Univ of Chicago

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

+1. The only thing that the HYPSM prestige defense squad talks about is the endowment. Clearly it’s a bad indicator of school quality: is WashU suddenly better than Chicago or Columbia? It’s funny because Columbia is accomplishing way more as an institution than Princeton, which has triple the money that Columbia has.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

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At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

For those of you so obsessed with critiquing other school's endowments:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z3Eq8x8CsqQJ:https://dailynorthwestern.com/2021/10/21/opinion/amaral-what-i-would-like-northwesterns-next-president-to-prioritize/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here is a piece written by a Northwestern professor (which also has a higher endowment than Columbia) -

Columbia, in particular, seems to have made sizable investments into a number of new strategic areas (neuroscience, free speech, data science and climate change). Could NU’s ranking have actually risen if, for example, the $800 million surplus of a few years ago had been invested in research infrastructure instead of added to the endowment?

In any case, whether more ambitious investments in research infrastructure increase the rankings, they do have the potential to improve the work of faculty and graduate students, and the academic experiences of undergraduate students. Indeed, they could even contribute to help local communities respond to societal challenges such as addiction, gun violence or climate change. As was recently reported in The New Yorker, Columbia faculty are having a direct impact on the manner in which New York City will respond to the challenges posed by climate change.

It's really a matter of how you manage/spent the endowment and long term vision vs. short term priorities. There is a reason Columbia/Chicago's departments and R&D output/influence rank far higher than schools with similar endowments. I just don't see Notre Dame or Northwestern shoot up in their academic rankings (departmental or professional school) in the years their endowments have surpassed Columbia, and it's very unlikely for UVA and other schools to overtake their level of academic/institutional prestige. Unless they start spending $5 billion a year like Columbia does, they might have a slim chance at cracking the T10....

Isn't Northwestern's business school better than Columbia's?

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

+1. The only thing that the HYPSM prestige defense squad talks about is the endowment. Clearly it’s a bad indicator of school quality: is WashU suddenly better than Chicago or Columbia? It’s funny because Columbia is accomplishing way more as an institution than Princeton, which has triple the money that Columbia has.

Your forgot one thing: their obsession with EA/ED and yield rates.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

Columbia owns 14.88M total square feet across 232 properties in Manhattan, NY. Its Manhattansville campus expansion, set to be completed in 2030, will cost staggering $7B. That’s Columbia’s cost of 15 new buildings and an acre of public green space. Imagine the market value of these 15 new buildings alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

For those of you so obsessed with critiquing other school's endowments:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z3Eq8x8CsqQJ:https://dailynorthwestern.com/2021/10/21/opinion/amaral-what-i-would-like-northwesterns-next-president-to-prioritize/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here is a piece written by a Northwestern professor (which also has a higher endowment than Columbia) -

Columbia, in particular, seems to have made sizable investments into a number of new strategic areas (neuroscience, free speech, data science and climate change). Could NU’s ranking have actually risen if, for example, the $800 million surplus of a few years ago had been invested in research infrastructure instead of added to the endowment?

In any case, whether more ambitious investments in research infrastructure increase the rankings, they do have the potential to improve the work of faculty and graduate students, and the academic experiences of undergraduate students. Indeed, they could even contribute to help local communities respond to societal challenges such as addiction, gun violence or climate change. As was recently reported in The New Yorker, Columbia faculty are having a direct impact on the manner in which New York City will respond to the challenges posed by climate change.

It's really a matter of how you manage/spent the endowment and long term vision vs. short term priorities. There is a reason Columbia/Chicago's departments and R&D output/influence rank far higher than schools with similar endowments. I just don't see Notre Dame or Northwestern shoot up in their academic rankings (departmental or professional school) in the years their endowments have surpassed Columbia, and it's very unlikely for UVA and other schools to overtake their level of academic/institutional prestige. Unless they start spending $5 billion a year like Columbia does, they might have a slim chance at cracking the T10....

Isn't Northwestern's business school better than Columbia's?

Columbia business schools wins cross-admits over Booth or Kellogg, despite the latter two being higher ranked.

https://www.clearadmit.com/decisionwire/

CBS (62%) vs Booth (38%)

CBS (61%) vs Kellogg (39%)

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

For those of you so obsessed with critiquing other school's endowments:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z3Eq8x8CsqQJ:https://dailynorthwestern.com/2021/10/21/opinion/amaral-what-i-would-like-northwesterns-next-president-to-prioritize/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here is a piece written by a Northwestern professor (which also has a higher endowment than Columbia) -

Columbia, in particular, seems to have made sizable investments into a number of new strategic areas (neuroscience, free speech, data science and climate change). Could NU’s ranking have actually risen if, for example, the $800 million surplus of a few years ago had been invested in research infrastructure instead of added to the endowment?

In any case, whether more ambitious investments in research infrastructure increase the rankings, they do have the potential to improve the work of faculty and graduate students, and the academic experiences of undergraduate students. Indeed, they could even contribute to help local communities respond to societal challenges such as addiction, gun violence or climate change. As was recently reported in The New Yorker, Columbia faculty are having a direct impact on the manner in which New York City will respond to the challenges posed by climate change.

It's really a matter of how you manage/spent the endowment and long term vision vs. short term priorities. There is a reason Columbia/Chicago's departments and R&D output/influence rank far higher than schools with similar endowments. I just don't see Notre Dame or Northwestern shoot up in their academic rankings (departmental or professional school) in the years their endowments have surpassed Columbia, and it's very unlikely for UVA and other schools to overtake their level of academic/institutional prestige. Unless they start spending $5 billion a year like Columbia does, they might have a slim chance at cracking the T10....

Isn't Northwestern's business school better than Columbia's?

