, those employees are rarely the kids who were pondering the latte flavors and never had to compete for a club.

I don’t know, most of my Goldman friends came from prep schools by way of the Ivy League. No one seems to penalize them for their coffee habits. I will say they are out of a job early though, feels like about half of my high school class was already retired by our 25th reunion because they were very successful at a young age.

I know, i know David Solomon is roughing it out while your flushed out private school buddies retired young.