The Kennedy Center is ridiculous for still requiring masks

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Anonymous wrote:COVID is endemic. Get used to it.

There are certain circumstances in which a minor inconvenience is worth the benefit. Shutting down an entire Broadway is what happens when a cast member is positive. Cancelling shows not only impacts the actors you see on stage, but everyone involved in its production. No one gets paid. The ripple effect of money loss impacts people already struggling to pay rent/utilities/food. I really wonder about the morals and basic human decency of the people who complain about wearing a mask in this circumstance. Think about the world bigger than yourself.

You act so high and mighty and yet apparently have no clue that masks have been optional for Broadway shows since July, with a select few exceptions.

DC, being the center of Global Science, knows better

At first I thought you were joking but sadly I think you're serious. DC is its own little Covid obsessed world.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

Take a chill pill. We can see your spittle and purple worked up face from here. This is not good for your angina.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID is endemic. Get used to it.

There are certain circumstances in which a minor inconvenience is worth the benefit. Shutting down an entire Broadway is what happens when a cast member is positive. Cancelling shows not only impacts the actors you see on stage, but everyone involved in its production. No one gets paid. The ripple effect of money loss impacts people already struggling to pay rent/utilities/food. I really wonder about the morals and basic human decency of the people who complain about wearing a mask in this circumstance. Think about the world bigger than yourself.

You act so high and mighty and yet apparently have no clue that masks have been optional for Broadway shows since July, with a select few exceptions.

I'm talking about Broadway plays at the Kennedy Center or National Theatre where masks ARE required. There's nothing high and mighty about following rules and treating others with respect.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing Hamilton this week and did not realize until I received my ‘reminder’ email that this is still a requirement. They have to be one of the only places (with the exception of hospitals/doctor’s offices) to require this!

Will really dampen the experience.

Omg omg omg the sky is falling op has to wear a non invasive mask omg it’s so hard so so hard

I’d worry more about the state of the world that your boy stole $4 mill from 9/11 the First Respnders fund

But hey we all know wearing a mask is so so difficult 🤣

You do know that not everyone who understands the futility of mask rules is a republican, right? Some of us are fully vaccinated Democrats who understand the data on cloth and thin surgical masks.

DP. You do you and stay away from performances, then. I've been to plenty, I wear an N95 or sometimes a KN95 (so... not "cloth and thin surgical masks" because I, just like you, "understand the data" on those) and most of the people I see there are wearing KN95s and N95s. The few who are indeed wearing surgical masks tend to be older people, who likely are more vulnerable if they catch Covid. Whatever. At least their exhalations are somewhat covered and most of the rest of us are wearing effective masks and enjoying the shows, and not thinking about those of you who turn up your unmasked noses at venues who are setting their own rules they way they want. Follow the rules or don't go. It's simple. Whine about "the futility of mask rules" all you like but it won't get you through the door of any venue where they require masking and won't affect those of us who are glad to be there, period.

From another fully vaccinated Democrat who wants to go to the theater far more than I want to make some point about masking.

Oh we still go and enjoy the shows. We just wear large surgical masks without the nose wire bent so the air can flow all around. If you someone find that reassuring, good for you.

You are an embarrassment.

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The people who take glee at skirting the rules are appalling. It’s not like this is a heavy lift.

Not skirting the rules. It says I have to wear "a mask" and I am. It says nothing about what kind.

DP. Venues are reluctant to require any specific type of mask because arrogant showoffs who insist they are wearing masks under duress will go apes**t if they're not only told, you must mask, but also told, you must wear a KN95 or N95. Venues are doing the best they can in the face of those of you who come, but sulk and have your tantrums online about how you'll wear "cheesecloth" (as one PP proudly said) and loosen it all up so that air flows freely. My sympathy for any of you when you get Covid is less than zero, but my sympathy for those strangers you infect in your day to day lives is huge. But of course I'm wrong because "Covid is over, Covid is endemic, Covid is no big deal." Tell that to long-haulers. And get an education. It's almost impossible to know in advance who will have a "mere cold" and who will end up with long Covid. But you'll do what you want because you have no concept of public health as a responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing Hamilton this week and did not realize until I received my ‘reminder’ email that this is still a requirement. They have to be one of the only places (with the exception of hospitals/doctor’s offices) to require this!

