Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the swiftie level in this thread is astronomical. At best, Taylor and Travis are in a relationship but are playing it up because of how they know y’all will react. He admitted on his podcast that he knew she was going to add a line in the song for him. His exaggerated reaction was part of the show.

No he said he knew about the line (eg she had joked/sang it in private) but was shocked she actually sang it at the concert.

A couple of the blind sites have said it was actually way too much for him and he's already thinking of how to make an exit that won't get him stalked and threatened by the mega Taytay fans. She doesn't need to try so hard.

Ooh interested in reading these blind items, an you link?

PP is making it up. Lots of cray-cray people posting on this thread.

Nope!
Lots of "cray-cray" people for sure, but I think you're confused about who they are.

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Why do people have to be rude to those of us simply having a little fun? The world is hard right now- how does it harm you if we find joy in other people’s happiness, to the point that you have to fling insults? I’ll never understand it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people have to be rude to those of us simply having a little fun? The world is hard right now- how does it harm you if we find joy in other people’s happiness, to the point that you have to fling insults? I’ll never understand it.

Agree, PP!

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Anonymous wrote:Man, the swiftie level in this thread is astronomical. At best, Taylor and Travis are in a relationship but are playing it up because of how they know y’all will react. He admitted on his podcast that he knew she was going to add a line in the song for him. His exaggerated reaction was part of the show.

No he said he knew about the line (eg she had joked/sang it in private) but was shocked she actually sang it at the concert.

A couple of the blind sites have said it was actually way too much for him and he's already thinking of how to make an exit that won't get him stalked and threatened by the mega Taytay fans. She doesn't need to try so hard.

Deux says the opposite. Not blinds from sources.

What does Deux say?

They are all in and will be engaged next year. They both want to start a family soon.

Deux also said she was married to Joe Alwyn.

No, she said, there was a commitment ceremony during Covid in England, and as of yesterday still stands by that!

DP. That’s what she backtracked to. She initially said they were married.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm bummed the families won't meet tomorrow at the KC/PHL game with Taylor's show being rescheduled to tomorrow night.

How old are you? 12?

Why are you such a grouch?

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Thanks to this thread I'm listening to her song "coney island" feat The National for the first time. So good!!

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

Totally agree. She was WAY too good for Joe. He wanted to dim her light. Please.

I respect Dolly Parton so much for acknowledging that her husband didn’t want the star/famous life. Her light wasn’t dimmed by anyone, she made her way on her won. I would think, assuming Taylor has all the qualities her fans ascribe to her, she would be able to do the same. Why are you defining her by her man?

What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. It’s well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not.

DP. It kind of cuts both ways though. Joe seemed invested in Taylor the person and less so into the machine behind her. Travis is a reality tv wannabe who is perhaps more interested in the PR Machine than the woman. Neither is really enough for her to settle down with.

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Travis had no interest in reality tv. He’s on record that he made bad decisions his rookie year, was broke, and needed the money.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor definitely wants kids, and probably soon. However, she needs to realize that Travis is about 30 pounds away from looking like his brother Jason, who looks like a scary troll doll. They are basically clones of each other, except one is relatively fit and the other one very overweight. She needs to pick someone better. She's a billionaire after all, and probably doesn't want her kid's father being some jock who had a reality show. He's basically like Federline but slightly more likeable, but not really.

Pretty much. Dumb genetics. And he’s ugly. If you saw him on the street he looks like an ugly big cop or plumber. No offense. Most of her other boyfriends were very attractive and creative intellectual types with a brain.

You guys crack me up. Maybe someday you'll have more experience with men. But take it from me, tall, fit, agile, athletic men are the best lays. Combined with Travis' abundant charm, good humor, self confidence and obvious infatuation with her, Taylor is having the time of her life.

I hope, for your sake, you understand this one day.

The best lays are slim runners. Largest D’s and incredible endurance. I’m old and have seen it all.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis had no interest in reality tv. He’s on record that he made bad decisions his rookie year, was broke, and needed the money.

Lol. He was and is an attention craving low class dumb jock.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

Totally agree. She was WAY too good for Joe. He wanted to dim her light. Please.

I respect Dolly Parton so much for acknowledging that her husband didn’t want the star/famous life. Her light wasn’t dimmed by anyone, she made her way on her won. I would think, assuming Taylor has all the qualities her fans ascribe to her, she would be able to do the same. Why are you defining her by her man?

What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. Its well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not.

