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Why does an 8th grader take the PSAT and a PSAT prep course? The PSAT is in 11th grade? |
The PSAT was required for the magnet school DC is applying to. They to the PSAT 8/9 |
This is odd that your child prepped for both PSAT and SSAT and still did so poorly. Did your DC skip questions they were unsure of? Because on HSPT you are not penalized for wrong answers like on SSAT. You are better off guessing than leaving questions blank. |
Got it. I would imagine a lower score on the HSPT won’t hurt much if your DC has such great evaluations. When your current head of school speaks to the high school admissions people they explain that the scores don’t reflect the high achieving student they see at school. I assume you are in private school if there are no grades in middle school? Good luck. |
| My student also did the PSAT 8/9 and HSPT. They are pretty different tests. The HSPT seemed to focus more on stickler grammar / editing, rote math, etc. I can see how those coming from a Catholic k-8 are able to do better on such a test. The schools focus much more on these things and have prep for the test built into school. Those from outside that school system either prep on their own (or with help) or not. And if not, prepping for the PSAT isn’t that transferable, in our experience. The PSAT 8/9 is a good reference for performance on the PSAT/SAT and college readiness. The HSPT seemed more geared toward a specific high school system. One’s not better than the other, necessarily. But I see why my student’s score varied widely from one test to the other. |
My DC prepped for both SSAT and HSPT; took the tests a week apart and did much better on the SSAT than HSPT particularly in math (like 94 vs 67) .. a much higher overall score on the SSAT, can't explain it. DC is coming from a Catholic school. |
My kids so far 1: SSAT + HSPT. Did better on HSPT 88 vs 97 iirc percentiles 2: PSAT8/9 + HSPT. Did slightly better on HSPT but both high 90s 3: PSAT8/9 + HSPT. Did a little better on the PSAT, 94 vs 88 iirc I think the SSAT is the harder of the 3. |
Just received my kid's scores today. Straight A student from a non-Catholic school but a disappointing 64th percentile. We are applying to O'Connell but haven't ruled out Arlington Public Schools either. Even if my child is accepted to O'Connell, would the mediocre HSPT score rule out honors/intensified classes at DJO freshman year? If so, I am wondering if it would just be more advantageous to go to public school instead. |
Is 64% that low? What is considered acceptable for the top schools? 80s%? |
Very likely in our experience, but maybe we could've/should've pushed harder and gotten a different result. We requested honors world history only coming from a parochial k-8. DS qualified for honors classes based on middle school grades but didn't have the necessary qualifying HSPT scores (which seem really high in my non-expert opinion). We requested only world history honors because history/ss has always been DS' favorite subject, and we thought just the one class in a subject area where he is motivated would be a good intro into higher level classes. They didn't grant the request so he isn't taking any honors classes freshman year. That seems to preclude AP until junior year, assuming they start taking honors classes sophomore year, according to the course book based on grade/course prerequisites, but maybe "department approval" for AP classes is given somewhat regularly? DJO seems to focus on placing kids where they can be successful with a B or higher--that doesn't mean they'll get a B (no hesitation to give Cs, Ds, Fs on assignments/tests from what I've seen in Canvas) but they don't want kids taking a class unless there's confidence the kid could earn at least a B in that class. There's also math and English placement tests in the spring/summer. We assumed DS would take the English placement test as part of requesting honors world history, to help show that the request should be granted, but that wasn't an option because he didn't request honors English. |
Thank you for sharing your experience! It is disappointing, but this is very helpful as we determine next steps. |
| Not O’Connell but DC was able to get into Honors classes in a independent-Catholic and they are the only low grades. This might not be a bad policy. |
Sure. For what it's worth, he is loving the school after going in knowing absolutely nobody. You know your kid best. I thought mine could probably handle a single honors class, and his reading/language scores on the HSPT were abnormally low for him, but he isn't super academically motivated so I didn't want him to end up doing poorly in a honors class that they told us he shouldn't have taken anyway. If your kid is very intelligent and academically motivated, then maybe it's not worth an entire year of lost advanced classes to go to DJO. DJO also placed my kid in an advanced foreign language class based on his testing in middle school, and I thought they were completely nuts and contemplated insisting they put him in the first year class. I left it alone, and he's doing great, getting As in the advanced class. So, so far, they seem to know what they're doing. |
What’s new in 2025? Any idea when the test results are available? |
Is O’Connell the Radford of local Catholic Schools? |