Will really dampen the experience.

Omg omg omg the sky is falling op has to wear a non invasive mask omg it’s so hard so so hard

I’d worry more about the state of the world that your boy stole $4 mill from 9/11 the First Respnders fund

But hey we all know wearing a mask is so so difficult 🤣

You do know that not everyone who understands the futility of mask rules is a republican, right? Some of us are fully vaccinated Democrats who understand the data on cloth and thin surgical masks.

DP. You do you and stay away from performances, then. I've been to plenty, I wear an N95 or sometimes a KN95 (so... not "cloth and thin surgical masks" because I, just like you, "understand the data" on those) and most of the people I see there are wearing KN95s and N95s. The few who are indeed wearing surgical masks tend to be older people, who likely are more vulnerable if they catch Covid. Whatever. At least their exhalations are somewhat covered and most of the rest of us are wearing effective masks and enjoying the shows, and not thinking about those of you who turn up your unmasked noses at venues who are setting their own rules they way they want. Follow the rules or don't go. It's simple. Whine about "the futility of mask rules" all you like but it won't get you through the door of any venue where they require masking and won't affect those of us who are glad to be there, period.

From another fully vaccinated Democrat who wants to go to the theater far more than I want to make some point about masking.

Oh we still go and enjoy the shows. We just wear large surgical masks without the nose wire bent so the air can flow all around. If you someone find that reassuring, good for you.

You are an embarrassment.

+1

The people who take glee at skirting the rules are appalling. It’s not like this is a heavy lift.

Not skirting the rules. It says I have to wear "a mask" and I am. It says nothing about what kind.

DP. Venues are reluctant to require any specific type of mask because arrogant showoffs who insist they are wearing masks under duress will go apes**t if they're not only told, you must mask, but also told, you must wear a KN95 or N95. Venues are doing the best they can in the face of those of you who come, but sulk and have your tantrums online about how you'll wear "cheesecloth" (as one PP proudly said) and loosen it all up so that air flows freely. My sympathy for any of you when you get Covid is less than zero, but my sympathy for those strangers you infect in your day to day lives is huge. But of course I'm wrong because "Covid is over, Covid is endemic, Covid is no big deal." Tell that to long-haulers. And get an education. It's almost impossible to know in advance who will have a "mere cold" and who will end up with long Covid. But you'll do what you want because you have no concept of public health as a responsibility.

Seems like you're the one who's worked up here. Perhaps work on your anger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID is endemic. Get used to it.

There are certain circumstances in which a minor inconvenience is worth the benefit. Shutting down an entire Broadway is what happens when a cast member is positive. Cancelling shows not only impacts the actors you see on stage, but everyone involved in its production. No one gets paid. The ripple effect of money loss impacts people already struggling to pay rent/utilities/food. I really wonder about the morals and basic human decency of the people who complain about wearing a mask in this circumstance. Think about the world bigger than yourself.

+1,000

Someone leaped on you earlier, PP, for mentioning Broadway where masks are now optional, I know you meant Broadway shows at the KC. But I'll add that I know a couple of people who work in theater in NY and DC, and the crews and casts would much rather audiences were still masking, especially as there's no way to tell if people are truly vaccinated or not (cards don't mean a lot). But the theaters must get backsides into seats or they'll fail and the whole theater business will suffer even more than it already has over the past two years. People who go to the occasional big production at the Kennedy Center and nothing else don't want to realize that there are jobbing actors, crew members, front of house staff, production staff, cleaners, concessionaires in hundreds of theaters all over the country, not just on Broadway and at the KC, who ALL depend on shows going forward in order to pay their bills.

Another snarky PP mentioned not "buying it" that the theater world is really concerned, unless productions keep everyone in a bubble. Some theaters actually did that during the worst of the pandemic, doing productions with no in-person audience and streaming the shows, and asking actors and certain crew to go into bubbles for weeks on end. It was noble and created some moving theater, but it is not permanently sustainable because actors and crew have families too. Productions are testing everyone, every day, and being very alert about testing and exposures, but what else can they do, other than mask ON stage? Then we'd have PPs here screaming about how they didn't pay to see masked actors. So asking audiences to mask is at least an attempt to acknowledge that performers and crews are there among hundreds of total strangers, show after show after show.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing Hamilton this week and did not realize until I received my ‘reminder’ email that this is still a requirement. They have to be one of the only places (with the exception of hospitals/doctor’s offices) to require this!

