DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

I'm more worried about successfully suing a straight female 2nd grade teacher for mentioning her husband or reading a book to the class that mentions a male character and a female character are "married."

If you live in DC that might be an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

I'm more worried about successfully suing a straight female 2nd grade teacher for mentioning her husband or reading a book to the class that mentions a male character and a female character are "married."

If you live in DC that might be an issue.

Not sure what you mean? What in the bill stops someone from suing in Florida over that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

Look how you don't condemn the homophobia. We see you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

And it's already happening. Look at the books removed by a Florida school district: https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1516899552426700804. There's books there with zero sexual content that are only there because the contain depictions of gay families (Everywhere Babies, for example). The "Don't Say Gay" bill is turning out to be exactly what people predicted it would be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

Someone might sue the Florida schools for no good reason too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I read, city residents need to approve dissolution of the special tax district under Florida law. Seems like this would go to the Florida Supreme Court.

But reality is Florida needs Disney more than Disney needs Florida. The legislature could reverse this next year, which would still give DeSantis a win among the GOP base and preserve Disney’s special district (and Florida’s typical pro-business stance).

Disney is leaving Florida. They will be followed by the other theme parks.

So Disney is just going to abandon this and then dump 50-100 billion dollars into a new theme park that will take a decade to build?

OK

No they will just shut down for 6 months while they wait for the governor to provide government services to the park. You can not run a park without basic services. Any guest questions about the situation will be directed to DeSantis and the republicans of Florida. They made add something about gays, black and Jews are no longer allowed at the park because of DeSantis.

This is a very bizarre fantasy you've concocted in your head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

And it's already happening. Look at the books removed by a Florida school district: https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1516899552426700804. There's books there with zero sexual content that are only there because the contain depictions of gay families (Everywhere Babies, for example). The "Don't Say Gay" bill is turning out to be exactly what people predicted it would be.

But according to the wording of the law, any books with straight families can be banned too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:From what I read, city residents need to approve dissolution of the special tax district under Florida law. Seems like this would go to the Florida Supreme Court.

But reality is Florida needs Disney more than Disney needs Florida. The legislature could reverse this next year, which would still give DeSantis a win among the GOP base and preserve Disney’s special district (and Florida’s typical pro-business stance).

Disney is leaving Florida. They will be followed by the other theme parks.

Good luck. It's not like you can just pick up icons like Epcott Center and Magic Kingdom and leave. The Disney logo literally has Magic Kingdom. If Disney leaves where are they going to go that will also give them all of the tax breaks and exemptions from local laws regarding land development, water run off, etc ? Certainly not a blue state since Democrats are against tax breaks for corporations and would be against relaxing environmental laws so that a mega corporation like Disney could move in and do whatever it wants on the land.

Disney does not get tax breaks in Florida! So your post is nonsense.

Sure

Prove it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From what I read, city residents need to approve dissolution of the special tax district under Florida law. Seems like this would go to the Florida Supreme Court.

But reality is Florida needs Disney more than Disney needs Florida. The legislature could reverse this next year, which would still give DeSantis a win among the GOP base and preserve Disney’s special district (and Florida’s typical pro-business stance).

Disney is leaving Florida. They will be followed by the other theme parks.

So Disney is just going to abandon this and then dump 50-100 billion dollars into a new theme park that will take a decade to build?

OK

No they will just shut down for 6 months while they wait for the governor to provide government services to the park. You can not run a park without basic services. Any guest questions about the situation will be directed to DeSantis and the republicans of Florida. They made add something about gays, black and Jews are no longer allowed at the park because of DeSantis.

This is a very bizarre fantasy you've concocted in your head.

Oh it’s not a fantasy, it’s what’s happening. It will be a nightmare for your religious zealot of a governor. He is done as a serious presidential candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

And it's already happening. Look at the books removed by a Florida school district: https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1516899552426700804. There's books there with zero sexual content that are only there because the contain depictions of gay families (Everywhere Babies, for example). The "Don't Say Gay" bill is turning out to be exactly what people predicted it would be.

