King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

There's no other group of parents who think their situation will be worse if the KAA turns into a regular neighborhood HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A TJ2 would just water down the prestige of TJ1. You take the western geniuses out of TJ1 and fill seats with less qualified students. No offense, but Fairfax county just doesn’t have that many qualified kids. And if kids are moving here specifically for that, they can move closer to TJ1.

It’s pretty disingenuous to say that the county doesn’t have enough qualified kids.

There are strong STEM opportunities all over the county.

I don't think they acquired this site just so they could humor more parents who need to believe their kids are special magnet snowflakes.

There you go again, getting all hostile. This time going after Fairfax students. Shame on you.

Try arguing on the merits, like your friend did. It’s more convincing, and perhaps you can convince Dunne and Frisch that they should reverse their approach and make it a neighborhood school, not a magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

There's no other group of parents who think their situation will be worse if the KAA turns into a regular neighborhood HS.

There are plenty who think the situation would be better if their kids could go to a TJ 2.0 nearby. Much less time in the car for the county’s western geniuses.

You’re just trying to offer up your opinion as fact, and it’s not convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

There's no other group of parents who think their situation will be worse if the KAA turns into a regular neighborhood HS.

That's not true. For example, there are Westfield parents who think the school will decline if it loses Floris and McNair students to the new school, South Lakes parents who think that school will decline if it loses Fox Mill and/or the South Lakes portions of Floris and Crossfield to the new school, and Centreville parents who anticipate that their kids may end up rezoned to Westfield and have a longer commute.

The decision is whether on a net basis a new school benefits kids by allowing more kids to attend a school near their home and provides kids with greater opportunities by downsizing some of the mega-schools in western Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A TJ2 would just water down the prestige of TJ1. You take the western geniuses out of TJ1 and fill seats with less qualified students. No offense, but Fairfax county just doesn’t have that many qualified kids. And if kids are moving here specifically for that, they can move closer to TJ1.

It’s pretty disingenuous to say that the county doesn’t have enough qualified kids.

The latest published SAT scores show otherwise. TJ has an average over 200 points higher, at 1518, than 2nd place Langley with 1302. Steep drop off after that for the rest of the county. If the western half of FCPS truly had so many TJ-competitive kids being left out of TJ, then the average scores for Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, and Woodson would be higher but they simply aren't.

Are there qualified kids left out? Yes, but maybe only a couple hundred at most, not enough to fill even a small second high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A TJ2 would just water down the prestige of TJ1. You take the western geniuses out of TJ1 and fill seats with less qualified students. No offense, but Fairfax county just doesn’t have that many qualified kids. And if kids are moving here specifically for that, they can move closer to TJ1.

It’s pretty disingenuous to say that the county doesn’t have enough qualified kids.

The latest published SAT scores show otherwise. TJ has an average over 200 points higher, at 1518, than 2nd place Langley with 1302. Steep drop off after that for the rest of the county. If the western half of FCPS truly had so many TJ-competitive kids being left out of TJ, then the average scores for Oakton, Chantilly, Madison, and Woodson would be higher but they simply aren't.

Are there qualified kids left out? Yes, but maybe only a couple hundred at most, not enough to fill even a small second high school.

You’re talking averages, so your logic/analysis doesn’t work.

Like claiming there are no millionaires in our country because the average amount of savings per household is $100,000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A TJ2 would just water down the prestige of TJ1. You take the western geniuses out of TJ1 and fill seats with less qualified students. No offense, but Fairfax county just doesn’t have that many qualified kids. And if kids are moving here specifically for that, they can move closer to TJ1.

They should move TJ then to the middle of the County.

If they could restart the entire county, yes. Then they could put schools in strategic locations and not have any split feeders. But they can’t. And TJ is full of super fancy labs.

Know what other location has super fancy labs? KAA.

