Banning AR-15s

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives scream about loss of "family values" and dangerous books in schools, but are totally cool with sending holiday cards of their entire family holding guns, or ads with toddlers holding guns like this one.

Same child is old enough to change his/her gender

Get back to me when changing gender is the number one cause of pediatric death in the USA. But keep on deflecting.

It’s about decisions. If child is old enough to make one major life decision that affects his/her health, that child is old enough to make many

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

We will be because we have the means to. Others don't. Regardless, your comment deflects from the actual point which is that gun crime and knife crime are not the same in terms of bystander risk to communities impacted by violence and cracking down on straw purchase and trafficking in red states WOULD actually help on this front. Limit bulk purchases, require only one weapon purchase per time period (worked to reduce straw purchases in VA). Stop deflecting.

The take the guns out of the hands of criminals in the neighborhood using raids, sweeps, stop and frisk

[Anonymous]

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Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Stop and frisk is like trying to close the barn door after the horses are already out.

How about we MANDATE a hard requirement on background checks for EVERY transfer of ownership of a gun to INCLUDE anyone diagnosed with mental illness to include depression (given the millions of gun suicides) and including anyone with a history of domestic or workplace violence or anger management issues and that EVERY TRANSFER goes into a PERSISTENT SEARCHABLE database. And, any "lost" or "stolen" gun must be reported IMMEDIATELY along with facing consequences for not properly storing or securing your gun. And anyone not complying gets an immediate felony and jail time.

From there on out, every gun used in a crime that is recovered on the streets is traced back to where it came from and the person who possessed it supplied it gets a mandatory felony and jail time.

Doing that would shut down a HUGE percentage of the problems and stop a lot of the fcking around that's contributing to our gun violence epidemic.

It gets guns off the streets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

We will be because we have the means to. Others don't. Regardless, your comment deflects from the actual point which is that gun crime and knife crime are not the same in terms of bystander risk to communities impacted by violence and cracking down on straw purchase and trafficking in red states WOULD actually help on this front. Limit bulk purchases, require only one weapon purchase per time period (worked to reduce straw purchases in VA). Stop deflecting.

The take the guns out of the hands of criminals in the neighborhood using raids, sweeps, stop and frisk

That's running around putting bandaids on the bleed. We need to stop the SUPPLY CHAIN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives scream about loss of "family values" and dangerous books in schools, but are totally cool with sending holiday cards of their entire family holding guns, or ads with toddlers holding guns like this one.

Same child is old enough to change his/her gender

Get back to me when changing gender is the number one cause of pediatric death in the USA. But keep on deflecting.

+100

I care a lot hell of a lot more about whether someone is hiding a gun their pants than whether they are hiding surgery in their pants.

It’s not what you care about. It’s about harm to the individual child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Stop and frisk is like trying to close the barn door after the horses are already out.

How about we MANDATE a hard requirement on background checks for EVERY transfer of ownership of a gun to INCLUDE anyone diagnosed with mental illness to include depression (given the millions of gun suicides) and including anyone with a history of domestic or workplace violence or anger management issues and that EVERY TRANSFER goes into a PERSISTENT SEARCHABLE database. And, any "lost" or "stolen" gun must be reported IMMEDIATELY along with facing consequences for not properly storing or securing your gun. And anyone not complying gets an immediate felony and jail time.

From there on out, every gun used in a crime that is recovered on the streets is traced back to where it came from and the person who possessed it supplied it gets a mandatory felony and jail time.

Doing that would shut down a HUGE percentage of the problems and stop a lot of the fcking around that's contributing to our gun violence epidemic.

It gets guns off the streets.

What I just proposed would get a hell of a lot more illegal guns off the streets than stop and frisk ever will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

We will be because we have the means to. Others don't. Regardless, your comment deflects from the actual point which is that gun crime and knife crime are not the same in terms of bystander risk to communities impacted by violence and cracking down on straw purchase and trafficking in red states WOULD actually help on this front. Limit bulk purchases, require only one weapon purchase per time period (worked to reduce straw purchases in VA). Stop deflecting.

The take the guns out of the hands of criminals in the neighborhood using raids, sweeps, stop and frisk

That's running around putting bandaids on the bleed. We need to stop the SUPPLY CHAIN.

But you’re not willing to do both, of course

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

We will be because we have the means to. Others don't. Regardless, your comment deflects from the actual point which is that gun crime and knife crime are not the same in terms of bystander risk to communities impacted by violence and cracking down on straw purchase and trafficking in red states WOULD actually help on this front. Limit bulk purchases, require only one weapon purchase per time period (worked to reduce straw purchases in VA). Stop deflecting.