Columbia business schools wins cross-admits over Booth or Kellogg, despite the latter two being higher ranked.

https://www.clearadmit.com/decisionwire/

CBS (62%) vs Booth (38%)

CBS (61%) vs Kellogg (39%)

I don't think this is reliable data lol. Generally among the M7 schools, it's:

Harvard Stanford
Wharton
MIT Kellogg Booth CBS

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

For those of you so obsessed with critiquing other school's endowments:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z3Eq8x8CsqQJ:https://dailynorthwestern.com/2021/10/21/opinion/amaral-what-i-would-like-northwesterns-next-president-to-prioritize/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Here is a piece written by a Northwestern professor (which also has a higher endowment than Columbia) -

Columbia, in particular, seems to have made sizable investments into a number of new strategic areas (neuroscience, free speech, data science and climate change). Could NU’s ranking have actually risen if, for example, the $800 million surplus of a few years ago had been invested in research infrastructure instead of added to the endowment?

In any case, whether more ambitious investments in research infrastructure increase the rankings, they do have the potential to improve the work of faculty and graduate students, and the academic experiences of undergraduate students. Indeed, they could even contribute to help local communities respond to societal challenges such as addiction, gun violence or climate change. As was recently reported in The New Yorker, Columbia faculty are having a direct impact on the manner in which New York City will respond to the challenges posed by climate change.

It's really a matter of how you manage/spent the endowment and long term vision vs. short term priorities. There is a reason Columbia/Chicago's departments and R&D output/influence rank far higher than schools with similar endowments. I just don't see Notre Dame or Northwestern shoot up in their academic rankings (departmental or professional school) in the years their endowments have surpassed Columbia, and it's very unlikely for UVA and other schools to overtake their level of academic/institutional prestige. Unless they start spending $5 billion a year like Columbia does, they might have a slim chance at cracking the T10....

Isn't Northwestern's business school better than Columbia's?

Columbia business schools wins cross-admits over Booth or Kellogg, despite the latter two being higher ranked.

https://www.clearadmit.com/decisionwire/

CBS (62%) vs Booth (38%)

CBS (61%) vs Kellogg (39%)

I don't think this is reliable data lol. Generally among the M7 schools, it's:

Harvard Stanford
Wharton
MIT Kellogg Booth CBS

Columbia also has a slightly lower ranked econ department vs Chicago & Northwestern

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago boosters are so insecure that one 8-page long thread simply calling out its boosterism disappeared all of a sudden from DCUM... I wonder why?

UChicago is definitely tops at having the most insecure alums on DCUM, followed closely by Northwestern, JHU, and Duke, based on recent posts I've seen on this forum.

I've not met any insecure Ivy or stanford/mit alums or parents on this forum, which by itself speaks volumes.

Columbia alums are the most insecure

Columbia and UChicago are tied.

Agree Columbia and Chicago alums are the most insecure..especially w their paltry endowments

Here comes the hypsm prestige defense squad with their half-baked and incoherent logic...

Columbia and Chicago's endowments are now smaller than WashU and UVA's fwiw

Columbia owns 14.88M total square feet across 232 properties in Manhattan, NY. Its Manhattansville campus expansion, set to be completed in 2030, will cost staggering $7B. That’s Columbia’s cost of 15 new buildings and an acre of public green space. Imagine the market value of these 15 new buildings alone.

There are other universities taking on similarly large initiatives

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

You sound as if WashU has 10-20 billion more $$ like Yale or Princeton do. The difference in endowment isn't even that significant. Quit being delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

You sound as if WashU has 10-20 billion more $$ like Yale or Princeton do. The difference in endowment isn't even that significant. Quit being delusional.

Not delusional..this is the reality

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

You sound as if WashU has 10-20 billion more $$ like Yale or Princeton do. The difference in endowment isn't even that significant. Quit being delusional.

Not delusional..this is the reality

The reality is that WashU, like PP said, is a solid safety school and filled with hypsm/ivy league rejects. It has been so, and will continue to be so in the future. You are delusional if you think it's competitors are Columbia/Chicago. It competes with T15-20 schools like Brown, Cornell, Rice or Notre Dame.

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

You sound as if WashU has 10-20 billion more $$ like Yale or Princeton do. The difference in endowment isn't even that significant. Quit being delusional.

Not delusional..this is the reality

The reality is that WashU, like PP said, is a solid safety school and filled with hypsm/ivy league rejects. It has been so, and will continue to be so in the future. You are delusional if you think it's competitors are Columbia/Chicago. It competes with T15-20 schools like Brown, Cornell, Rice or Notre Dame.

I bet PP is the one who posted the "BREAKING: WashU is now need blind" thread

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago had a pretty bad relative return year, and their enowment is behind majority of "top colleges"

Columbia at $14B is smaller than WashU's lol

Won't change the fact that WashU is still considered by many as a safety school and full with hypsm/ivy league or even uchicago rejects.

+1

At least not a poor school like Chicago is

Would rather be a "poor school" than a desperately mediocre school.

+1. No one ever picks WashU over either Columbia/Chicago. WashU is at least 2 tiers below in prestige, academic rigor, and student outcomes. And UVA? lol.

WashU can use its $$ to start poaching all the star professors from Columbia and Chicago

You sound as if WashU has 10-20 billion more $$ like Yale or Princeton do. The difference in endowment isn't even that significant. Quit being delusional.

Not delusional..this is the reality

The reality is that WashU, like PP said, is a solid safety school and filled with hypsm/ivy league rejects. It has been so, and will continue to be so in the future. You are delusional if you think it's competitors are Columbia/Chicago. It competes with T15-20 schools like Brown, Cornell, Rice or Notre Dame.

+1. WashU boosters are just pathetic.