Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we also acknowledge how Jen’s appearance seemed to change post Brandon’s new girlfriend? Hair super blonde, lost a bunch of weight etc. I feel zero chemistry between she and Tyler, and I’m always suspicious of someone who constantly tells the world how perfect their relationship is. She still pining for Brandon, I don’t care what she posts. I also wish we could hear Brandon’s version, because I’m 99% sure it would paint her in a negative light.

Take everything she says about Tyler and substitute Brandon’s name and that’s what we’ve heard the last 20 years. Same circus, different clown.

Zero chemistry. She also comments on his posts to remind people that they’re dating.

[Anonymous]

Yah, the whole Tyler Jen narrative feels so very contrived.

Also, please do not post on social media how you cannot parent right now because you’re “dating” and casually abdicate all parenting responsibility to your children, and then ask us all to attend your “ME course” on parenting. Is she for real.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like identifying yourself as “codependent” is really just an excuse to be a selfish a-hole?

The term is based in reality and has tons of merit. I grew up in a home with great parents…and my dad was an alcoholic who depended on my mother to keep our life together despite his addiction. She was 100% co-dependent and it really set a bad example for my siblings and I. So, I’m 100% supportive of the book/concept and have lived it all myself. But JH makes it all “extra” and is throwing her daughter under the bus along the way.

I 100% agree with this concept as well since I lived it with my parents. My mom enabled both my dad and brother for different reasosn. Unhealthy but how she survived.

But what I'm hearing is that Jen has lived a fake life for a long time, covering up and enabling. I think she was trying to keep an image together too. That's sad. But that doesn't mean she needs to thow her kids under the bus.

I think she can share this concept and self growth because she has a platform to share this info, but not bring in her kids. Personally I'm fine with her sharing about Brandon, he's an adult and can own the consequences.

My opinion: In general, we give way too much credit to these influencers, athletes, celebrities, politicians, the very wealthy. They are fallible like anyone else. Plus they usually aren’t all that smart— they have charisma, the gift of gab, a special skill that has nothing with being a good person or role model (don’t get me wrong- some are very good people and are authentic). Jen was likely very popular, her father put her (and all her siblings) on an unrealistic pedestal and she is very pretty with a great inviting smile. She learned from an early age she could charm the pants off of anyone and used her gift of storytelling to make a great life for herself and her family. But, she isn’t immune to any of life’s pitfalls that we all are trying to avoid. When the trauma hit her, her entire life was and was already out there for all of us to scrutinize. And, we love to see a train wreck happen to celebs. But we gave her this power. She’s no different and no more special than any of us. But, we helped inflate her already overinflated ego that she’s always likely had. She’s smart, but she’s no genius. Why don’t we hold the truly genius of our population in such regard? There are nerds and thought leaders who are brilliant- and we don’t pay them any mind. Why? Because they’re normally introverted, socially awkward, perhaps don’t care for the latest fashion or ascribe to pop culture. Those are the people we should elevate- not a mega athlete, or super model, or a “Christian-y” woman from the Midwest/Texas who spins a good yarn.



And I'm pretty sure that I would be shocked or disappointed by all the authors , influencers, etc that I follow online.

When my nieces and nephews say they want to be influencers, this is what I think of. It is a sad life. Not everyone can do it, and those who do pay a human price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yah, the whole Tyler Jen narrative feels so very contrived.

Also, please do not post on social media how you cannot parent right now because you’re “dating” and casually abdicate all parenting responsibility to your children, and then ask us all to attend your “ME course” on parenting. Is she for real.

Yes! Did you listen to Glennon’s podcast episode with she and Tyler? He’s an eternal bachelor and brought up that she’s had some freak out moments with him already. I picture her being overbearing, insecure, jealous and controlling. He said she drove the entire relationship by basically giving him an ultimatum like, you have to be all in or nothing, and it took him 24 hours to decide if he wanted to commit to her! “Can I think about it and call you back?”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yah, the whole Tyler Jen narrative feels so very contrived.

