Taylor's Feb Rec for Crown Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

MCPS likely planned on transplanting Wootton kids to Crown when it broke ground. This was an idea considered formally by MCPS in November 2024. Why did MCPS wait over a year to tell Wootton that it was on the chopping block? The reason is that MCPS didn’t want to give enough time for community advocacy to mobilize - it didn’t want to go through the whole Woodward mess again.

It's worse than waiting to tell Wootton, they spent millions of taxpayer dollars on a bait and switch "Boundary Study" that they immediately discarded with this B.S. "Option H" in the eleventh hour. This has such a stench of corruption.

see above re: timeline. Same amount of time was given after H (and E-G for that matter) before the next "unveiling"--in this case the Sup's rec as had been given to other options. It just happened to be the last round (I get that the 11th hour feel comes from this) so it feels worse but is not actually, less time. in hindsight I am sure he wishes that he had unveiled this as not the last set of options just to get away from this "11th hour" narrative.

I don't care about "amount of time given". The previous options took community responses into account and were incorporating feedback. Then they flipped the table and threw everything they have been publicly talking about for months. Let's see what the legal challenges turn up. If there were internal options that were floated internally and not disclosed to the community, I want to know who knew and why it was withheld. Let's see what the lawsuit turns up.

You realize that the recommendation DID incorporate feedback, that's why FRES is at Crown--they were not included on the original Option H. I'm sorry they didn't take YOUR feedback but they definitely did take feedback. There was an alternate option H map that got leaked by a BOE member so I know you know there were other ideas out there but I also don't think they need to share EVERY IDEA EVER CONSIDERED, do they? They need to share they ones they are truly considering.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

MCPS likely planned on transplanting Wootton kids to Crown when it broke ground. This was an idea considered formally by MCPS in November 2024. Why did MCPS wait over a year to tell Wootton that it was on the chopping block? The reason is that MCPS didn’t want to give enough time for community advocacy to mobilize - it didn’t want to go through the whole Woodward mess again.

It's worse than waiting to tell Wootton, they spent millions of taxpayer dollars on a bait and switch "Boundary Study" that they immediately discarded with this B.S. "Option H" in the eleventh hour. This has such a stench of corruption.

see above re: timeline. Same amount of time was given after H (and E-G for that matter) before the next "unveiling"--in this case the Sup's rec as had been given to other options. It just happened to be the last round (I get that the 11th hour feel comes from this) so it feels worse but is not actually, less time. in hindsight I am sure he wishes that he had unveiled this as not the last set of options just to get away from this "11th hour" narrative.

I don't care about "amount of time given". The previous options took community responses into account and were incorporating feedback. Then they flipped the table and threw everything they have been publicly talking about for months. Let's see what the legal challenges turn up. If there were internal options that were floated internally and not disclosed to the community, I want to know who knew and why it was withheld. Let's see what the lawsuit turns up.

The lawsuit is not going to get to the discovery phase if it’s premised on the hope that there might be internal emails somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

MCPS likely planned on transplanting Wootton kids to Crown when it broke ground. This was an idea considered formally by MCPS in November 2024. Why did MCPS wait over a year to tell Wootton that it was on the chopping block? The reason is that MCPS didn’t want to give enough time for community advocacy to mobilize - it didn’t want to go through the whole Woodward mess again.

It's worse than waiting to tell Wootton, they spent millions of taxpayer dollars on a bait and switch "Boundary Study" that they immediately discarded with this B.S. "Option H" in the eleventh hour. This has such a stench of corruption.

see above re: timeline. Same amount of time was given after H (and E-G for that matter) before the next "unveiling"--in this case the Sup's rec as had been given to other options. It just happened to be the last round (I get that the 11th hour feel comes from this) so it feels worse but is not actually, less time. in hindsight I am sure he wishes that he had unveiled this as not the last set of options just to get away from this "11th hour" narrative.

I don't care about "amount of time given". The previous options took community responses into account and were incorporating feedback. Then they flipped the table and threw everything they have been publicly talking about for months. Let's see what the legal challenges turn up. If there were internal options that were floated internally and not disclosed to the community, I want to know who knew and why it was withheld. Let's see what the lawsuit turns up.