But according to the wording of the law, any books with straight families can be banned too.

Which is why this bill might not survive. It's unbelievably vague and up for way too much interpretation. The fact that as many people just on this thread don't understand - despite claiming to have read it - that this bill applies to all students and not just K-3 shows how sneaky it's trying to be. It's way too broad and unclear and could bankrupt schools to boot.

[Anonymous]

So Disney is shutting down till DeSantis is removed from office. Wonder how long that would take?

[Anonymous]

One for the Florida legislatures tried to add clarity to the bill but the one pushing it ( whose main campaign angle is stop the homos) vehemently objected saying clarifying it would gut it. The intent of the bill is 100% designed to dehumanize and the delegitimization of
LGBT families and kids.

Disney can’t side with the far right conservative trolls and bigots because they don’t represent Disneys target market or the mainstream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

And it's already happening. Look at the books removed by a Florida school district: https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1516899552426700804. There's books there with zero sexual content that are only there because the contain depictions of gay families (Everywhere Babies, for example). The "Don't Say Gay" bill is turning out to be exactly what people predicted it would be.

But according to the wording of the law, any books with straight families can be banned too.

Which is why this bill might not survive. It's unbelievably vague and up for way too much interpretation. The fact that as many people just on this thread don't understand - despite claiming to have read it - that this bill applies to all students and not just K-3 shows how sneaky it's trying to be. It's way too broad and unclear and could bankrupt schools to boot.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court in Connally v. General Construction Co. (1926), a law is unconstitutionally vague when people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagueness_doctrine

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this because some people are mad they can’t talk about sex with little kids.

It is not just sex, its also gender and gender identity and encouraging prepubescent children to undergo gender reassignment.

Exhibit A and B for what my dad always said - never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. These people exist. An actual person (I think??) typed these two statements.

I can only speak for my daughter, but since this bill passed, it's open season on gay kids in the school she goes to (in Florida, just to be clear). When they announce Pride Club at her high school (not "little kids", HIGH SCHOOL), along with the other clubs, they are openly boo'ed. They are mocked on the regular in the, what, 21 days since this passed. The homophobes like those above are teaching their children to be hateful, and they're doing just that in droves right now. And it's only just beginning. You two posters must be gleeful reading this. Must be so proud of the hate you're teaching your kids.

The liberal media decided to rename this bill the "don't say gay bill". In doing so they are promoting homophobia.

The "parental rights in education" bill addresses what should be taught in school by teachers in the third grade and below.

It covers all grades.

quoting from an NPR article:

The bill, which some opponents have called "Don't Say Gay," was signed by DeSantis on Monday. It reads, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

In other words the "don't say gay" emphasis comes from the Dems.

No one is going to successfully sue because a HS teacher brought up homosexuality in school.

"successfully" -- that doesn't rule out people suing and therefore intimidating school districts. Disgusting.

And it's already happening. Look at the books removed by a Florida school district: https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1516899552426700804. There's books there with zero sexual content that are only there because the contain depictions of gay families (Everywhere Babies, for example). The "Don't Say Gay" bill is turning out to be exactly what people predicted it would be.

But according to the wording of the law, any books with straight families can be banned too.

Which is why this bill might not survive. It's unbelievably vague and up for way too much interpretation. The fact that as many people just on this thread don't understand - despite claiming to have read it - that this bill applies to all students and not just K-3 shows how sneaky it's trying to be. It's way too broad and unclear and could bankrupt schools to boot.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court in Connally v. General Construction Co. (1926), a law is unconstitutionally vague when people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagueness_doctrine

And/or, banning all discussion of "sexual orientation and gender identity," which by definition includes straight people, straight couples, and people whose gender identities conform with that which was assigned at birth, may also be overbroad and thus not constitutional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overbreadth_doctrine