Tell me about redshirting your late summer/fall birthday son before Kindergarten

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Anonymous wrote:My late November son started Kindergarten at 4 y.o. In NYC public, there is no option to redshirt.
He entered Stuy as a 13 year old freshman with a very high SHSAT score last fall.
He's never fallen behind academically.
Given his age, he has the luxury of taking a gap year after high school without feeling like he's on the older side when he starts college.

That is correct that redshirting in not allowed in New York. Rightfully so.

New York City Public Schools*

Not New York as a whole. I grew up in Westchester, fall birthday, and started K as an old 5 rather than an old 4. It's allowed.

OP here. Still catching up on responses but yes this is right. NYC public schools don’t allow redshirting. The private schools actually require it with September 1st cutoffs. We are in a suburb where the district cutoff is also 12/31 but they do allow redshirting. We are planning on a suburb private school that also has a 12/31 cutoff but allows redshirting. Everything here except nyc public schools are flexible. And quite frankly it makes no sense that the cutoff dates are not decided at a national level to create a more accurate baseline for standardized testing and eventually college admissions. I wouldn’t necessarily feel compelled to hold back if my young fall birthday child wouldn’t be attending school with and being compared to kids a full year older than him

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Anonymous wrote:Are there that many parents on here who have children with severe learning disabilities that require them to delay starting on time?

Mine had none - he's at MIT now, but had maturity and social delays. Delaying doesn't help learning issues, only social ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

Pot calling kettle. You shouldn’t presume either.

Again, bizarre. This is about my kid on a thread asking for parents to respond about their experiences. Please do so for YOUR child without second guessing the responses of others about their own.
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Basically you want only responces that agree with you for validation.

What are you even talking about? I’m not OP and I’m not looking for anyone’s responses.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

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Anonymous wrote:My late November son started Kindergarten at 4 y.o. In NYC public, there is no option to redshirt.
He entered Stuy as a 13 year old freshman with a very high SHSAT score last fall.
He's never fallen behind academically.
Given his age, he has the luxury of taking a gap year after high school without feeling like he's on the older side when he starts college.

That is correct that redshirting in not allowed in New York. Rightfully so.

Only in public schools and even then it’s not as strict as you make out. Also, when the rest of the country allows it and NY doesn’t, maybe NY is wrong. God knows they are hardly a paradigm of exceptional education in other respects.

Allowing redshirting is a paradigm of exceptional education?

Yes.

God knows it sure is not the NYC public school system.

Because red-shirting every child is the way. Okay, you.
In your case, it may be justified to red-shirt you.

NP. Why do you care if other people choose to redshirt THEIR children? I don’t understand why the anti redshirting people feel so strongly about other parents’ choices. My DD was born in October, but were she born in august or September ai might have redshirted her. Either way, I don’t care what other people choose to do for THEIR kids. What is it to you? Does it put your child at a disadvantage? I don’t see the pro redshirting people care at all about parents that choose to send their kids on time… bizarre

You are so dense. Of course the pro redshirters “don’t care” that others send their kids on time. (They do care) That’s the point of redshirting, to not send kid on time which is what they do and want others to send in time. Otherwise, they would lose their “advantage.”

So you are jealous. I get it. You should redshirt your child if you think he/she is at such a disadvantage. Nobody else here is in a competition with you and is just thinking about what is best for their child. They will not send their kids on time because you bully them or because it is a disadvantage to your kid. Just stop

Jealous that your child is delayed and needs to be held back? I don’t think anyone would be jealous if that. You are in a competition, that’s the point of redshirting.

My child is not delayed and excelling in everything. Apart from that, I want my child to be happy, have friends, etc. I don’t want him to be the best and anything, but I want him to be happy. I feel bad for your kids since you clearly don’t want the same for them.

Honey, your child is delayed which is why you are a redshirt advocate. I don’t need to redshirt my child in order to be happy. Plenty of non redshirted children are happy. I feel bad for your kid in all ways.

That’s amazing that you can diagnose PP’s kid like that! To think that people spend thousands of dollars on evaluations when you could just figure it out by reading a DCUM post. Incredible. How long have you had this gift?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there that many parents on here who have children with severe learning disabilities that require them to delay starting on time?