The take the guns out of the hands of criminals in the neighborhood using raids, sweeps, stop and frisk

That's running around putting bandaids on the bleed. We need to stop the SUPPLY CHAIN.

But you’re not willing to do both, of course

I am, and I will repeat it.

How about we MANDATE a hard requirement on background checks for EVERY transfer of ownership of a gun to INCLUDE anyone diagnosed with mental illness to include depression (given the millions of gun suicides) and including anyone with a history of domestic or workplace violence or anger management issues and that EVERY TRANSFER goes into a PERSISTENT SEARCHABLE database. And, any "lost" or "stolen" gun must be reported IMMEDIATELY along with facing consequences for not properly storing or securing your gun. And anyone not complying gets an immediate felony and jail time.

From there on out, every gun used in a crime that is recovered on the streets is traced back to where it came from and the person who possessed it supplied it gets a mandatory felony and jail time.

Doing that would shut down a HUGE percentage of the problems and stop a lot of the fcking around that's contributing to our gun violence epidemic.

I am a gun owner, and I am willing to do this. Because, I am a RESPONSIBLE gun owner who actually cares about doing something about gun violence.
If YOU aren't willing to do that then it's YOU who is the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives scream about loss of "family values" and dangerous books in schools, but are totally cool with sending holiday cards of their entire family holding guns, or ads with toddlers holding guns like this one.

Same child is old enough to change his/her gender

Get back to me when changing gender is the number one cause of pediatric death in the USA. But keep on deflecting.

+100

I care a lot hell of a lot more about whether someone is hiding a gun their pants than whether they are hiding surgery in their pants.

It’s not what you care about. It’s about harm to the individual child

Gender change never got a dozen kids in a classroom killed. Totally bizarre and irrelevant to even bring it into the mix of a discussion about guns.

+1 repeatedly, deflection about the actual number one cause of death to children in America. Republicans pretend to care about children, but all of it is a deflection because they care about their guns more than they actually care about children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

NYC implementation of Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional and numerous studies did NOT find that it impacted crime. One did, others didn't. Do you not understand how research works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

NYC says hi

NYC implementation of Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional and numerous studies did NOT find that it impacted crime. One did, others didn't. Do you not understand how research works?

Also do you only care about 2a constitutional rights, but not other constitutional rights? How convenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ban assault weapons
Ban large capacity magazines
Ban bump stocks

Require gun owners, gun and ammunition manufacturers, and gun and ammunition sellers at every level to carry liability insurance akin to automobile insurance.

Make all of the above strictly liable any time their weapon and/or ammunition is used to commit a crime or is improperly or accidentally discharged.

Market forces and the insurance industry will take care of the rest.

civil war sounds great. can't wait

Don't be a drama queen. If the laws change they change. Money will be the key to it as usual.

you have no clue how much danger you are in. A bit like the french nobility in 1788

- and we will hunt down every last one of you ammosexuals, expose you, and - yes

- take your precious little ar15 from your cold dead hands if necessary. You sickos will be eliminated from egalitarian society.

LOL. As if some limp dick beta male like you could ever muster the courage to even confront someone in real life. But by all means, keep flexing on DCUM.

I'm not even the previous poster but I pretty much busted out laughing my ass of laughing at YOU, beta ammosexual. YOU are the little beta clinging to a gun for lack of a functional dick or any real courage, not the PP.

Agreed. The US is the laughing stock of the world. We are supposed to be the land of "freedom" and the "pursuit of happiness" yet we allow crazies to buy assault weapons and gun down children in elementary schools (repeatedly). We are one of the few countries in the world that practices lockdown drills. Our children are traumatized. People are so fearful of each other that if you drive into the wrong driveway or knock on the wrong door you will be shot dead. All in the name of "second ammendment rights." Utterly ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

NP, but not even watching whatever BS this is, every post about actual data, research, and solutions about reducing gun homicides is met with middle school level talk and deflection.

Republicans are NOT serious about focusing on the number one cause of death for children in America. Instead, it's about deflection re: Gender which (last I checked) doesn't show up as a leading statistical cause of death on any list. Deflection, deflection, deflection.

Stop and Frisk is the only supposedly serious solution offered, but the research on Stop and Frisk was not remotely definitive and many studies (when you don't cherry pick one to prove your point) found it didn't actually do anything, on top of the potential for constitutional infringement of rights (which 2a activists should take seriously or they are hypocrites).

Video shows a black man saving an Indian man from a robber armed with a knife, using his handgun. Didn’t even have to put down the six pack of light beer.