Banning AR-15s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well of guns were taken away from democrats that would reduce gun homicides by 95%

The average murderer is a white dude in nowhere America who shoots his ex.

More Americans are clubbed to death every year than are killed by rifles of every kind, including ARs. Banning the AR-15 will do virtually nothing to alter the murder rate in the US.

Raising the federal purchasing age to 21, limiting the number of guns that can be purchased per a time period, require background checks for ammunition. Yes, these things WOULD reduce the rate. We are drowning in guns in part because it's so easy to buy them in bulk as a straw purchase and traffic them out of red America. Don't tell me about knives, I don't need to check the welfare of my sleeping child for drive by knifings.

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

I thought 2a activists took constitutional rights seriously? I guess not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting opinion piece (written by former police officer) about why it's crazy we let civilians buy AR-15s.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/opinions/guns-ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-fanone/index.html

1000000%. This country IS sick and the gun issue will be one of the ones that destroys us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting opinion piece (written by former police officer) about why it's crazy we let civilians buy AR-15s.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/opinions/guns-ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-fanone/index.html

1000000%. This country IS sick and the gun issue will be one of the ones that destroys us.

More Americans are murdered with clubs and bare hands than with all types of rifles, combined. Including ARs.

The idea that civilian ownership of AR-15s will “destroy the country” is so ridiculous and hysterical.

You are ridiculous and hysterical, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting opinion piece (written by former police officer) about why it's crazy we let civilians buy AR-15s.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/opinions/guns-ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-fanone/index.html

1000000%. This country IS sick and the gun issue will be one of the ones that destroys us.

More Americans are murdered with clubs and bare hands than with all types of rifles, combined. Including ARs.

The idea that civilian ownership of AR-15s will “destroy the country” is so ridiculous and hysterical.

You are ridiculous and hysterical, PP.

NP, but forgetting AR-15, most Americans are murdered by guns, not clubs or hands, where did you get that "fist" nonsense? All homicides: 26,031; firearm homicides: 20,958

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

A significant number of firearm deaths don't have the weapon classified so the true breakdown isn't known.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well of guns were taken away from democrats that would reduce gun homicides by 95%

The average murderer is a white dude in nowhere America who shoots his ex.

More Americans are clubbed to death every year than are killed by rifles of every kind, including ARs. Banning the AR-15 will do virtually nothing to alter the murder rate in the US.

Raising the federal purchasing age to 21, limiting the number of guns that can be purchased per a time period, require background checks for ammunition. Yes, these things WOULD reduce the rate. We are drowning in guns in part because it's so easy to buy them in bulk as a straw purchase and traffic them out of red America. Don't tell me about knives, I don't need to check the welfare of my sleeping child for drive by knifings.

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting opinion piece (written by former police officer) about why it's crazy we let civilians buy AR-15s.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/opinions/guns-ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-fanone/index.html

1000000%. This country IS sick and the gun issue will be one of the ones that destroys us.

More Americans are murdered with clubs and bare hands than with all types of rifles, combined. Including ARs.

The idea that civilian ownership of AR-15s will “destroy the country” is so ridiculous and hysterical.

You are ridiculous and hysterical, PP.

When was the last time someone went into a school and within the span of 5 minutes murdered a dozen people with a club or his bare hands?

I'll wait...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ban assault weapons
Ban large capacity magazines
Ban bump stocks

Require gun owners, gun and ammunition manufacturers, and gun and ammunition sellers at every level to carry liability insurance akin to automobile insurance.

Make all of the above strictly liable any time their weapon and/or ammunition is used to commit a crime or is improperly or accidentally discharged.

Market forces and the insurance industry will take care of the rest.

civil war sounds great. can't wait

Don't be a drama queen. If the laws change they change. Money will be the key to it as usual.

you have no clue how much danger you are in. A bit like the french nobility in 1788

No tyranny here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well of guns were taken away from democrats that would reduce gun homicides by 95%

The average murderer is a white dude in nowhere America who shoots his ex.

More Americans are clubbed to death every year than are killed by rifles of every kind, including ARs. Banning the AR-15 will do virtually nothing to alter the murder rate in the US.

Raising the federal purchasing age to 21, limiting the number of guns that can be purchased per a time period, require background checks for ammunition. Yes, these things WOULD reduce the rate. We are drowning in guns in part because it's so easy to buy them in bulk as a straw purchase and traffic them out of red America. Don't tell me about knives, I don't need to check the welfare of my sleeping child for drive by knifings.

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Based on what definitive research? Let me wait for you to cherry pick one study to support your point while ignoring totality of (generally fragile) research findings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ban assault weapons
Ban large capacity magazines
Ban bump stocks

Require gun owners, gun and ammunition manufacturers, and gun and ammunition sellers at every level to carry liability insurance akin to automobile insurance.

Make all of the above strictly liable any time their weapon and/or ammunition is used to commit a crime or is improperly or accidentally discharged.

