New FLE program survey live

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.


I agree that there is nothing shameful about puberty and development. It is a part of life and kids need to learn what's going on with their bodies. But I think it's unrealistic to try to teach these topics in co-ed classes. Whether we like it or not, kids in the 4-6th grades are immature and don't have the emotional intelligence to handle these sorts of lessons in a rational way, like they might do with fractions or long division. Kids are shaped by their families, their peers and what they see on TV/movies/online and unfortunately, that means that they are unlikely to have the maturity to handle the lessons together.

Just my 2 cents.


Well said. Refreshing to see basic common sense here, finally. I can just imagine how a coed lesson on ejaculation or putting on a condom would go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.


I agree. I think it will be oaky. A million years ago in the 80s, we had to do our health classes together from grades 3-8. This was in large part because we are a small parachil school with 10 kids per class and not enough staff or time to separate. I mean, it has been more than 30 years, but I don't remember being particularly scarred, and I was certainly more knowledgable than my 9th and 10th grade peers when I switched to public: for the first time in that district, boys and girls were together, and boy were they all surprised about what went on with each other's bodies.


+1,000
Y'all are making this much more complicated/uncomfortable than it needs to be. Sounds like the parents are the ones with issues! Seriously, if we normalize talking about puberty, facts of sex, etc. our kids will be less uncomfortable. People of both sexes (any sexual identity?) can learn about human bodies and puberty together and it WILL BE OK. Yes, uncomfortable for some (many?) kids but that's regardless of who's in the room with them when they hear about it.

Unless you make it not OK at home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.


I agree. I think it will be oaky. A million years ago in the 80s, we had to do our health classes together from grades 3-8. This was in large part because we are a small parachil school with 10 kids per class and not enough staff or time to separate. I mean, it has been more than 30 years, but I don't remember being particularly scarred, and I was certainly more knowledgable than my 9th and 10th grade peers when I switched to public: for the first time in that district, boys and girls were together, and boy were they all surprised about what went on with each other's bodies.


+1,000
Y'all are making this much more complicated/uncomfortable than it needs to be. Sounds like the parents are the ones with issues! Seriously, if we normalize talking about puberty, facts of sex, etc. our kids will be less uncomfortable. People of both sexes (any sexual identity?) can learn about human bodies and puberty together and it WILL BE OK. Yes, uncomfortable for some (many?) kids but that's regardless of who's in the room with them when they hear about it.

Unless you make it not OK at home.


This ks a discussion by and for parents of fcps, not some crazy activist without children who doesn't even live in ffx county and who knows zero about child development or what is age appropriate
Anonymous
Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


The problem is that liberals no longer have any idea what a boy or girl is anymore. Their only solution is pretend they're all the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


I feel very sorry for the biological girls especially. Some will be robbed of their opportunity to learn and feel supported because they won't feel safe. Biological boys don't have blood pouring in their underwear in 6th grade. Or 5th. These are tough years for girls.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.


I agree that there is nothing shameful about puberty and development. It is a part of life and kids need to learn what's going on with their bodies. But I think it's unrealistic to try to teach these topics in co-ed classes. Whether we like it or not, kids in the 4-6th grades are immature and don't have the emotional intelligence to handle these sorts of lessons in a rational way, like they might do with fractions or long division. Kids are shaped by their families, their peers and what they see on TV/movies/online and unfortunately, that means that they are unlikely to have the maturity to handle the lessons together.

Just my 2 cents.


Well said. Refreshing to see basic common sense here, finally. I can just imagine how a coed lesson on ejaculation or putting on a condom would go.


Putting on a condom isn’t part of any lesson in elementary school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


I feel very sorry for the biological girls especially. Some will be robbed of their opportunity to learn and feel supported because they won't feel safe. Biological boys don't have blood pouring in their underwear in 6th grade. Or 5th. These are tough years for girls.


+1 do you mean “assigned females at birth”?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would love FLE to be taught co-ed and yes, I do have a daughter. Separating gives the illusion that there is something shameful or worth hiding about puberty and development. Teaching everyone together means everyone gets the same information and it's presented just like the math, science or language arts is.


I agree. I think it will be oaky. A million years ago in the 80s, we had to do our health classes together from grades 3-8. This was in large part because we are a small parachil school with 10 kids per class and not enough staff or time to separate. I mean, it has been more than 30 years, but I don't remember being particularly scarred, and I was certainly more knowledgable than my 9th and 10th grade peers when I switched to public: for the first time in that district, boys and girls were together, and boy were they all surprised about what went on with each other's bodies.


+1,000
Y'all are making this much more complicated/uncomfortable than it needs to be. Sounds like the parents are the ones with issues! Seriously, if we normalize talking about puberty, facts of sex, etc. our kids will be less uncomfortable. People of both sexes (any sexual identity?) can learn about human bodies and puberty together and it WILL BE OK. Yes, uncomfortable for some (many?) kids but that's regardless of who's in the room with them when they hear about it.

Unless you make it not OK at home.


This ks a discussion by and for parents of fcps, not some crazy activist without children who doesn't even live in ffx county and who knows zero about child development or what is age appropriate


I'm an FCPS parent and teacher, actually. Not a "crazy activist" from elsewhere. I stand by my statement.

To the parent concerned about girls bleeding into their underwear needing/getting support from their large, impersonal HPE/FLE class...really? I'm sympathetic as a woman and a mom of a daughter but don't expect that to be the place for deep sharing of experiences. I understand not everyone here agrees but honestly think having mixed-gender discussions from an early age is the best way to contribute to both informing our kids and making them comfortable with themselves.
Anonymous
They always ask for input but board members will do what they want to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


My kids are in college now, but they spoke about FLE as being hugely mortifying when they were in FCPS. I can only imagine the horror if they were taught in a combined class. Anyone thinking that's a good idea needs their head examined.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


My kids are in college now, but they spoke about FLE as being hugely mortifying when they were in FCPS. I can only imagine the horror if they were taught in a combined class. Anyone thinking that's a good idea needs their head examined.


If teachers would just stop being biased, if we just combine the classes instead of separate them, then children will stop being mortified and will be comfortable with themselves and each other!!!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


My kids are in college now, but they spoke about FLE as being hugely mortifying when they were in FCPS. I can only imagine the horror if they were taught in a combined class. Anyone thinking that's a good idea needs their head examined.


If teachers would just stop being biased, if we just combine the classes instead of separate them, then children will stop being mortified and will be comfortable with themselves and each other!!!!!



Children are mortified when their are kissing scenes in movies. All of this is normal. It comes down to emotional maturity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


My kids are in college now, but they spoke about FLE as being hugely mortifying when they were in FCPS. I can only imagine the horror if they were taught in a combined class. Anyone thinking that's a good idea needs their head examined.


If teachers would just stop being biased, if we just combine the classes instead of separate them, then children will stop being mortified and will be comfortable with themselves and each other!!!!!



Children are mortified when their are kissing scenes in movies. All of this is normal. It comes down to emotional maturity.



There*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone asked their kids if they would prefer separating FLE by gender or doing a combined class? My 6th grader is solidly in the camp of keeping them separate.

Also, thinking back on my own experience, the girls asked a lot of questions that they would never would have asked with boys in the room.


My kids are in college now, but they spoke about FLE as being hugely mortifying when they were in FCPS. I can only imagine the horror if they were taught in a combined class. Anyone thinking that's a good idea needs their head examined.


If teachers would just stop being biased, if we just combine the classes instead of separate them, then children will stop being mortified and will be comfortable with themselves and each other!!!!!


No thanks. And how are teachers being "biased"? Weird comment.
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