$3.3 million in CCDC / Barnaby Woods

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

[Anonymous]

Honest question- if they didn’t raze the house, isn’t it still a flip? A very expensive, extensive one for sure, but the old house isn’t completely gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest question- if they didn’t raze the house, isn’t it still a flip? A very expensive, extensive one for sure, but the old house isn’t completely gone.

A flip is doing cosmetic and cheap changes and charging significantly on speculation. This is a more extensive construction job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honest question- if they didn’t raze the house, isn’t it still a flip? A very expensive, extensive one for sure, but the old house isn’t completely gone.

I think it is, flips do tend to remove walls and the like. So they added big windows and adjusted the roof line, still largely cosmetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

lol. I love this forum sometimes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

I love you, PP-lol!

[Anonymous]

Maybe we should all put a pool of money together and whoever guesses the closest to what it sells for wins.

I’ll be bold and say they only get 2.65, that’s my bet. Anyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honest question- if they didn’t raze the house, isn’t it still a flip? A very expensive, extensive one for sure, but the old house isn’t completely gone.

I think it is, flips do tend to remove walls and the like. So they added big windows and adjusted the roof line, still largely cosmetic.

It’s not cosmetic at all. The house is twice the size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

lol. I love this forum sometimes

It’s dumb though. The whole point of the word “flip” is to describe buying a house, putting some lipstick on it and relisting it. If you use the term for this house, any house bought to be renovated and resold would be a “flip.” Or even torn down and a spec house built.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

lol. I love this forum sometimes

It’s dumb though. The whole point of the word “flip” is to describe buying a house, putting some lipstick on it and relisting it. If you use the term for this house, any house bought to be renovated and resold would be a “flip.” Or even torn down and a spec house built.

No, if the old house is torn down and a new home is built, it’s a new house. This is happening in our neighborhood- not even the basement remains. Flip may seem inherently cheap and negative to you but it’s not always the case. It’s possible the term “flip” has a bad association because of all of the cheap flips.
We’re getting off the subject here. The house in question is a big, massively expensive flip. If you would prefer to call it an extensive renovation, by all means, have at it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, this isn’t a “flip.” This is a major renovation/basically rebuilt. The old house is gone. I don’t like the house but that’s just not what “flip” means.

Same basic shape and size as the old house, though. Can any of the neighbors comment on how much is actually new?

As the PP said above, it isn’t a flip. It was totally rebuilt and doubled in size. This house was gutted down to the brick walls and joists, with nothing else else remaining. The entire roof framing system was removed, framing was added to walls and the roofline was reframed. A new addition doubling the size of the house was added to the back. Generally a flip is when really only cosmetic stuff like drywall, tile, new roof materials, fixtures, hardware etc.

Thanks for all the explanation. Your listing is still a flip.

lol. I love this forum sometimes

It’s dumb though. The whole point of the word “flip” is to describe buying a house, putting some lipstick on it and relisting it. If you use the term for this house, any house bought to be renovated and resold would be a “flip.” Or even torn down and a spec house built.

No, if the old house is torn down and a new home is built, it’s a new house. This is happening in our neighborhood- not even the basement remains. Flip may seem inherently cheap and negative to you but it’s not always the case. It’s possible the term “flip” has a bad association because of all of the cheap flips.
We’re getting off the subject here. The house in question is a big, massively expensive flip. If you would prefer to call it an extensive renovation, by all means, have at it.

This house was torn down literally to the exterior masonry walls, and doubled in size. Essentially a new house with an old foundation and old exterior masonry walls. Then, the house was doubled in the back with all new construction by the looks of things. I personally think that crosses over into the threshold where it’s not a flip but I guess we’re all arguing semantics here.

[Anonymous]

No shilling changes the fact that this is a flip, and a cheap one that should not have been listed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No shilling changes the fact that this is a flip, and a cheap one that should not have been listed.

No dog in this fight. That was not a “flip.” Way too many structural changes that took months, not weeks. And it was not cheap. Was it worth 3.3M? No. But those were not cheap fixtures, cabinets, finishes, etc.