Make-up Days

Anonymous
When do you think we’ll know the exact snow make-up days (and if they’re half-day)? I hope soon (but probably not).
Anonymous
Likely depends on what MSDE says. This storm affected the whole state, not just MCPS
Anonymous
I really hope the State waives some of these days, but in the more recent past, they have not done so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When do you think we’ll know the exact snow make-up days (and if they’re half-day)? I hope soon (but probably not).


Probably April 16th, when it's too late to use either of the days within the school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Likely depends on what MSDE says. This storm affected the whole state, not just MCPS


They need to use make-up days. At least three of them:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/regulations/maryland/COMAR-13A-02-01-04

D. Application for Waiver.

(1) In the required written application for waiver of school days, it shall be demonstrated that:
(a) The local school system developed a calendar which included days to be used to make up days lost. Depending upon past experience, this number could range from 3 to 10 days throughout the State. The local school system calendar shall have identified those potential make-up days which could have been used as student days when calendar modification becomes necessary; that is, make-up days, student vacation days, etc.
(b) The local school system has modified its calendar by scheduling school on the make-up days provided in the original calendar and by extending the school year 3 days beyond the previously scheduled closing date.

(2) In considering this application, the State Board of Education may waive:
(a) The final day needed to complete the 180-day schedule if that day falls on a Monday;
(b) Additional days beyond those specified in §D(1)(b) of this regulation that would have to be added to the calendar to complete a 180-day schedule.
Anonymous
These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?


Schools can use the days in the year. There are three days we can use.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?


Schools can use the days in the year. There are three days we can use.


The local school system has modified its calendar by scheduling school on the make-up days provided in the original calendar and by extending the school year 3 days beyond the previously scheduled closing date.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?


Schools can use the days in the year. There are three days we can use.


Sure, but the state won't waive any days unless 3 days have already been added to the end of the school year
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?


Schools can use the days in the year. There are three days we can use.


Sure, but the state won't waive any days unless 3 days have already been added to the end of the school year


That's a pedantic reading. They clearly just mean you have to add 3 days that weren't scheduled. So, the one built-in extra day doesn't count, but the three they add can be whenever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:These are the days listed on the calendar for potential makeup

March 20 (they will avoid because its Eid and they'll cry equity)
April 15
June 18
June 22 - 26 (which is likely what they'll go with... but no one is going to attend particularly since June 19 is Juneteenth and a day off no matter what)

MD also granted waiver for President's Day to be a makeup day potentially.

Ideally I think MCPS should take up MD's offer to do President's Day and also take Lunar New Year so we make up the days on Feb 16 & 17, March 20, and April 15. But it's not going to happen and our kids are all going to just miss out.


The regulation seems to actually put the districts at a disadvantage if they use days within the school year. I agree that making up the days you mentioned is ideal, but it seems that MCPS couldn't qualify for a waiver unless they use three days at the end of the school year.

School was set to end on Wednesday, 6/17.
They could add Thursday, 6/18. (1st additional day)
Friday, 6/19 is Juneteenth, so they can't add that.
They could add Monday, 6/22. (2nd additional day)
They could add Tuesday, 6/23. (3rd additional day).
+This seems to be the requirement to then apply for a waiver of additional days.

Ideally, people should plea with MSDE to allow schools to make up a day on Juneteenth. Then the third day beyond the regular closing date would be a Monday, and the state's language indicates that they can waive the last day if it falls on a Monday.

The requirements are really ridiculous, when clearly it is more productive to make up the days during the year. Why would the state not incentivize districts to make up the days during the school year when attendance can be maximized and students can benefit from them more?


It also puts counties with snow days built in at a disadvantage since you wouldn't necessarily need to add three additional days if we had 3 snow days built into the calendar, so no waiver. The requirement of three days at the end of the school year undermines good planning
Anonymous
President's day should be their first choice. AP classes need as many of the makeups as possible to be early.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I really hope the State waives some of these days, but in the more recent past, they have not done so.


but other counties in md smartly used virtual learning
Anonymous
We will start summer camps on 6/22, so sorry, our ES kids will not attend.
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