Market forces and the insurance industry will take care of the rest.

civil war sounds great. can't wait

Don't be a drama queen. If the laws change they change. Money will be the key to it as usual.

you have no clue how much danger you are in. A bit like the french nobility in 1788

- and we will hunt down every last one of you ammosexuals, expose you, and - yes

- take your precious little ar15 from your cold dead hands if necessary. You sickos will be eliminated from egalitarian society.

LOL. As if some limp dick beta male like you could ever muster the courage to even confront someone in real life. But by all means, keep flexing on DCUM.

I'm not even the previous poster but I pretty much busted out laughing my ass of laughing at YOU, beta ammosexual. YOU are the little beta clinging to a gun for lack of a functional dick or any real courage, not the PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well of guns were taken away from democrats that would reduce gun homicides by 95%

The average murderer is a white dude in nowhere America who shoots his ex.

More Americans are clubbed to death every year than are killed by rifles of every kind, including ARs. Banning the AR-15 will do virtually nothing to alter the murder rate in the US.

Raising the federal purchasing age to 21, limiting the number of guns that can be purchased per a time period, require background checks for ammunition. Yes, these things WOULD reduce the rate. We are drowning in guns in part because it's so easy to buy them in bulk as a straw purchase and traffic them out of red America. Don't tell me about knives, I don't need to check the welfare of my sleeping child for drive by knifings.

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Based on what definitive research? Let me wait for you to cherry pick one study to support your point while ignoring totality of (generally fragile) research findings.

DP, and also while you repeatedly ignore real things that are proven to have impact when comparing states with different laws. The problem is the major swiss cheese holes in Red America, where no matter what one state has, criminals easily make bulk straw purchases and traffic. You aren't serious about reduction in crime if you stick your head in the sand about how easy straw purchases and trafficking are in Red states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of the liberal arguments are based on emotion and talking points. They have zero understanding about firearms. I showed libs pictures of 3006, .308win and .223 next to each other and asked them which one would they ban. They all say 3006, and have no idea the smallest one, the .223 is the one the ar-15 uses

I care about rifle wounds because they are most difficult to survive, especially for kids. Working in healthcare, it's very clear people survive handgun wounds (unless to brain/heart of course) far easier than rifle wounds.

I care about guns in general because even if criminals turn to knives, at least I won't have to check my sleeping child anymore to ensure a bullet didn't penetrate their window (and yes, I've had to check my sleeping child due to gun shots in my alley and know of neighbors who found bullets that penetrated windows). At least fewer bystanders caught in targeted drive by shootings; you have to be up close and personal to get a knife wound in.

Might want to move?

We will be because we have the means to. Others don't. Regardless, your comment deflects from the actual point which is that gun crime and knife crime are not the same in terms of bystander risk to communities impacted by violence and cracking down on straw purchase and trafficking in red states WOULD actually help on this front. Limit bulk purchases, require only one weapon purchase per time period (worked to reduce straw purchases in VA). Stop deflecting.

[Anonymous]

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

Stop and frisk is like trying to close the barn door after the horses are already out.

How about we MANDATE a hard requirement on background checks for EVERY transfer of ownership of a gun to INCLUDE anyone diagnosed with mental illness to include depression (given the millions of gun suicides) and including anyone with a history of domestic or workplace violence or anger management issues and that EVERY TRANSFER goes into a PERSISTENT SEARCHABLE database. And, any "lost" or "stolen" gun must be reported IMMEDIATELY along with facing consequences for not properly storing or securing your gun. And anyone not complying gets an immediate felony and jail time.

From there on out, every gun used in a crime that is recovered on the streets is traced back to where it came from and the person who possessed it supplied it gets a mandatory felony and jail time.

Doing that would shut down a HUGE percentage of the problems and stop a lot of the fcking around that's contributing to our gun violence epidemic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m going to buy another just because of this hyperventilation. The first I have kitted ip over my fireplace in Fairfax.

Great, unsecured and visible from a window. But at least you'll have the other one to mount over your commode. Then you'll be ready to chase down the guy who tries to snatch the first one if you don't trip over your own pants.

Realistically, he's going to stay hidden in the bathroom. That's how these things typically go.

Really? https://youtu.be/IFhkcgdkrY8?si=tmmAZH_9j50cF7s6

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well of guns were taken away from democrats that would reduce gun homicides by 95%

The average murderer is a white dude in nowhere America who shoots his ex.

More Americans are clubbed to death every year than are killed by rifles of every kind, including ARs. Banning the AR-15 will do virtually nothing to alter the murder rate in the US.

Raising the federal purchasing age to 21, limiting the number of guns that can be purchased per a time period, require background checks for ammunition. Yes, these things WOULD reduce the rate. We are drowning in guns in part because it's so easy to buy them in bulk as a straw purchase and traffic them out of red America. Don't tell me about knives, I don't need to check the welfare of my sleeping child for drive by knifings.

Wanna get guns out of the hands of people that should not have them? Get back to stop and frisk. That gets guns off the street. If your immediate reaction is to say something about race or profiling, then you aren’t really serious about implementing effective means.

I thought 2a activists took constitutional rights seriously? I guess not.

Constitution is flexible, right?