Fairfax county pilot program to give 750 a month to low income families

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Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


You understand that non-citizens working in the US, pay US taxes too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.


Sounds like a good excuse to divorce my husband and "reconcile" 16 months later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.


Sounds like a good excuse to divorce my husband and "reconcile" 16 months later.


So you are willing to go all through that for 750 a month? Guys. Come on, For a pilot program to see the effects?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.


Sounds like a good excuse to divorce my husband and "reconcile" 16 months later.


You would divorce your husband for $9000 a year? How about that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


You understand that non-citizens working in the US, pay US taxes too?


If I go study abroad in Europe, I pay VAT and all sorts of other taxes too. That doesn't entitle me to all of their benefits like free healthcare and a social pension in retirement. I pay her country's taxes too while traveling abroad. Maybe I should get free healthcare in Japan too because I traveled there?

The lion's share of taxes comes from income tax. Please telle how illegal immigrants pay their legal required amount of income tax while they get paid under the table and how they can pay proper income taxes without a valid I9 not a social security number.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


If you're employed (a requirement for this program), with a total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (another requirement for this program), then you're paying income taxes - whether you are a citizen or not.
Anonymous
The zip codes are:

Richmond Highway, Alexandria; Ft. Belvoir/Mt Vernon, Alexandria; Reston,
Baileys Crossroads; Herndon; Annandale; Springfield/Franconia; Centerville; Chantilly.

Someone is on the take, and I do not mean the recipients of the $750. The county is trying to corral low income minorities to live in these areas. No one has a problem with this?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


You understand that non-citizens working in the US, pay US taxes too?


If I go study abroad in Europe, I pay VAT and all sorts of other taxes too. That doesn't entitle me to all of their benefits like free healthcare and a social pension in retirement. I pay her country's taxes too while traveling abroad. Maybe I should get free healthcare in Japan too because I traveled there?

The lion's share of taxes comes from income tax. Please telle how illegal immigrants pay their legal required amount of income tax while they get paid under the table and how they can pay proper income taxes without a valid I9 not a social security number.


Please explain why you believe that the only two statuses in the US are "citizen" and "illegal immigrant."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The zip codes are:

Richmond Highway, Alexandria; Ft. Belvoir/Mt Vernon, Alexandria; Reston,
Baileys Crossroads; Herndon; Annandale; Springfield/Franconia; Centerville; Chantilly.

Someone is on the take, and I do not mean the recipients of the $750. The county is trying to corral low income minorities to live in these areas. No one has a problem with this?




(The application period for the one hundred eighty (180) randomly-selected families opens on September 23 and closes on October 3.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/news/fairfax-county-pilot-program-provide-2m-guaranteed-income-180-eligible-families

Not that 750 a month is a ton of money, but hasn’t this already been tried other places? Is it scalable?

The nature of this program is that it only works if kept small-scale and it only helps the families selected.

If the county decides to tout the results of this program as a win for equity and decides to implement it for all eligible families, then housing and prices will go up and we will be in the same situation we were already in, except now you have a new welfare dependent population.

The county would be better served by examining the policies that make life unaffordable here in the first place.


It's been tried elsewhere - it was tried in 2020 in the District on very small level and had really great results, from health to crime.
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Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


If you're employed (a requirement for this program), with a total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (another requirement for this program), then you're paying income taxes - whether you are a citizen or not.


Explain how you're paying income taxes, here illegally, and have a valid I9 and social security number that would even allow you to pay income tax.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.



What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.


Preach.


Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?


+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??


The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.



Needs citizenship requirements


Why?


Citizens pay income taxes, citizesn get to benefit from it. Duh.


You understand that non-citizens working in the US, pay US taxes too?


If I go study abroad in Europe, I pay VAT and all sorts of other taxes too. That doesn't entitle me to all of their benefits like free healthcare and a social pension in retirement. I pay her country's taxes too while traveling abroad. Maybe I should get free healthcare in Japan too because I traveled there?

The lion's share of taxes comes from income tax. Please telle how illegal immigrants pay their legal required amount of income tax while they get paid under the table and how they can pay proper income taxes without a valid I9 not a social security number.


Please explain why you believe that the only two statuses in the US are "citizen" and "illegal immigrant."


Please explain on what planet it makes sense for any country in the world to import poor people? Why is it in first world countries like Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany, etc. you're required to show you have a certain level of savings, having a job with a solid salary etc. before you're allowed to stay. You need to prove you won't be a drain on society in every other developed country.
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Zip code criteria is discriminatory.
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