Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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Anonymous wrote:So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

Dow is at another all time high. I assume liberals will not take the gains - dirty money

Nope, taking the gains and thanking Obama. This is just a continued trend from the 13,000 point gain in the Dow that happened under Obama as far as I'm concerned.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/953338943323348992

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Anonymous wrote:So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

Dow is at another all time high. I assume liberals will not take the gains - dirty money

Nope, taking the gains and thanking Obama. This is just a continued trend from the 13,000 point gain in the Dow that happened under Obama as far as I'm concerned.

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I have family in Europe that would love to immigrate here LEGALLY. They cannot get visas, and so they don't come.

We need a merit based system that is *enforced*. Our system with poor enforcement, is now rewarding law breakers.

I believe we should be generous to the so-called Dreamers, provided that the system will become enforcement and merit based.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how there are so many "refugees" nowadays? It seems that everyone is a refugee but from what exactly? We give billions in aid to many of these countries yet they cant go to Europe or other land accessible countries? Why do we have to accept them hear why cant other countries step up too?

Well, as far as the US is concerned, the refugee crisis from Central America started during the Carter/Reagan administration. The US stuck their noses into their civil war, and helped create the refugee crisis.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/central-americans-and-asylum-policy-reagan-era

In 1990, after its earlier frustrations to address the Central American asylum seekers, Congress finally passed legislation allowing the president (Bush Sr) to grant Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to certain groups in need of a temporary safe haven. The first TPS legislation contained one provision (never codified as part of the Immigration and Nationality Act) explicitly designating Salvadorans for TPS.

Through the early 1990s, Salvadoran and Guatemalans who had arrived in the 1980s were able to stay in the country under a series of discretionary measures and under the terms of the 1991 settlement in the American Baptist Churches litigation. It was not until the late 1990s that their status was finally settled in a legislative agreement with the supporters of the anti-Sandinista Nicaraguans. The passage of the 1997 Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act finally allowed Salvadorans and Guatemalans protected under the American Baptist Churches settlement to apply for permanent residence.

What spurred the activism of the Sanctuary Movement and Central American refugees and their lawyers was the manner in which the Reagan administration linked the fate of individual asylum seekers to its foreign policy interests. Today, the use of immigration enforcement as a "magic bullet" for national security concerns requires close examination by the U.S. public.

From the same article: "The year 1980 marked the opening of a decade of public controversy over U.S. refugee policy unprecedented since World War II. Large-scale migration to the United States from Central America began, as hundreds of thousands of Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Nicaraguans fled north from civil war, repression, and economic devastation. That same year, in the last months of the Carter administration, the U.S. Congress passed the Refugee Act, a humanitarian law intended to expand eligibility for political asylum in the United States."

The flow to the USA started with 100's of thousands in the Carter administration. The USA has always had an illegal immigration issue with Mexico. What should the US have done? Full scale invasion and martial law ?

I'm just tired of the illegal immigration issue which seems to be the sole priority of my Democratic Party. Frankly my last straw was the surge of unaccompanied minors after Obama 's executive order on DACA. If all are in school, just on a building capacity basis, here's the volume:
Montgomery County MD-1 high school and 2 middle schools . Same for FX and PG for a grand total of 3 high schools and 6 middle schools .

Or think of it as 5 high schools. Does MD give extra money? VA did not. FEDS don't pay except a paltry amount. Vermont got 5 over almost 4 years. Hawaii 19 and Idaho 80. Each of those 3 states has very verbal and loud politicians in the senate. Durbin 's state of Illinois got 1845. The 3 DMV area counties have 13,000 plus which means we have a larger illegal or legal or TSP population for their release through the feds.

Fairfax County has the 6th highest per county in the nation. Note it is in the midlantic area NOT like southern CA or TX with historical border crossings with Mexico.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how there are so many "refugees" nowadays? It seems that everyone is a refugee but from what exactly? We give billions in aid to many of these countries yet they cant go to Europe or other land accessible countries? Why do we have to accept them hear why cant other countries step up too?

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Of the 84,995 refugees admitted to the United States in fiscal year 2016, the largest numbers came from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Syria, Burma (Myanmar) and Iraq. Due to wars and genocide.