You realize that the recommendation DID incorporate feedback, that's why FRES is at Crown--they were not included on the original Option H. I'm sorry they didn't take YOUR feedback but they definitely did take feedback. There was an alternate option H map that got leaked by a BOE member so I know you know there were other ideas out there but I also don't think they need to share EVERY IDEA EVER CONSIDERED, do they? They need to share they ones they are truly considering.

And don't forget they also moved Cold Spring to Churchill, which was feedback they received from the Wootton cluster that they felt was (and should be) actionable.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

MCPS likely planned on transplanting Wootton kids to Crown when it broke ground. This was an idea considered formally by MCPS in November 2024. Why did MCPS wait over a year to tell Wootton that it was on the chopping block? The reason is that MCPS didn’t want to give enough time for community advocacy to mobilize - it didn’t want to go through the whole Woodward mess again.

It's worse than waiting to tell Wootton, they spent millions of taxpayer dollars on a bait and switch "Boundary Study" that they immediately discarded with this B.S. "Option H" in the eleventh hour. This has such a stench of corruption.

see above re: timeline. Same amount of time was given after H (and E-G for that matter) before the next "unveiling"--in this case the Sup's rec as had been given to other options. It just happened to be the last round (I get that the 11th hour feel comes from this) so it feels worse but is not actually, less time. in hindsight I am sure he wishes that he had unveiled this as not the last set of options just to get away from this "11th hour" narrative.

I don't care about "amount of time given". The previous options took community responses into account and were incorporating feedback. Then they flipped the table and threw everything they have been publicly talking about for months. Let's see what the legal challenges turn up. If there were internal options that were floated internally and not disclosed to the community, I want to know who knew and why it was withheld. Let's see what the lawsuit turns up.

You realize that the recommendation DID incorporate feedback, that's why FRES is at Crown--they were not included on the original Option H. I'm sorry they didn't take YOUR feedback but they definitely did take feedback. There was an alternate option H map that got leaked by a BOE member so I know you know there were other ideas out there but I also don't think they need to share EVERY IDEA EVER CONSIDERED, do they? They need to share they ones they are truly considering.

There was nothing close to a consensus from any feedback that leads to closing a high performing school. That is overwhelmingly unpopular in surveys, in person, by any conceivable metric. I'm sure this is just a little oopsy doopsy and that the corruption that tanked the E.V. bus deal was the only corruption MCPS has recently engaged in.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

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Anonymous wrote:Well that is a new narrative. Throwing more jello at the wall to see what sticks?

I have whiplash from all the different arguments the parkway parents have used. First it was the building in poor condition, then never mind don’t take us from our precious moldy paradise, then AVG and option W, then modified G, then modified H, then the language lawsuit, then Taylor is controlling the weather to plot against us, then four generations of sups have been diabolically against Wootton….and now you’re saying it’s all just been in support of Macgruder???

I need a neck brace….

Good summary.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

Oh my mistake - you could have started raising money earlier. Now I get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

You haven’t explained why Wootton was taken off the CIP in May 2024 if it’s so unsafe. Why would MCPS do that and leave the kids in an unsafe building for over 3 years until Crown opens in fall 2027? Shouldn’t Wootton’s building have been remediated immediately (not the opposite) or condemned and its kids moved to a safe building?

Wootton isn’t unsafe to use as a school. MCPS wants to cover its tail and get kudos by adding an instant academic reputation. Why else would it rename Crown as Wootton?

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

You haven’t explained why Wootton was taken off the CIP in May 2024 if it’s so unsafe. Why would MCPS do that and leave the kids in an unsafe building for over 3 years until Crown opens in fall 2027? Shouldn’t Wootton’s building have been remediated immediately (not the opposite) or condemned and its kids moved to a safe building?

Wootton isn’t unsafe to use as a school. MCPS wants to cover its tail and get kudos by adding an instant academic reputation. Why else would it rename Crown as Wootton?

