War with Iran

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Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


I agree, but Trump seems to have a different goal.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


It ahs been barely 24 hours. There is no winning or losing at this juncture.


Of course there is, unless one is being absurdly pedantic.

Decapitating the regime (confirmed) and substantially degrading their force projection and defensive capabilities (apparently) = winning.

Doesn’t mean that it’s “over”, but it is winning.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


DP...the bigger point is...do you actually think it will turn out like this?


No. I’ve consistently said that I oppose this action (bc Trump, bc long term risks, bc Constitution, etc.).

But it’s done. And I find it revolting that people here are actually rooting for failure, which would be bad for both the US and the Iranian people.

Also politically unwise, since if the average American independent read half the crap on here, they’d pick up their pitchforks and torches. They might not like Trump, but they hate traitors more.

Lack of decency and patriotism is the cancer of the far left and it’s on full display in this thread.



No one is "rooting for failure" - but let's be real, we saw what happened in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan. It isn't realistic to suggest lobbing a few bombs and taking out the head, when there are millions of troops and leadership ready to carry the mantle, is going to get the job done. And we know this administration is totally inept, ergo...


Are you kidding?

There are dozens upon dozens of posts here rooting for failure and/or actively spreading rumors of Iranian successes.

What exactly do you suppose is the purpose of those posts?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


DP...the bigger point is...do you actually think it will turn out like this?


No. I’ve consistently said that I oppose this action (bc Trump, bc long term risks, bc Constitution, etc.).

But it’s done. And I find it revolting that people here are actually rooting for failure, which would be bad for both the US and the Iranian people.

Also politically unwise, since if the average American independent read half the crap on here, they’d pick up their pitchforks and torches. They might not like Trump, but they hate traitors more.

Lack of decency and patriotism is the cancer of the far left and it’s on full display in this thread.



No one is "rooting for failure" - but let's be real, we saw what happened in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan. It isn't realistic to suggest lobbing a few bombs and taking out the head, when there are millions of troops and leadership ready to carry the mantle, is going to get the job done. And we know this administration is totally inept, ergo...


Are you kidding?

There are dozens upon dozens of posts here rooting for failure and/or actively spreading rumors of Iranian successes.

What exactly do you suppose is the purpose of those posts?
Agreed, DCUM is all in on supporting Iranian Mullahs and the Republican Guard. They love them and all of they represent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


It ahs been barely 24 hours. There is no winning or losing at this juncture.


Of course there is, unless one is being absurdly pedantic.

Decapitating the regime (confirmed) and substantially degrading their force projection and defensive capabilities (apparently) = winning.

Doesn’t mean that it’s “over”, but it is winning.


DP. Where did you hear or read that the regime has been decapitated and that it has been confirmed? That’s not what I’ve been reading and I read a broad range of sources.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


DP...the bigger point is...do you actually think it will turn out like this?


No. I’ve consistently said that I oppose this action (bc Trump, bc long term risks, bc Constitution, etc.).

But it’s done. And I find it revolting that people here are actually rooting for failure, which would be bad for both the US and the Iranian people.

Also politically unwise, since if the average American independent read half the crap on here, they’d pick up their pitchforks and torches. They might not like Trump, but they hate traitors more.

Lack of decency and patriotism is the cancer of the far left and it’s on full display in this thread.



No one is "rooting for failure" - but let's be real, we saw what happened in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan. It isn't realistic to suggest lobbing a few bombs and taking out the head, when there are millions of troops and leadership ready to carry the mantle, is going to get the job done. And we know this administration is totally inept, ergo...


Are you kidding?

There are dozens upon dozens of posts here rooting for failure and/or actively spreading rumors of Iranian successes.

What exactly do you suppose is the purpose of those posts?
Agreed, DCUM is all in on supporting Iranian Mullahs and the Republican Guard. They love them and all of they represent.


Shouldn’t you be over on the Mamdani thread doing your work there?
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Yes, no doubt the Iranian diaspora is overjoyed.


Isn't a lot of the diaspora from the families who were tight with the Shah? The ones who would like the crown prince back?

Kinds of like white Russians (displaces countesses and such) after the Russian Revolution and fascists in South America.


Yes, exactly.


Just like the plantation owners who left Cuba with all the ill-gotten gains they had accumulated before the Castro regime was able to get to them. Their hatred of “Communist Cuba” for breaking up their slave trade is legendary.

Take a trip out west to Beverly Hills or the wealthier enclaves in the San Fernando Valley of California (or Toronto, Canada if you can’t bear a long flight) to see what these poor, “freedom-loving” Iranian “refugees” were “left with” after they fled Iran in the early 1980s.


My god. You truly have no shame.


Who needs shame when the truth is on their side?


“Their”? Ok sock puppet.

Talking sh*t about Iranian immigrants to the US bc you hate the US? Shameful.


There’s no sock puppeting. As for Iranian immigrants, I know plenty. Plenty.

Let’s just say that nearly all of them benefited tremendously from the corrupt Shah that was installed by MY government (yeah, I’m free to criticize the actions of MY government - at least, last I checked).

So of course many of them are gleeful to see us stick it to the regime that interrupted their gravy train.

The well-adjusted (normal?) ones are saddened by the loss of life and passage of time (that cannot be recovered) over the past nearly 50 years, and few are viewing the U.S. (again, MY country) as heroes acting out of a deep well of benevolence for the Iranian people. They know the score.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


I agree, but Trump seems to have a different goal.



Tbh, there are many worse potential outcomes. And many better. But I’ll take a defanged but stable Iran over a failed state or civil war all day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


It ahs been barely 24 hours. There is no winning or losing at this juncture.


Of course there is, unless one is being absurdly pedantic.

