ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That Kyle Wilson guy on Instagram just mentioned civil war between MLSN/ECNL.

MLSN/GA staying BY ECNL going School year.

MLSN/2 will stay birth year and most of their lower affiliated leagues will be SY.

No where did he mention GA was staying BY

More Cold War than civil war as the two leagues were never together…

That being said, MLSN2 is 100% SY, so this dude is way out of the loop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That Kyle Wilson guy on Instagram just mentioned civil war between MLSN/ECNL.

MLSN/GA staying BY ECNL going School year.

MLSN/2 will stay birth year and most of their lower affiliated leagues will be SY.

No where did he mention GA was staying BY

More Cold War than civil war as the two leagues were never together…

That being said, MLSN2 is 100% SY, so this dude is way out of the loop.

My club director MLSN2 said they have not given official rules out but mentioned
MLSN2 probably SY MLSN1 BY but clubs can bioband their players if they get moved up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That Kyle Wilson guy on Instagram just mentioned civil war between MLSN/ECNL.

MLSN/GA staying BY ECNL going School year.

MLSN/2 will stay birth year and most of their lower affiliated leagues will be SY.

No where did he mention GA was staying BY

He did not. They probably assumed given the team up between MLSN/GA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where are we with GA announcing SY vs BY? We have some decisions to make about clubs and this will help guide our decision! Hopefully they announce soon. I can’t imagine them staying BY

According to the commissioner, there will be a formal announcement in May. Probably around the same time they announce new league formations, etc.

If this is true (source?), I would expect GA to go SY. There is no need to formally announce if you are staying status quo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where are we with GA announcing SY vs BY? We have some decisions to make about clubs and this will help guide our decision! Hopefully they announce soon. I can’t imagine them staying BY

According to the commissioner, there will be a formal announcement in May. Probably around the same time they announce new league formations, etc.

If this is true (source?), I would expect GA to go SY. There is no need to formally announce if you are staying status quo.

Source was directly from the commissioner. They know people are asking so I wouldn’t say just because they will announce something means they will go SY. I think it will be a general info release on new teams added, leagues, and what they plan on doing moving forward. I’m leaning towards them staying BY but who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

[Anonymous]

BY tinfoil-hats now looking to Kyle Wilson for salvation…seems clear that all of youth soccer will be SY including GA and MLSN…

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

Most countries also use BY for school grade ages, so when countries that use BY for school grades use BY for sports leagues, that country’s age group for sports aligns with its SY (since BY and SY are the same in that country).

So most countries that use BY do so because in that country BY=SY. This has been established many pages ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

Most countries also use BY for school grade ages, so when countries that use BY for school grades use BY for sports leagues, that country’s age group for sports aligns with its SY (since BY and SY are the same in that country).

So most countries that use BY do so because in that country BY=SY. This has been established many pages ago.

The false propaganda was posted many pages ago. It wasn’t established.

Simple fact check- eligibility for U-17 FIFA World Cup is someone born on or after January 1st of that given year. Zero considerations for the plethora of formulas and stats posted here. Jan 1 - Dec 31 is the same standard used in every sport for youths in international sports.

[Anonymous]

I heard GA still hadn't decided officially BUT that most GA clubs want to and do now encourage their teams to play HS (except for a few that have never changed since the start of GA). If that's the case, why would they not switch to SY?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are we with GA announcing SY vs BY? We have some decisions to make about clubs and this will help guide our decision! Hopefully they announce soon. I can’t imagine them staying BY

According to the commissioner, there will be a formal announcement in May. Probably around the same time they announce new league formations, etc.

If this is true (source?), I would expect GA to go SY. There is no need to formally announce if you are staying status quo.

100% spot on take.

Ironically the logic from two weeks ago that the subset of SY lunes were using when people pointed out that no announcement was needed if staying BY, will be weaponozed by same subset to attack non-crazy SY parents and the few BY fan parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I get a voucher please!

Single dad with 100k elementary school habit!

Me too, 100k + for 2 kids. 🤦🏻‍♀️ because “vaunted” public schools here actually suck.