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

You haven’t explained why Wootton was taken off the CIP in May 2024 if it’s so unsafe. Why would MCPS do that and leave the kids in an unsafe building for over 3 years until Crown opens in fall 2027? Shouldn’t Wootton’s building have been remediated immediately (not the opposite) or condemned and its kids moved to a safe building?

Wootton isn’t unsafe to use as a school. MCPS wants to cover its tail and get kudos by adding an instant academic reputation. Why else would it rename Crown as Wootton?

Good point! Let’s change the name, please!

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

You haven’t explained why Wootton was taken off the CIP in May 2024 if it’s so unsafe. Why would MCPS do that and leave the kids in an unsafe building for over 3 years until Crown opens in fall 2027? Shouldn’t Wootton’s building have been remediated immediately (not the opposite) or condemned and its kids moved to a safe building?

Wootton isn’t unsafe to use as a school. MCPS wants to cover its tail and get kudos by adding an instant academic reputation. Why else would it rename Crown as Wootton?

Good point! Let’s change the name, please!

I think it should be renamed “North Potomac Memorial High School” since its erection essentially negates the utility of North Potomac as a concept.

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton needs to stop the drama. Wootton families said the building is unsafe. MCPS listened and gave them a new building. Be grateful.

MCPS created the drama. Wootton doesn’t want Crown. Give it to Magruder as a holding school so it can get its badly needed renovation of an even more unsafe building done ASAP. MCPS can always transplant Wootton to Crown later if that’s what enrollment projections really support. What’s the rush?

Some of Wootton doesn't want Crown. Some of Wootton wants out of the unsafe Wootton building and is happy with Crown.

Problem is, we don't really know how the split breaks. Doing so would require a survey, and who has time for that? Survey of Wootton parents' appetite for being relocated should've been done when the Boundary Study was happening all of last year. But oh well, MCPS blew that and instead suprised parents and got to find out in a chaotic, real-time manner, the response to their unanticipated proposal.

Honestly, Wootton's parents' appetite for being relocated isn't really relevant. Boundary changes are always contentious because few people want 'change,' whatever that change is. If they did surveys of parents whose kids are affected the responses would always be "no." MCPS's job isn't to make every parent happy. It's to make hard decisions that are good for the county as a whole and can be sustained for decades. I'm sympathetic to a pp who suggested they could use Crown as a holding school for a few years and postpone the decision to see how demographics work out, but I'm sure one of their priorities is to make a decision now that can be keep things constant for 20 years or so, as predictability and consistency is valuable in its own right.

It would be relevant to gauge the intensity of pushback and ensure the thoroughness and collaboration needed to minimize fighting by communicating directly, fairly and in a manner that allowed for understanding to be developed between the system and the community.

Even if you believe Option H is the right decision, which it might be, the way MCPS dropped it on the Wootton community out of thin air was at best inconsiderate, and at worst, disrespectful.

Inconsiderate and disrespectful are reasons you break up with a guy, not sue a school system.

Right… as if there wouldn’t still be a legal fundraiser going on right now if mcps had been more considerate and respectful but with the same end results. That’s all it would have taken. Sure

You're not grasping the disrespectful part.

Everyone who participated in the Boundary Study knew and understood that the BOE would redrawing which kids and neighborhoods went to which schools. And that the meetings, surveys and testimonies that MCPS held and staff gathered on behalf of the superintendent and the board, were to shape and inform how those boundaries were drawn.

It was NEVER discussed that a scenario on the table was for a school building to be closed and a whole community moved without their input and say. If that was always an option the board and superintendent was willing to consider, then they should have said that from the beginning.

The "disrespect" was in dropping an unpleasant surprise on a community that never knew or understood that was a potential outcome.

The building is being removed from service as YOU PARENTS and the school COMMUNITY said it was unsafe for your kids to be there. Cause - Effect. Everyone is facing changes to their schools and assignments. The difference is they listened to you about the safety and fixed that for you. They aren't fixing other schools in equally bad shape nor giving them a new school.

I'm not a Wootton parent. I belong to a different school community. But it is fair to say that a school closure or removal was NEVER disclosed or discussed as a possible outcome of the Boundary Study by Taylor or the BOE. That was my point. If they were considering that as an option all along, that should have been communicated to everyone from the beginning.