Will really dampen the experience.

Omg omg omg the sky is falling op has to wear a non invasive mask omg it’s so hard so so hard

I’d worry more about the state of the world that your boy stole $4 mill from 9/11 the First Respnders fund

But hey we all know wearing a mask is so so difficult 🤣

You do know that not everyone who understands the futility of mask rules is a republican, right? Some of us are fully vaccinated Democrats who understand the data on cloth and thin surgical masks.

DP. You do you and stay away from performances, then. I've been to plenty, I wear an N95 or sometimes a KN95 (so... not "cloth and thin surgical masks" because I, just like you, "understand the data" on those) and most of the people I see there are wearing KN95s and N95s. The few who are indeed wearing surgical masks tend to be older people, who likely are more vulnerable if they catch Covid. Whatever. At least their exhalations are somewhat covered and most of the rest of us are wearing effective masks and enjoying the shows, and not thinking about those of you who turn up your unmasked noses at venues who are setting their own rules they way they want. Follow the rules or don't go. It's simple. Whine about "the futility of mask rules" all you like but it won't get you through the door of any venue where they require masking and won't affect those of us who are glad to be there, period.

From another fully vaccinated Democrat who wants to go to the theater far more than I want to make some point about masking.

Oh we still go and enjoy the shows. We just wear large surgical masks without the nose wire bent so the air can flow all around. If you someone find that reassuring, good for you.

You are an embarrassment.

+1

The people who take glee at skirting the rules are appalling. It’s not like this is a heavy lift.

Not skirting the rules. It says I have to wear "a mask" and I am. It says nothing about what kind.

DP. Venues are reluctant to require any specific type of mask because arrogant showoffs who insist they are wearing masks under duress will go apes**t if they're not only told, you must mask, but also told, you must wear a KN95 or N95. Venues are doing the best they can in the face of those of you who come, but sulk and have your tantrums online about how you'll wear "cheesecloth" (as one PP proudly said) and loosen it all up so that air flows freely. My sympathy for any of you when you get Covid is less than zero, but my sympathy for those strangers you infect in your day to day lives is huge. But of course I'm wrong because "Covid is over, Covid is endemic, Covid is no big deal." Tell that to long-haulers. And get an education. It's almost impossible to know in advance who will have a "mere cold" and who will end up with long Covid. But you'll do what you want because you have no concept of public health as a responsibility.

Seems like you're the one who's worked up here. Perhaps work on your anger.

A classic DCUM non-response response. Perhaps work on your reading and writing skills. If you can't argue your point effectively, you revert to this nonsense reply.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

[Anonymous]

Well, I won’t be going into a room the size of a theater with unmasked people for the duration. So if y’all succeed in getting the KC to end the mask requirement, enjoy yourselves in there.

I’m hoping the chemo is successful.

[Anonymous]

Boston Opera House still requires them too. I do think it makes sense in these venues. If half a Broadway show goes out with covid, or a lot of the venue staff, the show will not go on.

And I know more people who will buy tickets for those venues purposefully bc masks are required than I do people who won't go because of it.

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It's truly "mask theater" - in every sense. Utterly absurd at this point. Schools do not require masks. Workplaces do not require masks. But the Kennedy Center does? BIG eyeroll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing Hamilton this week and did not realize until I received my ‘reminder’ email that this is still a requirement. They have to be one of the only places (with the exception of hospitals/doctor’s offices) to require this!

Will really dampen the experience.

How triple woke: masks at Hamilton in DC in September 2022! Kudos to you. That is some sort of special.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Broadway is still requiring masks, so it seems they are in line with what their arts peers in others major cities are doing.

Sorry, NO ONE in Europe is requiring masks.

If Broadway and DC still are, I wonder what's wrong with you fellas?

Funny how everyone is coming home from Europe with covid. Or two weeks of “bronchitis”.

Yup, EVERYONE.

I love US science these days. Men get pregnant right?

What’s a “man”??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

Common sense should tell you that masks don’t really accomplish much. COVID spread and there wasn’t a huge difference between states where everyone masked and states with low mask wearing. Masks simply didn’t keep most people from catching covid.