Yes! According to the website they have two labs: ceramics and robotics

and, TJ?Specialized Research Laboratories
"We make sure student research plays an essential role in their experience at TJ. Graduation requirements include the completion of an original engineering or experimental research project. We have eight stand-alone labs (Astronomy and Astrophysics, Biotechnology and Life Sciences, Chemical Analysis and Nanochemistry, Computer Systems, Engineering, Mobile and Web, Neuroscience, Oceanography and Geophysical Systems, Quantum Physics and Optics) along with an integrated engineering lab that includes five disciplines (Automation and Robotics, Engineering Design, Microelectronics, Prototyping, Energy System, and Engineering Materials)."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

There's no other group of parents who think their situation will be worse if the KAA turns into a regular neighborhood HS.

There are plenty who think the situation would be better if their kids could go to a TJ 2.0 nearby. Much less time in the car for the county’s western geniuses.

You’re just trying to offer up your opinion as fact, and it’s not convincing.

TJ is a state Governor's School that gets supplemental funding from the state. No reason to think the state wants a second STEM Governor's School in NoVa, much less in the same county, when there is already a regional Governor's School.

Further, the people who'd send their kids to such a school if it existed wouldn't call their kids "the county's western geniuses." You're clearly not one of them.

You just want to throw sand in the gears of a new HS at KAA that would serve the surrounding areas. It's become increasingly obvious what your motives are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

I can't tell if those who oppose a new neighborhood HS at the KAA site are:

1. People who really want a "TJ West" or "Kyle McDaniel Aviation Academy HS";

2. Langley posters who don't want to be the only ones left standing to fill empty seats at Herndon;

3. People who don't want to pay taxes to support public schools; or

4. Trolls who just like to make those who stand to benefit from a new school insecure.

If I can't tell, I'm betting you can't either, so shame on you for saying it's #2 when it could be ### 1, 3, 4 or something else.

With the amount of gaslighting, I'm voting for #4.
I don't believe for a minutes that it is #1--which is the current angle from the troll.

The personal attacks also make me think it is #4. Most of those defending the neighborhood school don't seem to be attacking personally.

I do think there is a smattering of #2 and #3.

I do not think it is the Nextdoor person because her posts on Nextdoor are extremely long and tedious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

I can't tell if those who oppose a new neighborhood HS at the KAA site are:

1. People who really want a "TJ West" or "Kyle McDaniel Aviation Academy HS";

2. Langley posters who don't want to be the only ones left standing to fill empty seats at Herndon;

3. People who don't want to pay taxes to support public schools; or

4. Trolls who just like to make those who stand to benefit from a new school insecure.

If I can't tell, I'm betting you can't either, so shame on you for saying it's #2 when it could be ### 1, 3, 4 or something else.

With the amount of gaslighting, I'm voting for #4.
I don't believe for a minutes that it is #1--which is the current angle from the troll.

The personal attacks also make me think it is #4. Most of those defending the neighborhood school don't seem to be attacking personally.

I do think there is a smattering of #2 and #3.

I do not think it is the Nextdoor person because her posts on Nextdoor are extremely long and tedious.

Look, you can argue all you want for a neighborhood school, but you shouldn’t lie and say that those of us who want a magnet school in western Fairfax are somehow personally attacking you. You or your friend have called me and other posters “idiots.” Your faux outrage is showing.

Anyway, try sticking to the merits. We’ve heard you say that there are capacity issues. Much of that was hyperbole, but at least it was an attempt. Other than that all you’ve said is that students in western Fairfax are too dumb for a tj-like school or tried to dismiss the Frisch and Dunne magnet-consideration as false even though we’ve all seen the article.

[Anonymous]

Look, you can argue all you want for a neighborhood school, but you shouldn’t lie and say that those of us who want a magnet school in western Fairfax are somehow personally attacking you. You or your friend have called me and other posters “idiots.” Your faux outrage is showing.

Anyway, try sticking to the merits. We’ve heard you say that there are capacity issues. Much of that was hyperbole, but at least it was an attempt. Other than that all you’ve said is that students in western Fairfax are too dumb for a tj-like school or tried to dismiss the Frisch and Dunne magnet-consideration as false even though we’ve all seen the article.

