NCS college admissions if kid is not a legacy, URM, or athletic recruit

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost a straight A student in lower high school (a few A minuses). She works really hard for these grades. I've been looking at the college admissions this year and it really seems like you have about 25 girls going ti top colleges and (outside of two girls) ALL are legacy, URM or crew athletes. Then the admissions seem to go off a cliff. thank goodness for u of Chicagj because that seems it be the solo outlier.
I am not looking for an IVY admit (at all) but I'm getting freaked out by the schools that girls outside of the above categories are attending. I won't name names but they're in instagram.

Tell it to my straight. A/a- student.
Did anyone apply their daughter from NCS this year? Where are we looking at?

Op you are a stalker of minor age children and it is creepy. Get a life.

Not to mention The fact that they took the time to look up where every single student was going to college and determine what category they should be in a URM, hook, etc. I don’t think it’s in NCS parent it might be an Ncs girl or someone from another school

Have you met NCS moms? They are 100% capable of this behavior. OP refuses to let us know how she conducted her research. I assume she took out her directory, got the parents' names, then checked their LinkedIns. If OP had spent her life more productively and meaningfully, maybe she too would have a "hooked" kid, instead of a one-dimensional A- student.

Doesn't take that long frankly. 12/13 kids. With the directory, less than 10-15 mins of Linkedin research. And clarifies the picture re legacies completely. Not sure why this is somehow not a cool thing to do. The placement outcomes are hugely misleading as to actual chances for an unhooked kid. Now, we know.

No hon normal people do not spend their time doing this. OP Please get psychiatric help asap. I am confident you are a troll and not an NCS parent but a very jealous loon that also posted the “STA college is dismal” post. A quick ip check would determine whether you are the op of both. Troll poster.

New poster. Someone could just as easily say that normal people do not spend their time posting on this message board, do not suggest to anonymous strangers on the internet that they get psychiatric help, and do not try to do internet sleuthing to determine whether someone is a troll. But you do you.

I think the OP and the person who is writing all these details about every student in the grade is very creepy and honestly it’s bordering on stalking and if I were parents in that grade I would be worried and concerned and make some kind of a formal complaint.

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Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Her original question wasn’t what prompted so many negative replies as her subsequent replies which if you read the thread give very very specific information about every single girl in the grade. That is what people considered creepy and stalking.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Her original question wasn’t what prompted so many negative replies as her subsequent replies which if you read the thread give very very specific information about every single girl in the grade. That is what people considered creepy and stalking.

New poster here.
Please reference the post where every single girl's college destination is given.
OP mentions where girls are not going but I don't see any post where she mentions where kids are going, aside from mentioning U of Chicago (which is where kids go every year--not exactly a shocker).
It appears to be a different poster who mentions Tulane, BC, BU.
Those are also the only names that I can find mentioned in any post.

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If you want to a school really dragging it's college process through the mud here are 85 current pages on Sidwell.


https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1185/1039243.page#22539247

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

See, now this is just plain nasty. I SAID she was a better student, didn't I? I SAID she had better grades, better test scores, and was more athletic. As far as being more "polished," well, I don't know about that one. She and her BFF are still good friends (s I said, they ended up in college together) and I don't see any difference between the two of them on the "polished" front.

My point was simply that it didn't seem that making the switch helped her in any material way in the college admissions front. That's all.

And I assume you didn't go to NCS yourself -- you're hardly "polished"or educated if your first instinct is to attack before reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

WTF? I am an NCS parent with a child at one of these schools and I couldn’t be prouder. Grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

This. It's not about getting into whatever college. In life, there are always people who "ended up" at the same place or different places from various paths. That's ok, it's not some kind of competition. It's about the value of the education and the experience, developing curiosity, becoming a good writer, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

I am also not at NCS but my daughter is, though we have not been there long. I am so impressed by the older girls at NCS. They seem so much more mature than I was in high school and I would bet most of them will knock college out of the park. These are the sort of people who are prepared to get the most out of the college experience, wherever they go, because they are used to being involved and talking to their teachers and being part of an intellectual community full of empowered young women. Such a different experience than most females have. These girls are heads above the girls I went to school with 30 years ago, even the ones who got into "top colleges". I find it absolutely outrageous that an adult would pick apart which colleges which student it going to. You have no idea why some people may prefer one school over a school you think is "better" due to a (sometimes arbitrary) ranking system. Some schools have incredible specialized majors or special programs you might know nothing about that seem very attractive to particular students, or they want to be somewhere specific geographically.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools like NCS that deflate grades and don’t weight any grades are finding that a lot of seniors are WL or rejected. This is what you are seeing. The last 2 years kids at schools with high GPAs, tons of APs and lower test scores (that are not submitted) are getting into top 50 colleges they never would have even applied to before. As a result, kids with much lower GPAs (from private schools like NCS) and high test scores are being WL or denied and going to the next tier down schools. It is the reality. OP, with all As your daughter must have a very high GPA so she should do fine if top 50 is the goal.

