Fairfax county pilot program to give 750 a month to low income families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry, pal. You cannot guilt-shame people about being angry that their tax dollars - which they work hard for - are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached... and even to people who are present illegally. This is some crazy-ass stuff.

Would you feel better if this pilot program required recipients to pay money for the money? Or if the pilot program told the recipients what they had to spend the money on? How about Social Security - are you angry that your tax dollars, which you work hard for, are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached?

I would at least want it tied to US citizenship and maybe 1 year of residence in Fairfax.

The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.

That's not restrictive enough for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry, pal. You cannot guilt-shame people about being angry that their tax dollars - which they work hard for - are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached... and even to people who are present illegally. This is some crazy-ass stuff.

Would you feel better if this pilot program required recipients to pay money for the money? Or if the pilot program told the recipients what they had to spend the money on? How about Social Security - are you angry that your tax dollars, which you work hard for, are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached?

I would at least want it tied to US citizenship and maybe 1 year of residence in Fairfax.

The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.

That's not restrictive enough for you?

NP. I agree with PP. I don’t see anything on that list re US citizenship or length of time in zip code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give a man a fish vs teach them to fish.....

Why is it anyone's God given right to move to someone the wealthiest and most expensive areas of the country, have zero education, zero specialized skills, or zero useful anything, then complain about being poor and demanding they get to extract wealth from the area just because they exist?

I'm so sick and tired of the entitlement mentality from the left these days. They should just be honest and admit they to confiscate wealth and redistribute it for 'equity' purposes. Human beings will never, ever be equal, because some people are much smarter than others, some people will work a lot harder than others, other people will take on more risk than others to start a business. Why should the state redistribute wealth? People are never equal, and you don't deserve freebies just because you exist and breathe air. We will all be equal when we are all equally in the toilet and below mediocre while simultaneously destroying any motivation to create, innovate, and to work hard.

I'm sure handing out freebies helps with poverty. Handing out free cash also helps with inflation, gambling addictions, and idiots buying cars with $1000 per month payments too.

Right?

I only make 100k but I want to live in Greenwich, CT. Someone should subsidize me.

I make a little over 100k and can barely afford my own property taxes in Fairfax County, which are now up to fully10% of my net salary (yes, they were much lower when I bought my house). They’re only going up astronomically every year.

Who is going to subsidize me? It’s absurd and insulting that we will potentially be getting even more fleeced just so other people can get cash handouts.

So, you are either married with a spouse with high income or you cannot afford your house. You have to be living way over your means in a million dollar house. Our property taxes are less than half of yours. V

DP.
No, you are wrong. The person posting could have lived in her house for 20-30 years and have a reasonable mortgage and STILL have outrageous property taxes. The property taxes are based on the value of the home. She could have purchased it for a fraction of what it is worth today.

I hate it when people post on here with their takes when in fact, their takes are totally off base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry, pal. You cannot guilt-shame people about being angry that their tax dollars - which they work hard for - are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached... and even to people who are present illegally. This is some crazy-ass stuff.

Would you feel better if this pilot program required recipients to pay money for the money? Or if the pilot program told the recipients what they had to spend the money on? How about Social Security - are you angry that your tax dollars, which you work hard for, are going to provide free money to people with no strings attached?

At a bare minimum, it should be for US citizens only. And then it should only be for vouchers that go towards housing costs only.

But they shouldn't be getting anything, period. Just move if you can't afford it. I wanna wanna live in Beverly Hills but don't make a million dollars per year. Subsidize my housing there please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

What part of "taxes" do you not get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

What part of "taxes" do you not get?

Taxes for our citizens you parasitic creep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

What part of "taxes" do you not get?

Taxes for our citizens you parasitic creep

That is not how taxes work.

[Anonymous]

It is such a straw man and hideous view of low income people to focus/believe that this money is going to mostly illegal immigrants. And not, you know, your perfectly legal citizen school custodian who shouldn't have to live a gazillion hours away from her workplace.

Oh wait..these low skill, low income, full time jobs should be for seniors and high school students. My bad,. I forgot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??

[Anonymous]

Usually this kind of money, freebies, give aways, grants go to friends of the county workers administering the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??

The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

They are being replaced by robots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're all right. Your custodians, childcare workers, public bus drivers, construction workers, food handlers, hospital staff, etc should all have to live hours outside of where they work.@@

You guys are so gross I can't even. Your premise is that low skilled workers you actually rely on do not get the same privilege as you (living where you work) because they are low skilled and poor?

Meanwhile, you enjoy the benefits of your property values and proximity while begrudging people living at near poverty level some quality of life.

ANd how do you manage this? By painting all poor people as drug addicts, gamblers, welfare queens, illegal immigrants, bad decision makers, and nameless faceless masses sucking your tax dollars away while refusing to see how YOU benefit from the tax structure in FFX county.

In other words, dehumanizing people while engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.

What privilege? Life choices have consequences. I chose to get straight As in high school while other hoodlums were busy Fin around in the streets failing out of their basic classes. I chose to get a college education in a difficult STEM field followed up by more years of graduate school education. I then worked hard to climb the ladder in my field.

My dad was a carpenter and my mom a social worker for the state. Please explain to me this privilege. It's not my duty to work my ass off so that the government can take what I earn and redistribute my money to people who made poorer life choices and earn less as a result.

It's called at will employment. If they feel like they're paid too low then they don't need to do their jobs anymore. They can find better paying ones. If their company doesn't pay enough and cannot get workers, then they'll have to pay more. It's not my job to ensure the make enough money to live. It's an expensive area and they choose to live here. They're free to also relocate to a less expensive area as well. Just because you exist doesn't mean you deserve to extract wealth from others.

Preach.

Absolutely. What part of its not their money do they not get?

+3

Terrible idea- enabling those who could actually work, if they wanted to.

Is there zero incentive to work?? Where are we??

The criteria are:

1. Employed
2. Older than 18
3. Live in Fairfax in 1 of 10 specified zip codes
4. Have at least one child aged 16 or younger living in the household
5. Not receiving any other form of government assistance (for example, SSDI)
6. Total household income at 150-250% of poverty level (for example, $45-75,000 for a household with 4 people)

$750 a month, for 180 randomly-selected eligible families, for 15 months.

Needs citizenship requirements