Not hyperbole on the capacity numbers.

A couple of SB members speculated about a possible magnet. And, several members have addressed the need for relief in the western area--including the member who represents the site and three schools that serve her district students (all which have capacity issues).

I certainly have not disparaged FCPS students--and, if another poster did, that is unfortunate.

But, you--or your friend--have called people "selfish" for wanting a school that is close by. That does lead one to suspect that you have no problems sending your kids on a very long bus ride......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

I can't tell if those who oppose a new neighborhood HS at the KAA site are:

1. People who really want a "TJ West" or "Kyle McDaniel Aviation Academy HS";

2. Langley posters who don't want to be the only ones left standing to fill empty seats at Herndon;

3. People who don't want to pay taxes to support public schools; or

4. Trolls who just like to make those who stand to benefit from a new school insecure.

If I can't tell, I'm betting you can't either, so shame on you for saying it's #2 when it could be ### 1, 3, 4 or something else.

With the amount of gaslighting, I'm voting for #4.
I don't believe for a minutes that it is #1--which is the current angle from the troll.

The personal attacks also make me think it is #4. Most of those defending the neighborhood school don't seem to be attacking personally.

I do think there is a smattering of #2 and #3.

I do not think it is the Nextdoor person because her posts on Nextdoor are extremely long and tedious.

Who is the "Nextdoor person"? Can you link to some of her posts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is nervous. SB knows attempting to do anything but a regular public HS would kill their reelection chances.

Just reached out. Negated your advocacy. Next time, don’t be a jerk.

Also, as previously discussed, helping an entire half of the county would be way more popular than having us all pay $150 million to help just 5% of residents. So, your comment about reelection chances is not compelling at all.

Your friend who was discussing capacity earlier in this thread is way more convincing than you. Maybe take a page from her playbook and cut the name calling and whining.

I'm sure the school board member will ignore your histrionics. They know a psycho when they see one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the nasty anti-new school trolls are nervous Herndon parents who don't want to be zoned out of Langley?

I can't tell if those who oppose a new neighborhood HS at the KAA site are:

1. People who really want a "TJ West" or "Kyle McDaniel Aviation Academy HS";

2. Langley posters who don't want to be the only ones left standing to fill empty seats at Herndon;

3. People who don't want to pay taxes to support public schools; or

4. Trolls who just like to make those who stand to benefit from a new school insecure.

If I can't tell, I'm betting you can't either, so shame on you for saying it's #2 when it could be ### 1, 3, 4 or something else.

With the amount of gaslighting, I'm voting for #4.
I don't believe for a minutes that it is #1--which is the current angle from the troll.

The personal attacks also make me think it is #4. Most of those defending the neighborhood school don't seem to be attacking personally.

I do think there is a smattering of #2 and #3.

I do not think it is the Nextdoor person because her posts on Nextdoor are extremely long and tedious.

Look, you can argue all you want for a neighborhood school, but you shouldn’t lie and say that those of us who want a magnet school in western Fairfax are somehow personally attacking you. You or your friend have called me and other posters “idiots.” Your faux outrage is showing.

Anyway, try sticking to the merits. We’ve heard you say that there are capacity issues. Much of that was hyperbole, but at least it was an attempt. Other than that all you’ve said is that students in western Fairfax are too dumb for a tj-like school or tried to dismiss the Frisch and Dunne magnet-consideration as false even though we’ve all seen the article.

I would love to see a magnet school for the arts in Fairfax County, what a great idea PP!! That's what you're talking about, right? Because why would we duplicate what the county already has? If we're doing another magnet school, I think a school for the arts would be amazing. What a great idea!! Kudos to you, I'm going to email my school board member about this ASAP!!

[Anonymous]

Just listened to the SB meeting on June 12. I think our magnet person is likely to be disappointed.
It starts around 2:35. Dunne presented the motion. Dixit weighed in--it is her district. Apparently, she and Dunne worked together on it. Frisch brought up Sully kids at Oakton. Lady addressed overcrowding at Chantilly.

Only three people did not vote in favor.