The colleges know the grading scales at the different schools and thus know for example, what a 3.8 at NCS is as compared to a 4.5 at Whitman. So, no.

NP. Actually yes. While the colleges do know that, it helps their rankings if incoming admits have high GPAs. So schools that don’t grade inflate do hurt admissions for their kids.

X100 I am not saying they need to inflate the grades, but maybe not DEFLATE the grades. NCS is only hurting their students, especially with no AP or honors GPA bump.

You do realize, I hope, that most colleges/universities re-calculate GPAs without additional points for AP, etc. -- they've done this for years. NCS students are not disadvantaged for no Honors/AP GPA bump.

-- retired private school HOS

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Sorry but I went to school with many girls from NCS and trust me I can guarantee her daughter is more polished and probably a better student than your daughter. No I did not go to NCS but I was always very impressed with their abilities inside the classroom and out. People send their children to privates like NCS Sta Sidwell for the entire experience and in my opinion it does create a more polished and better educated person. You can just tell the difference.

See, now this is just plain nasty. I SAID she was a better student, didn't I? I SAID she had better grades, better test scores, and was more athletic. As far as being more "polished," well, I don't know about that one. She and her BFF are still good friends (s I said, they ended up in college together) and I don't see any difference between the two of them on the "polished" front.

My point was simply that it didn't seem that making the switch helped her in any material way in the college admissions front. That's all.

And I assume you didn't go to NCS yourself -- you're hardly "polished"or educated if your first instinct is to attack before reading.

Exactly! I’m not polished that’s the point! I was brilliantly smart but not polished like the private school girls. There is an element you absorb and get from a school like NCS, Holton, Sidwell that you don’t get from public. Writing and language skills from private friends were on a different level. That’s why we send to private. At the rate my kids are going by the time they graduate high school they will be probably be better spoken and more well read than we were by far. In regards to forming the student and person College is the bonus not the destination. The forming happens before college imo.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

Her original question wasn’t what prompted so many negative replies as her subsequent replies which if you read the thread give very very specific information about every single girl in the grade. That is what people considered creepy and stalking.

Also, the tone. She commented on how hard her daughter works very much as a way to imply that those other students don't work as hard. There was no other way to read that. Also, Notre Dame is not the "nation's most selective Catholic school." Georgetown is.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand new poster to this thread and one with zero affiliation with NCS.

I don't know if OP is a so-called "troll" or not. But her original post did not disparage URMs or legacies one iota. She merely asked what the outcomes were for applicants not falling into those categories. It's a fair question, and OP didn't deserved to be attacked for asking it. Lots of defensive parents here.

NCS girls rarely apply to Notre Dame, the nation's most famous and selective Catholic school, for obvious reasons. It doesn't surprise me that none are going there.

If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

One of my daughters had a BFF all through public middle school in NOVA. For high school the friend went to NCS. The friend was, in every way, a "better" college applicant that my daugher: better grades, more athletic, higher test scores etc. Had her heart set on the Ivies, but rejected outright by most of them and wait-listed before being rejected by a couple. Ended up at UVA with, guess who? My kid. I do wonder if this would have happened had she stayed in the local public, where she probably would have risen to the very top.

She described admissions as "going off a cliff." So so rude describing young women's achievements. OP: please oh please, report back in two years where your hardworkin daughter winds up so we can all come here and disparage it.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were an NCS parent, I must admit, I wouldn't be thrilled with a BC or a BU or a Tulane either -- no matter how selective they've become. They're great schools, sure, but plenty of public school kids get into them just as easily.

Are you sure about that? Public school kids would likely have to finish around the top 10 percent of their class for a chance at admission to these selective colleges. My guess (as someone with no affiliation or knowledge about the school) is that NCS seniors don't need to finish anywhere near the top 10 percent and might not even need to finish in the top half to have a chance at admission to these same schools. Assuming all else is similar regarding test scores/ECs/other hooks.