Decapitating the regime (confirmed) and substantially degrading their force projection and defensive capabilities (apparently) = winning.

Doesn’t mean that it’s “over”, but it is winning.


DP. Where did you hear or read that the regime has been decapitated and that it has been confirmed? That’s not what I’ve been reading and I read a broad range of sources.


NY Times, BBC, Guardian, WaPo, Economist, etc.

Suggest expanding your reading list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


DP...the bigger point is...do you actually think it will turn out like this?


No. I’ve consistently said that I oppose this action (bc Trump, bc long term risks, bc Constitution, etc.).

But it’s done. And I find it revolting that people here are actually rooting for failure, which would be bad for both the US and the Iranian people.

Also politically unwise, since if the average American independent read half the crap on here, they’d pick up their pitchforks and torches. They might not like Trump, but they hate traitors more.

Lack of decency and patriotism is the cancer of the far left and it’s on full display in this thread.



No one is "rooting for failure" - but let's be real, we saw what happened in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan. It isn't realistic to suggest lobbing a few bombs and taking out the head, when there are millions of troops and leadership ready to carry the mantle, is going to get the job done. And we know this administration is totally inept, ergo...


Are you kidding?

There are dozens upon dozens of posts here rooting for failure and/or actively spreading rumors of Iranian successes.

What exactly do you suppose is the purpose of those posts?
Agreed, DCUM is all in on supporting Iranian Mullahs and the Republican Guard. They love them and all of they represent.


Shouldn’t you be over on the Mamdani thread doing your work there?
No, not a NYer and don’t give a sh*t what happens there. They get what they voted for.

But, DCUM is definitely pro-Mullah!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


I agree, but Trump seems to have a different goal.



Tbh, there are many worse potential outcomes. And many better. But I’ll take a defanged but stable Iran over a failed state or civil war all day.


It’s not “defanged” or “stable.” That’s not how things work IRL, as nice as it would be.
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Yes, no doubt the Iranian diaspora is overjoyed.


Isn't a lot of the diaspora from the families who were tight with the Shah? The ones who would like the crown prince back?

Kinds of like white Russians (displaces countesses and such) after the Russian Revolution and fascists in South America.


Yes, exactly.


Just like the plantation owners who left Cuba with all the ill-gotten gains they had accumulated before the Castro regime was able to get to them. Their hatred of “Communist Cuba” for breaking up their slave trade is legendary.

Take a trip out west to Beverly Hills or the wealthier enclaves in the San Fernando Valley of California (or Toronto, Canada if you can’t bear a long flight) to see what these poor, “freedom-loving” Iranian “refugees” were “left with” after they fled Iran in the early 1980s.


My god. You truly have no shame.


Who needs shame when the truth is on their side?


“Their”? Ok sock puppet.

Talking sh*t about Iranian immigrants to the US bc you hate the US? Shameful.


There’s no sock puppeting. As for Iranian immigrants, I know plenty. Plenty.

Let’s just say that nearly all of them benefited tremendously from the corrupt Shah that was installed by MY government (yeah, I’m free to criticize the actions of MY government - at least, last I checked).

So of course many of them are gleeful to see us stick it to the regime that interrupted their gravy train.

The well-adjusted (normal?) ones are saddened by the loss of life and passage of time (that cannot be recovered) over the past nearly 50 years, and few are viewing the U.S. (again, MY country) as heroes acting out of a deep well of benevolence for the Iranian people. They know the score.


What BS. Start by looking up the median age of people of Iranian descent in the US. You’ll find that your claims literally impossible.

Second, it takes a real bag of feces to hate America so much that you also hate (and denigrate) a bunch of refugees and their descendants who hope to see their country liberated from a tyrannical regime.

You’re bloody awful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


It ahs been barely 24 hours. There is no winning or losing at this juncture.


Of course there is, unless one is being absurdly pedantic.

Decapitating the regime (confirmed) and substantially degrading their force projection and defensive capabilities (apparently) = winning.

Doesn’t mean that it’s “over”, but it is winning.


DP. Where did you hear or read that the regime has been decapitated and that it has been confirmed? That’s not what I’ve been reading and I read a broad range of sources.


NY Times, BBC, Guardian, WaPo, Economist, etc.

Suggest expanding your reading list.


I read those and more. Do you have any specific cites?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


Define “success” in this case. Does it look like Venezuela or something different?


Success (at this point) = regime deposed, minimal civilian casualties or US military casualties, and a stable regime pit in place that allows the people of Iran the freedom, dignity and prosperity they deserve.

You disagree?


I agree, but Trump seems to have a different goal.



Tbh, there are many worse potential outcomes. And many better. But I’ll take a defanged but stable Iran over a failed state or civil war all day.


It’s not “defanged” or “stable.” That’s not how things work IRL, as nice as it would be.


Are you constitutionally incapable of comprehending the written word?

No one said it *is* defanged and stable. Rather the point was that even the limited and *imperfect* goals expressed by Trump are not the worst possible outcome, if achieved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow DCUM MAGA sure is freaked out about how unpopular this warmongering is.


Looks to me more like DCUM America haters are freaked out bc the US isn’t losing a war.

And FWIW, I’m opposed to this action. But since it’s a fait accompli, I’m sure as hell hoping it succeeds.

You and the “Death to America” crowd apparently feel otherwise.


It ahs been barely 24 hours. There is no winning or losing at this juncture.


Of course there is, unless one is being absurdly pedantic.

Decapitating the regime (confirmed) and substantially degrading their force projection and defensive capabilities (apparently) = winning.

Doesn’t mean that it’s “over”, but it is winning.

Reminds me of dubya with his giant “mission accomplished” banner. You people are delusional.
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