Mine had none - he's at MIT now, but had maturity and social delays. Delaying doesn't help learning issues, only social ones.

Kindergartners all have social issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

No one is bashing. We are concerned for kids whose parents choose to ignore their delays and special needs by holding them back a year vs. getting them the help they need to be successful. That is the point. If you are saying your child has delays, holding back doesn't change things, it delays things and these kids will always have the delays.

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Anonymous wrote:My late November son started Kindergarten at 4 y.o. In NYC public, there is no option to redshirt.
He entered Stuy as a 13 year old freshman with a very high SHSAT score last fall.
He's never fallen behind academically.
Given his age, he has the luxury of taking a gap year after high school without feeling like he's on the older side when he starts college.

That is correct that redshirting in not allowed in New York. Rightfully so.

Only in public schools and even then it’s not as strict as you make out. Also, when the rest of the country allows it and NY doesn’t, maybe NY is wrong. God knows they are hardly a paradigm of exceptional education in other respects.

Allowing redshirting is a paradigm of exceptional education?

Yes.

God knows it sure is not the NYC public school system.

Because red-shirting every child is the way. Okay, you.
In your case, it may be justified to red-shirt you.

NP. Why do you care if other people choose to redshirt THEIR children? I don’t understand why the anti redshirting people feel so strongly about other parents’ choices. My DD was born in October, but were she born in august or September ai might have redshirted her. Either way, I don’t care what other people choose to do for THEIR kids. What is it to you? Does it put your child at a disadvantage? I don’t see the pro redshirting people care at all about parents that choose to send their kids on time… bizarre

You are so dense. Of course the pro redshirters “don’t care” that others send their kids on time. (They do care) That’s the point of redshirting, to not send kid on time which is what they do and want others to send in time. Otherwise, they would lose their “advantage.”

So you are jealous. I get it. You should redshirt your child if you think he/she is at such a disadvantage. Nobody else here is in a competition with you and is just thinking about what is best for their child. They will not send their kids on time because you bully them or because it is a disadvantage to your kid. Just stop

Jealous that your child is delayed and needs to be held back? I don’t think anyone would be jealous if that. You are in a competition, that’s the point of redshirting.

My child is not delayed and excelling in everything. Apart from that, I want my child to be happy, have friends, etc. I don’t want him to be the best and anything, but I want him to be happy. I feel bad for your kids since you clearly don’t want the same for them.

Honey, your child is delayed which is why you are a redshirt advocate. I don’t need to redshirt my child in order to be happy. Plenty of non redshirted children are happy. I feel bad for your kid in all ways.

That’s amazing that you can diagnose PP’s kid like that! To think that people spend thousands of dollars on evaluations when you could just figure it out by reading a DCUM post. Incredible. How long have you had this gift?

It’s amazing that you can put your pants on.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

No one is bashing. We are concerned for kids whose parents choose to ignore their delays and special needs by holding them back a year vs. getting them the help they need to be successful. That is the point. If you are saying your child has delays, holding back doesn't change things, it delays things and these kids will always have the delays.

100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

No one is bashing. We are concerned for kids whose parents choose to ignore their delays and special needs by holding them back a year vs. getting them the help they need to be successful. That is the point. If you are saying your child has delays, holding back doesn't change things, it delays things and these kids will always have the delays.

Except I never once said that, because my child didn’t. I’m saying I chose to wait another year with no regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

No one is bashing. We are concerned for kids whose parents choose to ignore their delays and special needs by holding them back a year vs. getting them the help they need to be successful. That is the point. If you are saying your child has delays, holding back doesn't change things, it delays things and these kids will always have the delays.

Yeah no. Replying “hahahaha” to someone else’s experience is absolutely bashing, and juvenile too.

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Anonymous wrote:My late November son started Kindergarten at 4 y.o. In NYC public, there is no option to redshirt.
He entered Stuy as a 13 year old freshman with a very high SHSAT score last fall.
He's never fallen behind academically.
Given his age, he has the luxury of taking a gap year after high school without feeling like he's on the older side when he starts college.

That is correct that redshirting in not allowed in New York. Rightfully so.

