UVA-Mcintire

[Anonymous]

If your daughter or son is at UVA, do they plan to apply to Mcintire? Or would love to hear from someone whose child stayed with economics as a major and what job they have now. Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your daughter or son is at UVA, do they plan to apply to Mcintire? Or would love to hear from someone whose child stayed with economics as a major and what job they have now. Thank you!

Not recent. A buddy got an Economics degree from UVa. Got a job with a bank someplace in VA. Hard worker and has done very well.

[Anonymous]

Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

[Anonymous]

My neighbor's daughter didn't get into McIntire so she majored in economics. Graduated in May and works on Wall Street, although I don't know the exact job.

[Anonymous]

What’s Mcintire?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

Yeah, take the general education away and make it vocational. Pure job training. So much for the educated citizenry! We want cogs in the wheels!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s Mcintire?

UVA's undergraduate Commerce school (aka: business school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

Yeah, take the general education away and make it vocational. Pure job training. So much for the educated citizenry! We want cogs in the wheels!

Nope.

Other undergrad schools at UVa (examples: Arch, Engr) still have Gen Ed requirements.

The details vary a little bit from school to school (example: engr students may take a foreign language, but are not required to do so).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

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That’s a step backwards. All of the better schools avoid direct admit because they don’t need direct admit to fill their classes - they want the best, seasonal Ed applicants after they’ve experienced college. UVA dropped direct admit precisely for this reason just a few years back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

Yeah, take the general education away and make it vocational. Pure job training. So much for the educated citizenry! We want cogs in the wheels!

Nope.

Other undergrad schools at UVa (examples: Arch, Engr) still have Gen Ed requirements.

The details vary a little bit from school to school (example: engr students may take a foreign language, but are not required to do so).

Uh. the pp was being sarcastic to the PP’s suggest that UVA dumb down its business program by returning to direct admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your daughter or son is at UVA, do they plan to apply to Mcintire? Or would love to hear from someone whose child stayed with economics as a major and what job they have now. Thank you!

Not quite what you are seeking, but my kid was a UVA Econ major and studied under Ken Elzinga who wrote her LOCs to Oxford for grad work in Econ. She’s going to a T3 law school to study law & Econ and perhaps become a professor. She had many friends in McIntire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

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That’s a step backwards. All of the better schools avoid direct admit because they don’t need direct admit to fill their classes - they want the best, seasonal Ed applicants after they’ve experienced college. UVA dropped direct admit precisely for this reason just a few years back.

This is just NOT true. All of the best undergrad business programs have direct admit - Penn/Wharton, Michigan/Ross, Berkley/Haas, Cornell/Dyson, USC/Marshall, Indiana/Kelley, etc. UVA/McIntire is a complete outlier in this regard.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

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That’s a step backwards. All of the better schools avoid direct admit because they don’t need direct admit to fill their classes - they want the best, seasonal Ed applicants after they’ve experienced college. UVA dropped direct admit precisely for this reason just a few years back.

This is just NOT true. All of the best undergrad business programs have direct admit - Penn/Wharton, Michigan/Ross, Berkley/Haas, Cornell/Dyson, USC/Marshall, Indiana/Kelley, etc. UVA/McIntire is a complete outlier in this regard.

Disagree. Undergraduate business schools often lack direct admission to manage high demand, maintain high-quality cohorts, and ensure student success through prerequisite performance. By requiring admission after one or two years, schools can evaluate college-level academic performance and maturity, rather than just high school performance, and filter applicants to meet capacity constraints.
Key reasons for requiring a separate application include:

High Demand and Capacity Limitations: Many popular, top-tier programs (e.g., UC Berkeley's Haas School of Business) receive more applicants than they can accommodate, requiring a secondary screening process.

Academic Performance Evaluation: Universities often want to see that students can handle college-level coursework—particularly in challenging subjects like math, economics, or introductory business courses—before granting admission.

Ensuring Student Maturity and Fit: A two-step process allows students to explore other majors during their freshman year, ensuring those who apply to the business school are truly committed.

Competition and Prestige: Schools may use this structure to ensure their program remains elite and high-achieving, requiring a high GPA to gain entry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your daughter or son is at UVA, do they plan to apply to Mcintire? Or would love to hear from someone whose child stayed with economics as a major and what job they have now. Thank you!

Not quite what you are seeking, but my kid was a UVA Econ major and studied under Ken Elzinga who wrote her LOCs to Oxford for grad work in Econ. She’s going to a T3 law school to study law & Econ and perhaps become a professor. She had many friends in McIntire.

Write Dr Elzinga before you go and ask to visit him on campus. He did for my kid. You’ll never meet a kinder man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside: UVa should take the next step and make McIntire a direct admission program.

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That’s a step backwards. All of the better schools avoid direct admit because they don’t need direct admit to fill their classes - they want the best, seasonal Ed applicants after they’ve experienced college. UVA dropped direct admit precisely for this reason just a few years back.

This is just NOT true. All of the best undergrad business programs have direct admit - Penn/Wharton, Michigan/Ross, Berkley/Haas, Cornell/Dyson, USC/Marshall, Indiana/Kelley, etc. UVA/McIntire is a complete outlier in this regard.

Disagree. Undergraduate business schools often lack direct admission to manage high demand, maintain high-quality cohorts, and ensure student success through prerequisite performance. By requiring admission after one or two years, schools can evaluate college-level academic performance and maturity, rather than just high school performance, and filter applicants to meet capacity constraints.
Key reasons for requiring a separate application include:

High Demand and Capacity Limitations: Many popular, top-tier programs (e.g., UC Berkeley's Haas School of Business) receive more applicants than they can accommodate, requiring a secondary screening process.

Academic Performance Evaluation: Universities often want to see that students can handle college-level coursework—particularly in challenging subjects like math, economics, or introductory business courses—before granting admission.

Ensuring Student Maturity and Fit: A two-step process allows students to explore other majors during their freshman year, ensuring those who apply to the business school are truly committed.

Competition and Prestige: Schools may use this structure to ensure their program remains elite and high-achieving, requiring a high GPA to gain entry.

I do not know what you are quoting here but my senior just applied to a whole of bunch of colleges with undergraduate business schools. Almost all of them, including all of the top ones (except UVA), required her to apply directly to the undergraduate business program. She was told it is almost impossible to transfer internally from arts & sciences to the business school once she is these schools. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.