Syria had 1.6 million refugees, the Congo has 1.6 million displaced and about 800,000 Myanmar have escaped the genocide in their country so far. So the US took very few.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it's OK to call those countries "shitholes" because their leadership is corrupt?

Well then it seems we have a problem, because OUR leadership, with Donald Trump is corrupt.

Dow is at another all time high. I assume liberals will not take the gains - dirty money

Neither will poor whites in rural America. You know why? Because they own no stocks.

Anyone with pensions has ownership of stocks so basically any union worker which is most of America

Hahaha except that most companies have broken up unions and frozen pensions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how there are so many "refugees" nowadays? It seems that everyone is a refugee but from what exactly? We give billions in aid to many of these countries yet they cant go to Europe or other land accessible countries? Why do we have to accept them hear why cant other countries step up too?

Well, as far as the US is concerned, the refugee crisis from Central America started during the Carter/Reagan administration. The US stuck their noses into their civil war, and helped create the refugee crisis.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/central-americans-and-asylum-policy-reagan-era

In 1990, after its earlier frustrations to address the Central American asylum seekers, Congress finally passed legislation allowing the president (Bush Sr) to grant Temporary Protected Status (TPS) to certain groups in need of a temporary safe haven. The first TPS legislation contained one provision (never codified as part of the Immigration and Nationality Act) explicitly designating Salvadorans for TPS.

Through the early 1990s, Salvadoran and Guatemalans who had arrived in the 1980s were able to stay in the country under a series of discretionary measures and under the terms of the 1991 settlement in the American Baptist Churches litigation. It was not until the late 1990s that their status was finally settled in a legislative agreement with the supporters of the anti-Sandinista Nicaraguans. The passage of the 1997 Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act finally allowed Salvadorans and Guatemalans protected under the American Baptist Churches settlement to apply for permanent residence.

What spurred the activism of the Sanctuary Movement and Central American refugees and their lawyers was the manner in which the Reagan administration linked the fate of individual asylum seekers to its foreign policy interests. Today, the use of immigration enforcement as a "magic bullet" for national security concerns requires close examination by the U.S. public.

From the same article: "The year 1980 marked the opening of a decade of public controversy over U.S. refugee policy unprecedented since World War II. Large-scale migration to the United States from Central America began, as hundreds of thousands of Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Nicaraguans fled north from civil war, repression, and economic devastation. That same year, in the last months of the Carter administration, the U.S. Congress passed the Refugee Act, a humanitarian law intended to expand eligibility for political asylum in the United States."

The flow to the USA started with 100's of thousands in the Carter administration. The USA has always had an illegal immigration issue with Mexico. What should the US have done? Full scale invasion and martial law ?

I'm just tired of the illegal immigration issue which seems to be the sole priority of my Democratic Party. Frankly my last straw was the surge of unaccompanied minors after Obama 's executive order on DACA. If all are in school, just on a building capacity basis, here's the volume:
Montgomery County MD-1 high school and 2 middle schools . Same for FX and PG for a grand total of 3 high schools and 6 middle schools .

Or think of it as 5 high schools. Does MD give extra money? VA did not. FEDS don't pay except a paltry amount. Vermont got 5 over almost 4 years. Hawaii 19 and Idaho 80. Each of those 3 states has very verbal and loud politicians in the senate. Durbin 's state of Illinois got 1845. The 3 DMV area counties have 13,000 plus which means we have a larger illegal or legal or TSP population for their release through the feds.

Fairfax County has the 6th highest per county in the nation. Note it is in the midlantic area NOT like southern CA or TX with historical border crossings with Mexico.

Did you read the part where it was Bush Sr who granted TPS to Salvadorians? The US under Reagan got involved in the civil wars in Central America. We helped create the problem, as usual. Read the bolded again.

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Anonymous wrote: I'm just tired of the illegal immigration issue which seems to be the sole priority of my Democratic Party. Frankly my last straw was the surge of unaccompanied minors after Obama 's executive order on DACA.

At this point, the issue of racial tension aka diversity is the Democrats only meal ticket. Funny that the Republicans capitalized on it.