I’m curious: I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, so I don’t really have a perspective on her music. Do you think she’ll have a lifelong career — if she wants one? That 20 or 30 years from now, her fans — either current or new — will still be excited to listen to her music?

Dp- not a swiftie, but that is an obvious yes. She is doing a GREATEST HITS tour. Right now. In her prime. She is 33? Or there abouts and she has been dominant since the aughts..
She’s in the Michael Jackson, Madonna, level of stardom. She’s a legend and she’s not 35.
I’m not sure how I feel about her music. I don’t think it’s for me, but that’s irrelevant. She’s made it. She will have different levels of success, but she’s with us till she’s gone.
Oh wait… just googled. 2026 is 20 years since her first hit… she’ll be 37?
20 years dominating and not even 40. Tina Turner ( RIP QUEEN) was in her 40’s when she made her big solo come back. It’s (Taylor’s) just an insane journey of extreme longevity for a career that treats artists as one use disposals. Crazy.

These days, all the young kids start out that way: the Disney channel started all these artists off really young (Timberlake, Miley cyrus, Cristina, Britney etc) so they could grab the tween/teen kids and their parents money. That way when the artists go on to adulthood, the commercial money making machine is already in place. Her longevity has little to do with her brilliance and everything to do with 1. Her stable parents and 2. Marketing and commercialization of her product.

Yeah this is a weak comparison. No one you’ve listed has gotten close to her level of success. They’ve all had their moments but not sustained like TS. Not as many awards. Not as many sales. Not the same level public interest. Just not comparable.
She could fizzle out in a couple of years. Do you think that’s actually likely?
Really?
She wasn’t a Disney or Nickelodeon star. Does she have good parents? Seemingly so. But you think her marketing was just so much better than everyone else? If it was marketing they all would be doing it. At some point you have to concede it’s her. At some point you have to give her credit.

Both things can be true.

She strategizes how to gain new audiences. Britney and Timberlake probably didn’t do much of that.

Taylor strategically partners with bands (National, the 1975, Haim, for example) and other bands of different genres and I suspect part of that is to draw in new audiences and part of that (like with newer artists like Ice Spice) is for PR.

Yes, her marketing is way better than any other artist.

Examples:

—She uses “you,” so it always sounds like she is talking to one person. “I saw the videos of you camping out for a spot. Thank you for doing that. I love you.”

—She released the SAME album with FOUR different covers to maximize revenue. Buy all four and you can make a clock.

—She releases tracks that you can only buy a Target.

—She partners with singers and musicians to bring in new audiences.

Kendrick Lamar
Ice Spice
The National (audiences is dads of Swifties)
Haim

—She had a show Midnights Mayhem with Me on TikTok to share one track title per night with fans.

The list goes on.

Meanwhile, Britney dances with knives and Justin is associated with abortion and ripping off Janet Jackson’s shirt at a Super Bowl.

You can’t be a good marketer if you don’t have educated and sane family members to get you through early stardom.

Taylor had an eating disorder and her family probably helped her though it. Without that support, she easily could have not made it.

A lot of talented people fizzle out due to making big mistakes, having a breakdown, or having to spend energy dealing with trauma from crazy family members.

You can’t thrive for long if you are dealing with all that.

So basically you are saying any artist can do what Taylor does if they are super talented, keep it together mentally and don't let fame and money go their head, work incredibly hard and stay committed, be talented and hard working enough to attract the best teams to help put their natural instincts forward and be strategic about it, and have the ability to geniunely connect with fans year after year.

It's super easy, got it.

My first sentence of just five words describes my point. My take is you don't comprehend thinking that is not black and white.

And you're basically saying you can't express yourself well, so you use formulaic ways of writing like this --> "So basically blah, blah super easy, got it."

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

Totally agree. She was WAY too good for Joe. He wanted to dim her light. Please.

I respect Dolly Parton so much for acknowledging that her husband didn’t want the star/famous life. Her light wasn’t dimmed by anyone, she made her way on her won. I would think, assuming Taylor has all the qualities her fans ascribe to her, she would be able to do the same. Why are you defining her by her man?

What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. Its well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not.

I’m curious: I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, so I don’t really have a perspective on her music. Do you think she’ll have a lifelong career — if she wants one? That 20 or 30 years from now, her fans — either current or new — will still be excited to listen to her music?