Only in public schools and even then it’s not as strict as you make out. Also, when the rest of the country allows it and NY doesn’t, maybe NY is wrong. God knows they are hardly a paradigm of exceptional education in other respects.

Allowing redshirting is a paradigm of exceptional education?

Yes.

God knows it sure is not the NYC public school system.

Because red-shirting every child is the way. Okay, you.
In your case, it may be justified to red-shirt you.

NP. Why do you care if other people choose to redshirt THEIR children? I don’t understand why the anti redshirting people feel so strongly about other parents’ choices. My DD was born in October, but were she born in august or September ai might have redshirted her. Either way, I don’t care what other people choose to do for THEIR kids. What is it to you? Does it put your child at a disadvantage? I don’t see the pro redshirting people care at all about parents that choose to send their kids on time… bizarre

You are so dense. Of course the pro redshirters “don’t care” that others send their kids on time. (They do care) That’s the point of redshirting, to not send kid on time which is what they do and want others to send in time. Otherwise, they would lose their “advantage.”

So you are jealous. I get it. You should redshirt your child if you think he/she is at such a disadvantage. Nobody else here is in a competition with you and is just thinking about what is best for their child. They will not send their kids on time because you bully them or because it is a disadvantage to your kid. Just stop

Jealous that your child is delayed and needs to be held back? I don’t think anyone would be jealous if that. You are in a competition, that’s the point of redshirting.

My child is not delayed and excelling in everything. Apart from that, I want my child to be happy, have friends, etc. I don’t want him to be the best and anything, but I want him to be happy. I feel bad for your kids since you clearly don’t want the same for them.

Honey, your child is delayed which is why you are a redshirt advocate. I don’t need to redshirt my child in order to be happy. Plenty of non redshirted children are happy. I feel bad for your kid in all ways.

That’s amazing that you can diagnose PP’s kid like that! To think that people spend thousands of dollars on evaluations when you could just figure it out by reading a DCUM post. Incredible. How long have you had this gift?

It’s amazing that you can put your pants on.

This response makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:We did with a June birthday. We just knew he wasn’t ready. Best decision ever. Turns out he has some leaning disabilities. Had we sent him on time he would have struggled even more than he is now.

Here’s that “best decision ever” that earlier post correctly stated every red-shirter just automatically says.

The best decision would have been to get that child evaluated early on and get them help.

You have no idea what was the best decision for my kid.

That was what was best with you if you just ignored the issues and delayed it a year. If your child had learning disabilities, you get them tested and help asap and not wait.

You are making the assumption that people that redshirt have learning disabilities.

That’s not true for any of the families that I know personally that have redshirted. Literally not a single one.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirted my July bday son now in seventh grade. I haven’t regretted it once! One of our best parenting decisions made based on the teacher’s recommendations.

Hahahhahahahaaahhah! “Best decision” and “teacher recommendation”. On repeat! Hahahhahahahahahah!

Such a bizarre response. You have parents with many years having passed since the decision was made and with time to see how it worked out. If you regret your redshirting decision, or decision not to redshirt, then share. But don’t presume to know what was best for other people’s kids.

I have shared. I regretted it. Kid skipped K. to make up for it. Years later, even with the developmental delays, holding back made no sense. Instead we addressed the issue so the child could be successful.

Great! So OP can read your experience and also read mine and make the decision that’s best for OP’s child. No need to bash those who made a different choice (and are thrilled with the results).

“Bashing” those who force disparities onto others is not bashing.

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Anonymous wrote:We did with a June birthday. We just knew he wasn’t ready. Best decision ever. Turns out he has some leaning disabilities. Had we sent him on time he would have struggled even more than he is now.

Here’s that “best decision ever” that earlier post correctly stated every red-shirter just automatically says.

The best decision would have been to get that child evaluated early on and get them help.

You have no idea what was the best decision for my kid.

That was what was best with you if you just ignored the issues and delayed it a year. If your child had learning disabilities, you get them tested and help asap and not wait.

You are making the assumption that people that redshirt have learning disabilities.

That’s not true for any of the families that I know personally that have redshirted. Literally not a single one.

You say that like it’s a good thing.