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Anyone with pensions has ownership of stocks so basically any union worker which is most of America

Almost all of the former pensions were closed out or converted for some to 401k's. Almost no one has pensions or stock ownership anymore.

If you have a 401k (and not everyone does), you hold stocks directly or indirectly...

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Anonymous wrote: I'm just tired of the illegal immigration issue which seems to be the sole priority of my Democratic Party. Frankly my last straw was the surge of unaccompanied minors after Obama 's executive order on DACA.

You must not be paying attention. The Democratic party is fighting to save universal health care as a right, not a privilege, protect the environment from being sold to corporate interest, protecting a women's right to equal pay for equal work, and to safeguard the sanctity of our elections from foreign interlopers all of which have been gutted under the Trump administration (which refuses to adhere to ethics norms). Yes, saving young people from being deported from the only home they've ever known is a priority, but far from the only one.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how there are so many "refugees" nowadays? It seems that everyone is a refugee but from what exactly? We give billions in aid to many of these countries yet they cant go to Europe or other land accessible countries? Why do we have to accept them hear why cant other countries step up too?

Others do, including poor Bangladesh who took many refugees from Myanmar. It's kind of pathetic that a tiny poor Muslim country is willing to take refugees but not the big rich Christian country.

There are always refugees, whether political or from war torn countries.

After WWII and during the Cold War - refugees from Europe and USSR
During the Vietnam war - from Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia
During the Balkan war - most of them went to other European countries
During the many conflicts in the Middle East and Africa
Natural disasters in Haiti
Civil war in El Salvadaor

Many of the sh1thole countries Trump was referring to are land accessible to the US.

African/ME refugees do go to Europe. I'll try not to be snarky, but have you not seen the news reports in the past few years regarding the surge in refugees across Europe?

DP but admittedly I do need to look into this further before being judgey. I had no idea there were so many refugee crises in modern history. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how there are so many "refugees" nowadays? It seems that everyone is a refugee but from what exactly? We give billions in aid to many of these countries yet they cant go to Europe or other land accessible countries? Why do we have to accept them hear why cant other countries step up too?

Others do, including poor Bangladesh who took many refugees from Myanmar. It's kind of pathetic that a tiny poor Muslim country is willing to take refugees but not the big rich Christian country.

There are always refugees, whether political or from war torn countries.

After WWII and during the Cold War - refugees from Europe and USSR
During the Vietnam war - from Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia
During the Balkan war - most of them went to other European countries
During the many conflicts in the Middle East and Africa
Natural disasters in Haiti
Civil war in El Salvadaor

Many of the sh1thole countries Trump was referring to are land accessible to the US.

African/ME refugees do go to Europe. I'll try not to be snarky, but have you not seen the news reports in the past few years regarding the surge in refugees across Europe?

DP but admittedly I do need to look into this further before being judgey. I had no idea there were so many refugee crises in modern history. Thank you.

PP here... Are you not educated in the US or watch the news? I am actually not that into politics, but these events are world news and for the most part taught in US history classes. Maybe they don't teach stuff like this anymore in US history classes?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Norwegians immigrate here? They have it better than we do in pretty much every quality of life category. You think such a highly educated populace has anything in common with Trump's deplorable beyond skin color?

How much is a house in Norway?

How much are groceries?

How much more is a car in Norway?

What is the effective tax rate?

Yes, they have great social services, but housing, food, clothing, cars all cost considerably more than here.

Also, there are also more ethnic Norwegians living in the United States than in Norway!

And yet! They are ranked as the happies country in the world. Despite the high price of living there! Huh. Maybe there’s more to happiness than lower taxes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

Check out the price of a gallon of milk. Check out the price of a house...

Check out the price of health care.

Heck I’d gladly pay more for a gallon of milk for this kind of life- sounds wonderful.

https://www.thenation.com/article/after-i-lived-in-norway-america-felt-backward-heres-why/

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It's easier to pay more for a gallon of milk when your health care is free, your university is free, and you get a healthy retirement pension.

Trumpers abhor everything Norway stands for, except its whiteness.