Dp- not a swiftie, but that is an obvious yes. She is doing a GREATEST HITS tour. Right now. In her prime. She is 33? Or there abouts and she has been dominant since the aughts..
She’s in the Michael Jackson, Madonna, level of stardom. She’s a legend and she’s not 35.
I’m not sure how I feel about her music. I don’t think it’s for me, but that’s irrelevant. She’s made it. She will have different levels of success, but she’s with us till she’s gone.
Oh wait… just googled. 2026 is 20 years since her first hit… she’ll be 37?
20 years dominating and not even 40. Tina Turner ( RIP QUEEN) was in her 40’s when she made her big solo come back. It’s (Taylor’s) just an insane journey of extreme longevity for a career that treats artists as one use disposals. Crazy.

These days, all the young kids start out that way: the Disney channel started all these artists off really young (Timberlake, Miley cyrus, Cristina, Britney etc) so they could grab the tween/teen kids and their parents money. That way when the artists go on to adulthood, the commercial money making machine is already in place. Her longevity has little to do with her brilliance and everything to do with 1. Her stable parents and 2. Marketing and commercialization of her product.

Yeah this is a weak comparison. No one you’ve listed has gotten close to her level of success. They’ve all had their moments but not sustained like TS. Not as many awards. Not as many sales. Not the same level public interest. Just not comparable.
She could fizzle out in a couple of years. Do you think that’s actually likely?
Really?
She wasn’t a Disney or Nickelodeon star. Does she have good parents? Seemingly so. But you think her marketing was just so much better than everyone else? If it was marketing they all would be doing it. At some point you have to concede it’s her. At some point you have to give her credit.

Both things can be true.

She strategizes how to gain new audiences. Britney and Timberlake probably didn’t do much of that.

Taylor strategically partners with bands (National, the 1975, Haim, for example) and other bands of different genres and I suspect part of that is to draw in new audiences and part of that (like with newer artists like Ice Spice) is for PR.

Yes, her marketing is way better than any other artist.

Examples:

—She uses “you,” so it always sounds like she is talking to one person. “I saw the videos of you camping out for a spot. Thank you for doing that. I love you.”

—She released the SAME album with FOUR different covers to maximize revenue. Buy all four and you can make a clock.

—She releases tracks that you can only buy a Target.

—She partners with singers and musicians to bring in new audiences.

Kendrick Lamar
Ice Spice
The National (audiences is dads of Swifties)
Haim

—She had a show Midnights Mayhem with Me on TikTok to share one track title per night with fans.

The list goes on.

Meanwhile, Britney dances with knives and Justin is associated with abortion and ripping off Janet Jackson’s shirt at a Super Bowl.

You can’t be a good marketer if you don’t have educated and sane family members to get you through early stardom.

Taylor had an eating disorder and her family probably helped her though it. Without that support, she easily could have not made it.

A lot of talented people fizzle out due to making big mistakes, having a breakdown, or having to spend energy dealing with trauma from crazy family members.

You can’t thrive for long if you are dealing with all that.

So basically you are saying any artist can do what Taylor does if they are super talented, keep it together mentally and don't let fame and money go their head, work incredibly hard and stay committed, be talented and hard working enough to attract the best teams to help put their natural instincts forward and be strategic about it, and have the ability to geniunely connect with fans year after year.

It's super easy, got it.

She isn’t genuinely connecting with you. (She doesn’t really know you.) and yeah to the rest.

A bunch of it is luck and having the right people. There is a reason why so many of scooters artists did well and it wasn’t all talent. He is horrible but he did get results. Her dad was smart to sign her with him from a career standpoint. (Maybe not mental health wise?)

+1

Her dad is smart and knew what he was doing. He couldn't have known Scooter would be so awful. But he had investments with Scooter so I admire the dad's business acumen.

Can you imagine other pop stars with parents who could guide them half as well in their early days? Scooter was awful yet his stars attained massive success. They only needed just so much talent to start making that happen. No one will talk about this but I have wondered if TS would have gone as far so fast without the toxic Scooter Braun.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

Totally agree. She was WAY too good for Joe. He wanted to dim her light. Please.

I respect Dolly Parton so much for acknowledging that her husband didn’t want the star/famous life. Her light wasn’t dimmed by anyone, she made her way on her won. I would think, assuming Taylor has all the qualities her fans ascribe to her, she would be able to do the same. Why are you defining her by her man?

What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. Its well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not.