So school + soccer + driver = me slaving away for some club to not have their act together until 2026

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

Most countries also use BY for school grade ages, so when countries that use BY for school grades use BY for sports leagues, that country’s age group for sports aligns with its SY (since BY and SY are the same in that country).

So most countries that use BY do so because in that country BY=SY. This has been established many pages ago.

The false propaganda was posted many pages ago. It wasn’t established.

Simple fact check- eligibility for U-17 FIFA World Cup is someone born on or after January 1st of that given year. Zero considerations for the plethora of formulas and stats posted here. Jan 1 - Dec 31 is the same standard used in every sport for youths in international sports.

I'm surprised this needs to be explained, but USSF creates special teams for the FIFA youth World Cups. Club teams don't play in those tournaments. In this thread, you'll see people refer to them as "youth national teams" or "YNT." They will continue to be arranged by BY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

Most countries also use BY for school grade ages, so when countries that use BY for school grades use BY for sports leagues, that country’s age group for sports aligns with its SY (since BY and SY are the same in that country).

So most countries that use BY do so because in that country BY=SY. This has been established many pages ago.

The false propaganda was posted many pages ago. It wasn’t established.

Simple fact check- eligibility for U-17 FIFA World Cup is someone born on or after January 1st of that given year. Zero considerations for the plethora of formulas and stats posted here. Jan 1 - Dec 31 is the same standard used in every sport for youths in international sports.

I'm surprised this needs to be explained, but USSF creates special teams for the FIFA youth World Cups. Club teams don't play in those tournaments. In this thread, you'll see people refer to them as "youth national teams" or "YNT." They will continue to be arranged by BY.

We are trying to get to 1000! Please don’t give straight forward explanations. The BY crowd was holding on to some justification for BY for Youth Soccer and we need them to keep saying the same thing for 500 pages

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't feel like reading through the 870+ pages to see if this was previously asked. Most other countries use BY. FIFA has U-15 tournaments, U-17 and U-20 world cups. They all align with BY. Why are we (the US) trying to be different (again)?

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole again. Most other countries define their SY by BY.

False claim. “Most other countries” do use calendar year / BY regardless of school year/grade. A simple google search would tell you that. They actually specify which countries use SY and it’s a small minority.

But our country insists on using inches, pounds, Fahrenheit, 110 volt, and “soccer”. So it seems consistent to be different.

Different poster, but I think you missed the point that a vast majority actually do use their SY. In their country SY=BY. So they aren’t having our misalignment issues.

I didn’t miss the point. I contended that the majority of countries around the world’s use of BY are not aligned with their SY. Now you’re furthering that lie with “vast majority”. The countries that use SY, plus the countries that align SY in labeling BY, still doesn’t add up to the majority. Far from “vast majority”, they are a minority. Jan 1- Dec 31 of given year is the standard of age grouping in “vast majority” of countries for every sport.

But, I’m just a concerned citizen that is spitting into the wind as the decision was already made. The rest of this thread is made up of parents trying to justify and rationalize why they want their kid to play against younger kids.

Most countries also use BY for school grade ages, so when countries that use BY for school grades use BY for sports leagues, that country’s age group for sports aligns with its SY (since BY and SY are the same in that country).

So most countries that use BY do so because in that country BY=SY. This has been established many pages ago.

The false propaganda was posted many pages ago. It wasn’t established.

Simple fact check- eligibility for U-17 FIFA World Cup is someone born on or after January 1st of that given year. Zero considerations for the plethora of formulas and stats posted here. Jan 1 - Dec 31 is the same standard used in every sport for youths in international sports.

I'm surprised this needs to be explained, but USSF creates special teams for the FIFA youth World Cups. Club teams don't play in those tournaments. In this thread, you'll see people refer to them as "youth national teams" or "YNT." They will continue to be arranged by BY.

We are trying to get to 1000! Please don’t give straight forward explanations. The BY crowd was holding on to some justification for BY for Youth Soccer and we need them to keep saying the same thing for 500 pages

I have a formal complaint, the above post and any others like it should not count for 1000. There may be 50 of them here so the true magic number may be 1050. Better make it 1100 to be on the safe side