Also, please do not post on social media how you cannot parent right now because you’re “dating” and casually abdicate all parenting responsibility to your children, and then ask us all to attend your “ME course” on parenting. Is she for real.

Yes! Did you listen to Glennon’s podcast episode with she and Tyler? He’s an eternal bachelor and brought up that she’s had some freak out moments with him already. I picture her being overbearing, insecure, jealous and controlling. He said she drove the entire relationship by basically giving him an ultimatum like, you have to be all in or nothing, and it took him 24 hours to decide if he wanted to commit to her! “Can I think about it and call you back?”

It was so strange and cringy! I'm the most practical, least precious person when it comes to these things but this was horrifying on so many levels. He seems genuinely nice but it's hard to buy the "Jennifer King Hatmaker is the greatest woman alive" shtick when he had to take at least a day to commit to their relationship.

Also, it was really thrown by how often they assured everyone that Tyler isn't gay. Like, doth protest too much?!

[Anonymous]

You’re not going to believe it but Big Sis had another super magical living her best life ever indulgent girlfriend weekend ever.

I used to really love Jen but it’s weird that everything is a THING for her now.

She can’t just live her life and have normal human things happen to her. They all have to be wonderfully meaningful and magical and perfect and enchanting.

And all constantly and exhaustively documented, of course.

This is a women who’s pushing 50 but who
reminds me of my 19 year old who pushes a little too hard on the Insta. But she’s 19. Big Sis is, what, 50?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re not going to believe it but Big Sis had another super magical living her best life ever indulgent girlfriend weekend ever.

I used to really love Jen but it’s weird that everything is a THING for her now.

She can’t just live her life and have normal human things happen to her. They all have to be wonderfully meaningful and magical and perfect and enchanting.

And all constantly and exhaustively documented, of course.

This is a women who’s pushing 50 but who
reminds me of my 19 year old who pushes a little too hard on the Insta. But she’s 19. Big Sis is, what, 50?

And sometimes I want to comment that on her post, but I am not ready for the lynch mob that comes after anyone who dares say anything about Jen that isn’t butterflies and rainbows. And she thinks it’s cute that they’re so “overprotective.” It’s all just gross.

[Anonymous]

^you would be ridiculed and then your post deleted.

[Anonymous]

Me: *waiting for Jen to jump into the Roe vs Wade discussion dominating all of social media today*

Jen: *posts some BS about her book club because she’s too scared to share her opinion*

Note: I honestly have no idea what her opinion is on this. The fact that she won’t share because she won’t be universally adored is telling…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Me: *waiting for Jen to jump into the Roe vs Wade discussion dominating all of social media today*

Jen: *posts some BS about her book club because she’s too scared to share her opinion*

Note: I honestly have no idea what her opinion is on this. The fact that she won’t share because she won’t be universally adored is telling…..

At least Glennon isn’t afraid. Glennon continues to impress and inspire while Jen gets worse and worse.

[Anonymous]

Jen is for whatever The Thing Is At The Moment. Whatever gets her in good for media contracts and media deals. Therefore, I expect a tortured, endless word salad defending Roe but someone taking all sides before the night is out.

[Anonymous]

I think Tyler’s gay so he probably loves not having to shag white girl drunk Jen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Tyler’s gay so he probably loves not having to shag white girl drunk Jen.

AGREED. Definitely a fake relationship for followers, likes, and book sales.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jen is for whatever The Thing Is At The Moment. Whatever gets her in good for media contracts and media deals. Therefore, I expect a tortured, endless word salad defending Roe but someone taking all sides before the night is out.

Well her statement is out and she is firmly pro choice, as is the thing at the moment. She is insufferable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Tyler’s gay so he probably loves not having to shag white girl drunk Jen.

Ha! I seriously think you’re on to something. It’s the most weird dynamic I think I’ve ever seen.