I’m curious: I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, so I don’t really have a perspective on her music. Do you think she’ll have a lifelong career — if she wants one? That 20 or 30 years from now, her fans — either current or new — will still be excited to listen to her music?

Dp- not a swiftie, but that is an obvious yes. She is doing a GREATEST HITS tour. Right now. In her prime. She is 33? Or there abouts and she has been dominant since the aughts..
She’s in the Michael Jackson, Madonna, level of stardom. She’s a legend and she’s not 35.
I’m not sure how I feel about her music. I don’t think it’s for me, but that’s irrelevant. She’s made it. She will have different levels of success, but she’s with us till she’s gone.
Oh wait… just googled. 2026 is 20 years since her first hit… she’ll be 37?
20 years dominating and not even 40. Tina Turner ( RIP QUEEN) was in her 40’s when she made her big solo come back. It’s (Taylor’s) just an insane journey of extreme longevity for a career that treats artists as one use disposals. Crazy.

These days, all the young kids start out that way: the Disney channel started all these artists off really young (Timberlake, Miley cyrus, Cristina, Britney etc) so they could grab the tween/teen kids and their parents money. That way when the artists go on to adulthood, the commercial money making machine is already in place. Her longevity has little to do with her brilliance and everything to do with 1. Her stable parents and 2. Marketing and commercialization of her product.

Yeah this is a weak comparison. No one you’ve listed has gotten close to her level of success. They’ve all had their moments but not sustained like TS. Not as many awards. Not as many sales. Not the same level public interest. Just not comparable.
She could fizzle out in a couple of years. Do you think that’s actually likely?
Really?
She wasn’t a Disney or Nickelodeon star. Does she have good parents? Seemingly so. But you think her marketing was just so much better than everyone else? If it was marketing they all would be doing it. At some point you have to concede it’s her. At some point you have to give her credit.

Both things can be true.

She strategizes how to gain new audiences. Britney and Timberlake probably didn’t do much of that.

Taylor strategically partners with bands (National, the 1975, Haim, for example) and other bands of different genres and I suspect part of that is to draw in new audiences and part of that (like with newer artists like Ice Spice) is for PR.

Yes, her marketing is way better than any other artist.

Examples:

—She uses “you,” so it always sounds like she is talking to one person. “I saw the videos of you camping out for a spot. Thank you for doing that. I love you.”

—She released the SAME album with FOUR different covers to maximize revenue. Buy all four and you can make a clock.

—She releases tracks that you can only buy a Target.

—She partners with singers and musicians to bring in new audiences.

Kendrick Lamar
Ice Spice
The National (audiences is dads of Swifties)
Haim

—She had a show Midnights Mayhem with Me on TikTok to share one track title per night with fans.

The list goes on.

Meanwhile, Britney dances with knives and Justin is associated with abortion and ripping off Janet Jackson’s shirt at a Super Bowl.

You can’t be a good marketer if you don’t have educated and sane family members to get you through early stardom.

Taylor had an eating disorder and her family probably helped her though it. Without that support, she easily could have not made it.

A lot of talented people fizzle out due to making big mistakes, having a breakdown, or having to spend energy dealing with trauma from crazy family members.

You can’t thrive for long if you are dealing with all that.

So basically you are saying any artist can do what Taylor does if they are super talented, keep it together mentally and don't let fame and money go their head, work incredibly hard and stay committed, be talented and hard working enough to attract the best teams to help put their natural instincts forward and be strategic about it, and have the ability to geniunely connect with fans year after year.

It's super easy, got it.

She isn’t genuinely connecting with you. (She doesn’t really know you.) and yeah to the rest.

A bunch of it is luck and having the right people. There is a reason why so many of scooters artists did well and it wasn’t all talent. He is horrible but he did get results. Her dad was smart to sign her with him from a career standpoint. (Maybe not mental health wise?)

Cut the condescending crap. I wasn't talking about me.

It's actually okay for people to listen to an artist's music and feel connected, or go to a live concert and feel like you are connecting to something larger.

But go ahead and twist yourself into a pretzel trying to downplay someone else's success or talents.

sure but fans get that from all
Music. iit is music that builds community: any music Teacher or preacher can tell you that.

That doesn’t make u connected to the musician on insta or that musician stalks you unless you are marketing taylor swift. She capitalized on that.

I don't think the Angry Poster is going to get it. They just want to rage.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

Totally agree. She was WAY too good for Joe. He wanted to dim her light. Please.

