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This thread is group think in full force. We should be able to ask the question of whether some of these things are false flags or not without being called a “traitor”.
After all, the current Ukrainian regime and its Western support is no stranger to false flags — check out this study from the University of Ottawa. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2658245 |
Oh, FFS. You have clearly never watched his show. Comments like yours are why we take NOTHING the left claims at face value. When you have to lie to make a point, we know your claims are FOS. |
| He said he was on Russia’s side… why? |
Citation. TIA. |
“Cite it for me to refuse to read it so I can maintain the fiction that Tuckyo Rose is ‘just asking questions.’ If I have to think about it really, I’m going to feel lower than dirt for how I’ve framed the world, so any work you put it finding sources and crafting a cogent argument will be for nothing.” |
Group think? What can be more “group think” than almost the entire remaining Russian population thinking they are fighting Nazis is Ukraine? |
One can wholeheartedly believe that the Russian empire’s pretext for this war and the war and everything that goes along with it is wrong and a tragedy, while also being skeptical of our own empire’s actions in this geopolitical conflict and our empire’s own motivations given our history. After all, we are a country that has invaded many countries on false pretexts while using propaganda to justify it — WMD’s for example, and to make matters worse our leadership then used this as further pretext to pass laws like the Patriot Act to domestically spy on US citizens without a warrant and to use billions in our tax dollars to do it. So we as Americans have a right to be skeptical of the official narrative during geopolitical conflicts without automatically being a “traitor” or a “Russian apologist”. That’s just dangerous language to automatically call fellow Americans that and it’s that kind of mentality they leads to Patriot Act 2.0 and many other pitfalls. We are a nation where dissent and criticism is welcome. |
Fox News, their viewers and Tucker were all for the invasion of Iraq and the fake WMD. I fact they propagated all the fake information. Now these same people including you believe and parrot Russian propaganda while attacking the sitting President of the US and American. Why because you want to under this country for trump and the republicans. You have chosen Putin and trump over US. So yes you are a disloyal traitor. I would not use Russia apologist but Russian propagandist. |
| "We are a nation where criticism and dissent are welcome. Unless it's criticism of Tucker. That's when criticism becomes groupthink, because Tucker is perfect and can't be criticised." |
First of all..... that segment is from 2019. Secondly, one wonders why the clip was cut off so abruptly.......
https://theweek.com/speedreads/880942/fox-news-tucker-carlson-trolls-ukrainerussia-war |
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Have heard Hannity's name for a while. He's pretty unequivocal in what's going on and what needs to happen.
https://rumble.com/vzxo5v-hannity-how-much-more-ukraine-carnage-do-we-need-to-see.html |
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All of your "evidence" that Carlson is on "Russia's side" are ALL clips that were taken long before the invasion by Russia occurred.
He had guests on and was questioning them about what side the US should take, given the past and what is in the best interest of the US. Posters here have claimed Carlson has made outrageous statements since the invasions, as Russia has shown their brutality and disregard for human life. Joe Walsh has posted a quote that Carlson NEVER made just to rile up the left. And many believed it to be true. Please, give evidence that Carlson has said anything that posters HERE claim he has said since the invasion has occurred... specifically: "A country is being murdered, raped, and tortured, and Tucker stated he us "confused" why people would take their side." (6:42) "He is cheering the dead Ukrainians!" (7:39) "He said he was on Russia’s side" (7:56) |