I respect Dolly Parton so much for acknowledging that her husband didn’t want the star/famous life. Her light wasn’t dimmed by anyone, she made her way on her won. I would think, assuming Taylor has all the qualities her fans ascribe to her, she would be able to do the same. Why are you defining her by her man?

What? No one is defining her "by her man". Taylor fans want her to have a man who supports her. Its well known that Joe was not supportive of her going on this new tour and all the hoopla that went with it. He loved what they had when she was hiding out after the Kanye debacle and during COVID. That's different than Dolly's husband who is very supportive but stays behind the scenes - a man can do both of those things. Taylor is NEVER going to live a normal life. She needs a man who can handle that- whether he wants to be in the spotlight or not.

I’m curious: I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, so I don’t really have a perspective on her music. Do you think she’ll have a lifelong career — if she wants one? That 20 or 30 years from now, her fans — either current or new — will still be excited to listen to her music?

Dp- not a swiftie, but that is an obvious yes. She is doing a GREATEST HITS tour. Right now. In her prime. She is 33? Or there abouts and she has been dominant since the aughts..
She’s in the Michael Jackson, Madonna, level of stardom. She’s a legend and she’s not 35.
I’m not sure how I feel about her music. I don’t think it’s for me, but that’s irrelevant. She’s made it. She will have different levels of success, but she’s with us till she’s gone.
Oh wait… just googled. 2026 is 20 years since her first hit… she’ll be 37?
20 years dominating and not even 40. Tina Turner ( RIP QUEEN) was in her 40’s when she made her big solo come back. It’s (Taylor’s) just an insane journey of extreme longevity for a career that treats artists as one use disposals. Crazy.

These days, all the young kids start out that way: the Disney channel started all these artists off really young (Timberlake, Miley cyrus, Cristina, Britney etc) so they could grab the tween/teen kids and their parents money. That way when the artists go on to adulthood, the commercial money making machine is already in place. Her longevity has little to do with her brilliance and everything to do with 1. Her stable parents and 2. Marketing and commercialization of her product.

Yeah this is a weak comparison. No one you’ve listed has gotten close to her level of success. They’ve all had their moments but not sustained like TS. Not as many awards. Not as many sales. Not the same level public interest. Just not comparable.
She could fizzle out in a couple of years. Do you think that’s actually likely?
Really?
She wasn’t a Disney or Nickelodeon star. Does she have good parents? Seemingly so. But you think her marketing was just so much better than everyone else? If it was marketing they all would be doing it. At some point you have to concede it’s her. At some point you have to give her credit.

Both things can be true.

She strategizes how to gain new audiences. Britney and Timberlake probably didn’t do much of that.

Taylor strategically partners with bands (National, the 1975, Haim, for example) and other bands of different genres and I suspect part of that is to draw in new audiences and part of that (like with newer artists like Ice Spice) is for PR.

Yes, her marketing is way better than any other artist.

Examples:

—She uses “you,” so it always sounds like she is talking to one person. “I saw the videos of you camping out for a spot. Thank you for doing that. I love you.”

—She released the SAME album with FOUR different covers to maximize revenue. Buy all four and you can make a clock.

—She releases tracks that you can only buy a Target.

—She partners with singers and musicians to bring in new audiences.

Kendrick Lamar
Ice Spice
The National (audiences is dads of Swifties)
Haim

—She had a show Midnights Mayhem with Me on TikTok to share one track title per night with fans.

The list goes on.

Meanwhile, Britney dances with knives and Justin is associated with abortion and ripping off Janet Jackson’s shirt at a Super Bowl.

You can’t be a good marketer if you don’t have educated and sane family members to get you through early stardom.

Taylor had an eating disorder and her family probably helped her though it. Without that support, she easily could have not made it.

A lot of talented people fizzle out due to making big mistakes, having a breakdown, or having to spend energy dealing with trauma from crazy family members.

You can’t thrive for long if you are dealing with all that.

So we're posting giant lists illustrating Swift's greed and ability to cultivate parasocial relationships, while cherry picking two unfavorable things about peer artists, as if there are none to be found about Swift. Surely we don't want to go there?

Can you describe how collaborating with other artists means Taylor Swift is greedy? I'm very curious about your take on this and why you are saying that.

And can you describe how having good marketing means someone is greedy?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis had no interest in reality tv. He’s on record that he made bad decisions his rookie year, was broke, and needed the money.

It's a good story but do I believe it? I don't know.